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Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:23 am |
I am so in need of help for my oily, flaky scalp please!!
I have had this problem on and off for ages..
Usually it will go away by itself by simply switching shampoo brands. I find that if I switch to a different brand it solves the problem temporarily but not long after the flakiness will come back...so frustrating !!
Sometimes I will combine regular shampoo with Nizoral SS Scalp Treatment, which was very effective at one time, but now it longer works!!
Lastly I stumbled upon an Aesop store in Spore and the salesgirl convinced me to buy the Dual Scalp Cleansing Shampoo...so I eagerly threw away my Pears shampoo and tried this...convinced that the natural ingr will do good deep cleansing & calming...I so wanted to love this line...
But alas...after 10 daily washing my scalp remains its old flaky, oily self..so I guess thats money down my bathroom drain
(BTW I am not dissing the entire Aesop range as I also bought their toner and mask and are having good results from it!)
Has anyone had similar problem and have successfully found the csolution? Am I allergic to Sulfate? Is this problem common? Should I try a Sulfate-free shampoo and if yes what brand should I try?
Please anyone shed some light as I am getting desperate...TIA... |
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:27 am |
Oh yes...I even tried ACV combined with lemon essential oil for weeks...after reading some good feedback in here...but No Positive Result so far... |
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:02 am |
Hi there
Hi there, your hair is exactly the same type as mine. I discovered Secret Phytologie for dandruff hair - cant remember the exact one, and its AWESOME. The first ingredient is willow bark extract, and youd expect it to be water being a shampoo.
Go through the descriptions onwww.strawberrynet.com and youll find the one im talking about.
Ive really got to shoot..working nights .
HTH
Farouk |
_________________ Newly qualified doc whos potty about skincare! Combination, whitehead-prone skin with a dry cheek and 'o' zone. |
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:42 am |
I use all natural products, so my parameters are a bit different. However, I have found to answer to my itchy/flakey scalp. I use Aubrey Organics Calagula Fern shampoo and it is great! It's worth a try and a trip to the health food store. |
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:35 pm |
I have suffered from the most horrid itchy flakey scalp for years, exacerbated by having to to 2x weekly nit combing in school term times. I have tried everything, but the one thing I have tried that has worked (for the 10 days at any rate) is conditioner only washing.
You have to do it every day to start with, til your scalp stops producing so much sebum as a reaction to being stripped by shampoo, but I am at the stage where I do it every other day now.
You use the cheapest lightest conditioner you can get (ie no silicones) and massage it in like shampoo. Rinse, comb through et viola!)
I cannot believe my hair is no longer flakey and itchy and more to the point, it is really soft!
shite, I sound like a newbie whose just found a new expensive skincare line that works
Oh well, it's up to you if ya wanna try it or not!
Liz |
_________________ my new jewellery website:www.gentle-medusa.com |
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Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:38 pm |
I too have the same problem....itchy and flaky scalp no matter what shampoo I try.....some make it worse or better but nothing works for long!...what worked best for me is ACV. I dumpan ounce of ACV after I have lathered the shampoo and massage a little , leave it on for a couple of minutes and rinse and condition hair( not the scalp).....
Good that conditioner only thing is working for you, guapagirl......It didnt work for me. I tried it 4 years back when my hair were long |
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:24 am |
thanks a lot for sharing all...
mithai..i already tried ACV but may be didnt leave it long enough b4 rinsing. honestly the smell is horrible!! but i can put up with it as long as it really works...maybe give it another chance...m |
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:32 am |
Ive heard/read Emu oil can help. Maybe try mixing a little in your hand with conditioner...to go along with the ACV in your shampoo. |
_________________ ~normal but prone to dryness~slightly sensitive~usually clear~totm breakouts~mid 20s~ |
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:26 am |
thanks all...you are the greatest
i think i will use the conditioner only if the ACV or changing shampoo doesnt work...see my hair is very limp and i never use any conditioner so as not to make it "limper"
Aubrey Organics arent available but I may have seen Phytologie sold somewhere...after seeing the bottle from strawberry.net... |
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:53 am |
oh dear..i just told my husband last week that I finally found THE ONE (i.e Aesop)...which I will use up till finished...
He is bewildered why the shampoo in the bathroom keeps changing forms & colors...
and always making fun of my ACV Hair regimen...some ppl just dont get it |
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:39 am |
mithai wrote: |
Good that conditioner only thing is working for you, guapagirl......It didnt work for me. I tried it 4 years back when my hair were long |
I had tried it before as well with no luck. I think now it was because I was using a really heavy duty conditioner and I didn't do all the scalp massage and brushing.
Now when I wash my hair, I work the conditioner through and massage like I would for shampoo. I also use hotter water except for the final cold rinse.
Liz |
_________________ my new jewellery website:www.gentle-medusa.com |
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Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:07 am |
I suffer terribly from a flakey scalp, I have psoriasis. I too love, love, love conditioner only washing. Really needs to be massaged in, guapa's given the best tips for it. I've also used Cetaphil sensitive cleanser for my scalp instead of shampoo. I was using a beta hydroxy acid for my scalp which really helped with itching but in the long term, didn't eliminate the prob. I'm currently trying several things, Garnier Fructis dandruff shampoo helps a bit but I'm looking for a sulphate free zinc shampoo, if one is even made! If anyone knows of one, please let me know here!
ACV initially helped but not much in the long term either. Good luck, I know it's not an easy problem to deal with. |
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:59 am |
Is that what I have, psoriasis? Is it some form of dndruff? Its not itchy tho, just flakey.
The strange thing is, dandruff shampoo with zinc tend to make it worse, even after 1 application.
I think i'm still going to try ACV and on non-greasy days might even give conditioning-only a try...
also interested to try a real herbal like the ones recommended here...have you tried it Lolli?? |
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:08 am |
Hi Poppy, if you had psoriasis you would probably know. It's not just flakey but scaley and thick patches of skin. This is a fabulous site, you will find a lot of info there. http://www.psoriasis.org/home/
I have tried ACV but it's not a total solution for me. Sometimes it helps with itching but I'm really looking for a stronger solution. I haven't tried Phytologie but am going to look into it.
One thing that has been helping is avoiding skin irritants in my shampoo, which is where not using shampoo to cleanse every couple days comes in. I'm currently using Paula's Choice conditioner for this because it has no scent added. It does have some silicone but it's currently the only unscented conditioner I can find so it will have to do. |
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:33 pm |
Dear Poppy - What you have may actually be seborrheic dermatitis. In babies, it's called Cradle Cap. An oily, flaky scalp is the common characterisitc. It may also affect the eyebrows and other areas of skin, causing red, irritated-looking patches and scaliness. It's thought to be fungal in nature, so be certain to clean your brushes and combs often. My brother has it and when you said Nizoral worked at first and then stopped, it reminded me of his similar experience. For the first month of using the prescription strength, it seemed like a miracle. But suddenly it was no longer effective. Shampoos containing salicylic acid may help you, if zinc and sulphur ingredients haven't so far. I've also read that colloidal silver can be effective.
Good luck -- this is a nagging, persistent problem to deal with. |
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:32 am |
Having looked up both conditions I am almost sure what I have is sebhorrheic dermatitis cause the scalp is oily and seemed to react well to Nizoral for a period of time..
From what I read supposedly I should treat it with actives like zinc, salicylic acid, sulphur etc...also alternatively things like ACV, flaxseed oil, green tea may also ease the condition...
However theres no indication whatsoever that it could be caused by stuff found in regular supermarket shampoo like Sulfate, paraben, petrochemical, silicone etc
so i'm more confused...should I change to a more "organic" product (if my problem is caused by the non-organic buildup) or try to find a more effective "treatment Shampoo" than Nizoral (if my problem is caused by things like oily glands/stress/genetic etc as the website indicates) |
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Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:27 pm |
Dear Poppy - I don't believe that seborrheic dermatitis is caused by any products you may be using. Rather, it's an immune, hormonal, environmental or genetic condition and is often chronic (as in the case of my brother who I care for, and who was born with cerebral palsy).
There are various products available. You know Nizoral doesn't give you sustainable benefits, so you can rule out its active ingredient and work from there, trying the zinc, sulfur, coal tar, salicylic acid, anti-fungal creams, etc. products. If after experimenting with OTC treatments without success, you may want to consult a dermatologist.
If your condition is indeed seborrheic dermatitis, keeping your scalp as clean as possible seems to be part of any treatment program.
My brother's scalp condition requires a lot of my time and attention. He's non-ambulatory so it's not as though he can step into the shower daily, which makes it even more problematic to deal with. I've given up using special shampoos and treatments and just use a no-rinse shampoo normally used for grooming invalids -- it isn't any better or worse than anything else I've tried. |
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Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:13 pm |
april thank you for sharing your brother's condition with me...it must be hard to have this kind of scalp condition and not to be able to step in the shower anytime you feel like it
it does seem to be genetic cos my father has it also...and mine is also linked to my hormones.
I have to wash my hair daily (sometimes twice a day) as it can get v. oily...
have you tried using an organic shampoo for your brother? as long as it doesnt cause any adverse reaction, I am thinking of trying one myself...maybe I should find a product containing the actives (zinc/salicylic acid etc) but without the other harsh ingredients like SLES...
my friend who has the same condition already consulted a hair specialist and spent $$$ to no avail...so that will be my last resort
hope we'll find something that works eventually... |
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