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Azeite
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Joined: 21 Apr 2012
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Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:12 pm  |
I want to start using CP serum (most likely Skin Biology) every morning followed by a AHA exfoliant at night.
...and I want to start using a derma-roller, probably just a .5mm a couple times a week.
But I don't want to start them at the same time! Which one should I use first for say, perhaps a month, until I add the other one to my daily regime?
CP serum or the .5mm derma roller? TIA. |
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Azeite
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Joined: 21 Apr 2012
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:54 am |
Anyone? Should I have posted this to the "Skincare Tools" forum?
The reason I'm asking this question is because it's apparent that CP serum has an initial period of destructive regeneration ("the uglies") as well as the .5mm roller. I don't want to have both of these going on at the same time.. so which one should go first? |
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Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:30 pm |
A 0.5 mm roller should not be used more than once a week. According to Dr. S., an HA serum (without any junk) should be used right after.
You can start with the lowest strength Skinbiology CP product but don't use it right after a rolling session. |
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Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:28 pm |
| Dr. Setterfield's current philosophy is a 0.5mm once every 4 weeks. |
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:03 am |
Yea I've seen those links and was going to comment on that. I've read that those links are outdated and he is now recommending rolling once every 4 weeks with the 0.5mm. But why would they not change their old web info???? Strange.
This is a great thread explaining some of his new rolling ideas. I'd only read the last half of the posts. I do believe I've seen your name as a member there. Fawnie explains it well. Maybe she will chime in.
http://skincare.boards.net/thread/49/dermarolling-skin-needling-pcit
http://www.blushzuidas.nl/bestanden/thuisroller-BLUSH.pdf
I've been rolling for 3 years now. Most of that time using Sarah's advice at owndoc.com. I've only been following Setterfield's 0.5mm once very 4 week protocol for a few months. I actually use a 0.75mm roller cause of thicker skin (man). I personally think anything up to 1.0mm is fine once every 4 weeks.Maybe even longer. I never rolled more than once a month following Sarah's advice. Usually every 6 seeks. I can't say I've noticed much of anything from rolling except for individual scars that have greatly improved form single needles and the roller. My skin looked great before I ever started rolling. I just believe in the science behind it and that it is working behind the scenes. Seems for sure it is not an exact science and that many methods are effective. Even the butcher jobs you see on Youtube I guess.  |
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Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:57 pm |
I got a confirmation from Dr S's team that:
".3 mm daily and the . 5mm once a week
Best use to combo for scars or heavy wrinkles." |
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Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:52 am |
I am learning that there is no one RIGHT way. There are right ways, righter ways and wrong ways. Thankfully lots of right ways.  |
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Esthetician working at a Med-spa. Love the Clarisonic! |
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:11 am |
| Has anyone used the copper peptide and vitamin serums from dermal integrity? I'm thinking of getting one of their rollers and using their products because I read in his book that you should be very careful what you apply afterwards |
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:59 am |
| LizzieG wrote: |
| Has anyone used the copper peptide and vitamin serums from dermal integrity? I'm thinking of getting one of their rollers and using their products because I read in his book that you should be very careful what you apply afterwards |
Yes, I love the rollers & I love the serums. You can ask them to include either a Copper peptide serum or a Vitamin Serum with your roller.
The rollers are much shaper than from owndoc, IMO.
You can also purchase serums to apply afterwards from fawnie. |
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:13 am |
| Thanks Russian sunshine - any recommendations from fawnie for post roll? |
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Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:36 pm |
I use a dermapen weekly and am working into the daily .3 roller Dr. S protocol. I have heard Skin Medica serum is a great option post roll. A friend who has had professional treatments has had it used and speaks highly of the results. Currently I am considering Environ products for post roll as these are intriguing and cutting edge for the technology of rolling.
I tend to use H.A. for a preroll product although I understand that a new rec from Dr. S is to use a baby saline solution (seems like it would be drying). |
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Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:11 pm |
Why would anyone want to roll so much crap into their skin? 
Would it not be better to feed the skin cells with high quality actives without parabens, preservatives and silicones? Both Environ & SkinMedica products are full of junk.
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I use a dermapen weekly and am working into the daily .3 roller Dr. S protocol. I have heard Skin Medica serum is a great option post roll. A friend who has had professional treatments has had it used and speaks highly of the results. Currently I am considering Environ products for post roll as these are intriguing and cutting edge for the technology of rolling.
I tend to use H.A. for a preroll product although I understand that a new rec from Dr. S is to use a baby saline solution (seems like it would be drying). |
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Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:14 pm |
| LizzieG wrote: |
| Thanks Russian sunshine - any recommendations from fawnie for post roll? |
She makes serums specifically for post roll. I believe they are called DERMAL NEEDLING TRIO.
But, IMO, anything she creates can be used post-roll (except the colostrum cream).
From her website:
"We do not use aloe vera, paragons, silicones/dimethicone, heavy waxes, PEGs, carbomers, plastic microbeads, or other harmful ingredients in the serums and creams that you put on your precious skin. Our products are only tested on humans and no artificial colors or fragrances are used." |
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