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annered
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Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:17 pm  |
| Hi! I am new to the forum and think it's a great place.My skin sure needs help. I am 46 and starting perimenopause and everything seems to be wrinkling sagging and losing volume haha. I kid you not - one day everything was fine and then boom - the neck started to go and the forehead wrinkles deepened. I get it we get older and I'm not 25. To be honest I've been fairly luck til now. Any ideas on how to slow this? I honestly look 10 years older in 1 year. Thanks! |
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Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:53 pm |
| I'm right there with you. I'm 52 and since I turned 50 it's been a rapid decline. I swear every day new wrinkles pop up, my thighs and biceps are crepey, my crows feet are extending down my cheek like a pirate, and I even have above the lip lines and have never smoked. It's so depressing. I am considering Estriol cream and wondering if anyone else has used it and how safe it is. Don't know what else to do but cry. |
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:32 pm |
ya, i felt the same way - all of a sudden my skin all over changed- stuff seemed to happen overnight..at about 52 my microcurrent didn't seem to help much at all...
I don't know what estriol cream is (other than something w/ estrogen in it) - i made the choice to go on bio-identical hormones (did a lot of research...i honestly think it's the lack of hormones that gets us sicker than the hormones - as long as they are not synthetic) I do not do static doses - it's rhythmic - and projesterone only 2 weeks out of the month) I put the hormones on the inside of my arms and i thought cool - 2 birds one stone - topical and internal - but the hormones have not helped the inner skin AT ALL - so my guess is if your estriol cream is for wrinkles it probably doesn't work... that said - I do feel fantastic on the hormones - no joint pain, long term bone and heart investment and of course libido - sleep is great, moods great energy high high (especially since the fascia blaster - yikes!! that thing is amazing) anyway - just my two cents and empathy!!
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annered
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Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:59 pm |
I am starting out on a regime of faceworks - primrose oil, seabuckthorn oil, fish oil - no dairy or wheat to see of this will help. Have also decided to try the dermaroller. Going to take some before and afters to see if it makes a difference. The worst part for me so far is my glabellar lines, neck and jowls. Sigh. Oh well  Beauty is far more than your skin thankfully.  |
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Sun May 01, 2016 5:11 am |
Dermarolling is a good start but it does take some time...and patience. I think I saw some results several months after beginning and from time to time now I see certain changes that I have to attribute to that.
I assume you're doing things like Retin A and Vit C serum..these are kind of the basics in looking good.
Sagging and loss of volume is probably the worst factor of aging and the toughest to fight. But things like face exercises and massage are helpful...They can pin point a lot of issues. I also still am a fan of microcurrent. I just use the nuface but will be graduating to the pico or mini Clare in the next year or so. I have some budget restraints which actually give me time to see how things really work.
I didn't think my lightstim was doing a thing at first but after a year or so I have changed my mind and think it is helpful. It's subtle but worth the effort.
Microcurrent and face exercise really helped my neck and lower face area and I was not particularly aggressive. But the improvement has been major.
I'm also working on thickening the skin on the neck and the hands in particular.
If you haven't gotten something like the FasciaBlaster then I really think dry brushing is helpful for all over circulation and keeping the skin tighter...that and keeping active really helps toward looking more youthful I believe. |
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Wed May 04, 2016 4:58 am |
Same thing is happening to me. I started estriol (the weakest form of estrogen; it's bioidentical - human form) a few months ago and was happy with the results, but for some reason in just this past week my eye area and hands have gotten crepey. I'm wondering if taking B12 has depleted other B vitamins, that's the only change I can think of recently.
It's funny how aging seems to come in spurts. A few years ago, over a period of a few months it seems, I started getting vertical nail ridges.
I'm ready to try dermarolling - can't get right around the eyes with it, but it might help a bit and should help my hands.
Tigerlily - where do you purchase your dermarolling supplies? Do you use numbing gel? What sort of disinfectant do you use? |
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Wed May 04, 2016 9:07 pm |
| cd33 wrote: |
Same thing is happening to me. I started estriol (the weakest form of estrogen; it's bioidentical - human form) a few months ago and was happy with the results, but for some reason in just this past week my eye area and hands have gotten crepey. I'm wondering if taking B12 has depleted other B vitamins, that's the only change I can think of recently.
It's funny how aging seems to come in spurts. A few years ago, over a period of a few months it seems, I started getting vertical nail ridges.
I'm ready to try dermarolling - can't get right around the eyes with it, but it might help a bit and should help my hands.
Tigerlily - where do you purchase your dermarolling supplies? Do you use numbing gel? What sort of disinfectant do you use? |
Did the estriol help with your skin...lines and crepiness? |
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Thu May 05, 2016 7:59 am |
| I didn't have much if any crepey-ness before I used estriol. The estriol seemed to help with volume and firmness. Who knows -maybe the estriol caused my sudden crepey-ness - but I doubt it. I think estriol has been used as an anti-aging ingredient in the past. I remember reading my mom's skin cream label around 30 years ago and being icked out by animal placenta as an ingredient. The placenta produces estriol. |
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Thu May 05, 2016 4:42 pm |
I can related to all this! I'm actually in early menopause now due to a procedure . While it can be overwhelming and I haven't figured out the hormone thing yet, I still feel we can look and feel much younger . My thoughts are,we can look way younger but we just have to work harder as we get older . Here are some things I'm trying that have helped( and some I'm just starting but I think are helping .i learned these all from here !
Agressive microneedling - I feel this has made a huge difference .more than anything !
Microcurrent ..this has Helped ..but looks like it's not going to be enough to actually lift the muscles and keep them there ...so I'm going to start cff with the accompying face firmer and the brush
Dry brushing ..I cannot believe something so Simple and cheap Could work . I have only at started this recently but my hands look much better as the skin feels tighter .
Cosmetic needling for product penetration ...this makes everything i use Tingle even if it's a weak product ..so I'm thinking it will increase effectiveness
I am limited now what I can do on my face because I am in a skin care study ..but I experiment on my chest hands ..etc
This is all helping without really knowing what to do about hormone s..I've been on estriol and progesterone for months and I really don't feel any positive effects . I'm trying to do this all DIY because it's expensive to go to someone that specializes in Bhrt
Also there is a book called bio young that talks about supplements and oil for face that help
Sorry for long post! Hope this helps someone . |
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42, starting facial exercise, vip total face machine, sue vit c , retina, had peels, botox, fat injection, very good skin texture but fine lines around eyes |
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Fri May 06, 2016 6:50 am |
| What type of brush do you use for dry brushing? Do you apply anything after? |
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Fri May 06, 2016 8:15 am |
| For me when I hit menopause I aged overnight. My dear hubby was sweet and tried to say it was all in my mind but he even admitted that it was noticeable. I went and had bloodwork done and saw a specialist in Harley Street and started bioidentical hormones (plant based ones) and I felt such a different. My energy perked up, my moods improved, my concentration and focus were better - they near enough saved me as I was in hell before but it really got me thinking that hormones are the key players. I know Suzanne Sommers has written about them in great detail but I think she really has helped to bring information about them out to the public. |
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Fri May 06, 2016 9:35 am |
Cd33,
I got both my face and body brush at beautiful on raw website . The lady Tonya says the bristles need to be hard enough . I'm not sure what they are made of, but I could look it up later
Edited to add, I don,t use anything after but I probably should
TheresaMary,
Thank you for sharing . I most likely need to make this step. Did you see a difference in your skin as well ? |
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42, starting facial exercise, vip total face machine, sue vit c , retina, had peels, botox, fat injection, very good skin texture but fine lines around eyes |
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Mon May 16, 2016 2:12 am |
| Hi there i totally sympathise with you . I am going through the same . I find some days i think I'm looking ok and some days i feel I've aged 10 years. I use the usual stuff have done for years retin a, vitamin c, red light threapy ,microcurrent and the last 4 months face exercise and still the aging happens but i do feel everything is a bit better since the exercise im doing ageless and faceworks . No miracles but it does help. I do feel once the hormones decline it gets so much harder as if we don't have enough to contend with with the horrid physical symptoms. I too have been considering a hormone cream for face a natural one if possible but no luck I'm in uk . Hopefully someone has some info on this . X |
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Mon May 16, 2016 4:08 am |
Not really it was more with my energy levels that's I noticed a difference. I always looked after my skin and worked with the same derm for 30 plus years so it wasn't an issue for me.
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TheresaMary,
Thank you for sharing . I most likely need to make this step. Did you see a difference in your skin as well ? |
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Sat Jul 02, 2016 5:40 pm |
| Hi, has anyone had any improvement in facial sagging from hormone therapy (either topical/oral)? I'm 52, premenopausal with lots of other symptoms but my biggest concern is facial sagging & wrinkles - doing some exercise, microcurrent, LED & topicals ... Thanks! |
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born 1964, some raw & live foods - medium complexion - sinking eye area yet manage to still have bags, loose, sagging upper eyelids, 11s not as bad as my N/L & M/L, microneedling .5 & 1mm, led, massage, Vit C, A, CP very occasionally, HA, EES, DMAE, MATRIXYL |
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ElaineB
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Joined: 19 Dec 2016
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Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:21 am |
| marcia36 wrote: |
| Hi there i totally sympathise with you . I am going through the same . I find some days i think I'm looking ok and some days i feel I've aged 10 years. I use the usual stuff have done for years retin a, vitamin c, red light threapy ,microcurrent and the last 4 months face exercise and still the aging happens but i do feel everything is a bit better since the exercise im doing ageless and faceworks . No miracles but it does help. I do feel once the hormones decline it gets so much harder as if we don't have enough to contend with with the horrid physical symptoms. I too have been considering a hormone cream for face a natural one if possible but no luck I'm in uk . Hopefully someone has some info on this . X |
Phytomone is a nice cream to try: it's developed specially for menopausal skin. I spoke to Jane Atherton, the lady who designed the range & she says Phytomone Pause Hydra Creme works in the deep skin layers. It helps to stop the loss of elasticity, dryness, etc. that happens because of the hormone changes. Rosehip oil (I use Rio Rosa Mosqueta) is brilliant if Phytomone is too expensive. You can use it alone or add a couple of drops to your existing moisturiser. |
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:29 am |
oestrogene is in the body for years, the progesterone level drops ten years before menopauze, thats why we gain weight. read this site. It helped me. I had hormones like femostrone from hospital but stoped because side effects. The bioidentical progesteral is great. for skin libido hair everything.
http://www.progesteronetherapy.com/menopause.html
I read a lot past three years had cancer and after pain in my hips and feet, hands. the progesterone is key, i use morning two drops and evening two drops and the pain is gone, toke me two years to find. Gain weight is getting better after a while. |
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Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:35 am |
My hair never bin so thick by trying this
avocado shake
1/2 avocado
250 milk
cinemon
limonade
blend
drink every day
my hair was thin and now feels great. In three months time it realy works. |
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:09 am |
| Progesterone works wonders but I really doubt that avocados grow thick hair, I used to eat one everyday and I still lost half my hair, progesterone did nothing for it either. It helped my insomnia, thats it. Too much weight gain. |
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47, former sunworshipper, skincare addict, oily T-zone, fair skinned, love Vita A, some hyperpigmentation, microneedler. |
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:13 pm |
You can try using other vitamins like
biotin
B12
Selenium
Zink
vit D
weightgain is terible |
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Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:34 pm |
| I gave up progesterone as i related it to headaches. I did research and found saw palmetto and Maca will help me block my androgens. I have love estrogen and high testosterone. Great for low bodyfat but my hair!! |
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47, former sunworshipper, skincare addict, oily T-zone, fair skinned, love Vita A, some hyperpigmentation, microneedler. |
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Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:35 am |
I take low dose estradial and estrace 2 times weekly. It does help. I had a hysterectomy so don't need to take anything else with it.
Not really anything I have found helps the sagging?
Avocado eaten is good for you and helps keep the skin supple and glowing.
Maca will make you gain weight though, known those who want to add a little junk in the trunk and trying to increase bust size.
I no longer take it after my doctor mentioned that and I noticed a little more cush, but the hubby does and it doesn't affect him like that. |
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Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Fri May 05, 2017 5:40 pm |
I am young 60 and went through meno late. I also had BC 5 years ago and am on aromatase inhibitors which lowers the free estrogen. I still however have not so bad saggy skin (though hair is terrible so if anyone has ideas about that I'd be grateful).
I have been dry brushing for several years and can highly recommend it. The skin under my arms is now less wrinkled and saggy than 5 years ago and I think the circulation increase from dry brushing is important. Get a NATURAL bristle brush that is not too hard. I eat a high good fat, low simple carb diet with very little processed food. For the face I use the dermarollers (have been doing this for over 10 years). I think this has helped as I have very few wrinkles (this is also probably genes because my mother had good skin at 90.
I do use and make many face creams and essential oils my current fav is Frankincense (it has reduced the brown spots on my face and hands). |
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Fri May 19, 2017 10:21 am |
Dry brushing does work, and I've got my own pet theory as to why. I think it is the histamine response acting a sort of effector of tissue repair / regeneration. When skin is irritated, histamine is released which causes blood vessels to dilate which is why the skin gets red. I suspect other substances are generated (growth factors) as well. Too much histamine is a bad thing - e.g., hives and itching, but small amounts may have hormetic effects. Anti-histamines can blunt the benefits of exercise, for example.*
The why doesn't really matter, unless one were to apply benadryl lotion after dry brushing, which might cancel the effects.
* anti-histamines and exercise
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160414122009.htm |
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