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Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:08 am      Reply with quote
I have been considering trying out another facial exercise program. I did not get good results with the program I have been using. Should I forgo the facial exercises and invest in a TriPollar Stop device? I need some serious lifting in my jawline, cheeks and neck. Tripollar is not cheap, so I will of course research it and go from there, but I would love some opinions from members who have tried it.
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Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:31 am      Reply with quote
From memory you were doing Ageless right - well I think I shared with you when I did just Ageless my lower face didn't look as good so I have incorporated some lower face exercises from other programs and that works well for me. However I did give it a go - and tried it for a few months without doing other programs, but I like mixing and matching exercises so that works well for me.

With Tripollar - most people I know who purchased it initially - none are still using it. Some even went on to using Lightstim in its place and said that was better even though it is not the same kind of device.
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I have been considering trying out another facial exercise program. I did not get good results with the program I have been using. Should I forgo the facial exercises and invest in a TriPollar Stop device? I need some serious lifting in my jawline, cheeks and neck. Tripollar is not cheap, so I will of course research it and go from there, but I would love some opinions from members who have tried it.
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Hi TheresaMary. Yes, I was using the Ageless Exercise Program. The problem was bruising and what appeared to be broken capillaries around the area where my nostrils and cheeks meet. I was using the program, resting for a few days as instructed, taking breaks, etc. but each time I started back up the same thing would happen. I gave up. At this point, I don't think I know enough about facial exercising to combine exercises from different programs. I am curious about the Tripollar device, but I will not purchase it. I would rather invest in a professional peel or laser treatment because over the last few years I have developed very sensitive skin and I don't know how my skin will react to home-use devices. I don't want to invest in a device that my skin can't tolerate. It's strange because I have a deep olive complexion and never had sensitive skin in my life. I have always used actives (tretinoin, Vitamin C, etc.) but I had to stop using everything for the last 6 months or so because my skin was getting inflamed and I was getting rashes from everything. Even the sun was giving me rashes and crazy itching (with sunscreen).(And I must use sunscreen because I have already had a basal cell carcinoma on my face and a biopsy for melanoma on the back of my thigh last month. Fortunately it was not a melanoma). I resorted to wearing a hat, long sleeved tops and long pants until I could tolerate sunscreen again. I have been dermarolling for a long time (infrequently) and had no problem with it. The only thing I had added to the skin regimen that I had already been using for years was the Baby Quasar and I added it in slowly, but I think it tipped my skin over the edge. I sold it because I figured it was going to be a long time before I could use it again without inflammation. So, I am finally at the point where I have incorporated tretinoin and Vitamin C back into my skin care routine with no irritation. My sun sensitivity is gone too. But, after what I went through I won't be purchasing any new devices anytime soon. I would like to begin a facial exercise program again. I am going back and forth between Carolyn's Facial Fitness and Carole Maggio's Facercise. They both have wonderful and extensive reviews. Carolyn is known for her great customer service, but there are a lot of exercises to learn. A plus is that Carolyn's program can be done 3-5 days a week. Carole Maggio's program seems easier to master. I like that you can do the exercises in the car, but I don't like that you have to do them 2x a day. So, I am going back and forth. My biggest pet peeve is vertical lip lines. Because I just can't decide between the two programs, I am reading reviews about how successful their upper lip exercises are at fading or eliminating perioral lines and will probably choose the program that best addresses them. I emailed Carolyn and she claims that it takes a lonnng time, but her program does eliminate them. So that is where I am at right now. I also used the $$ I received from the sale of my Baby Quasar to purchase a Derminator. I have not used it yet, put I am planning to start next week. So, if you have any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:03 am      Reply with quote
Rather than recommend those programs, why not try Tom Haggerty's www.shapeyourface.com first. That's only 5 exercises and works the major muscle groups with resistance without over stressing the skin so it may be better than either of those two. Facercise does have to be done 2x a day but it doesn't take long at all. Maybe 10-15 minutes max and you can do them sitting up or lying down. I used to do parts of hers whilst brushing my teeth in the morning (well just after I had done them in the bathroom mirror I would do the exercises that worked for me).
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I am going back and forth between Carolyn's Facial Fitness and Carole Maggio's Facercise. They both have wonderful and extensive reviews. Carolyn is known for her great customer service, but there are a lot of exercises to learn. A plus is that Carolyn's program can be done 3-5 days a week. Carole Maggio's program seems easier to master. I like that you can do the exercises in the car, but I don't like that you have to do them 2x a day. So, I am going back and forth. My biggest pet peeve is vertical lip lines. Because I just can't decide between the two programs, I am reading reviews about how successful their upper lip exercises are at fading or eliminating perioral lines and will probably choose the program that best addresses them. I emailed Carolyn and she claims that it takes a lonnng time, but her program does eliminate them. So that is where I am at right now. I also used the $$ I received from the sale of my Baby Quasar to purchase a Derminator. I have not used it yet, put I am planning to start next week. So, if you have any suggestions for me, I would really appreciate it. Thanks!
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TheresaMary, sorry I wrote you a book. It's really nice of you to recommend Tom Haggerty's program. I am going to take your advice and try it! It sounds gentle which is probably best for me right now. I just wish I could get my skin back to being non-sensitive so that I could do things like peels, laser treatments, etc. I really fried my face and it took months and months to recover. I never thought the "leather" on my forehead would go away and I still have melasma under my eyes and on my cheeks that was not there before I fried myself. But, I am grateful that I was able to work Retin A and Vitamin C back into my routine. For months it was only coconut oil to wash and moisturize. Anything else caused a flare up. Thank you again. I appreciate it.
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Hi, bugaboo, Yes, I have. My underarm loose skin is too voluminous for fascia blaster. Rolling Eyes Thank you very much for the suggestion.
I think you dodged a bullet by not using the fascia blaster. It has caused all the loss of volume in my batwings! It has also caused a previously quiet thyroid problem to go hyperactive and now requires surgery. I'm totally against fascia blaster usage!
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Try bioidentical progesterone cream for hormone balance, it works great, for joint pain wrinkles and weightgain. It takes time to stabilise but really worth it.only one drop a day, no more.

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MaryTheresa - I haven't been on here in almost a month, but I did want to update. I have been using Tom Haggerty's Shape Your Face and I like it! Probably because only 6 exercises! And, I can actually move my ears back (just a tad) when doing the scalp exercise. This exercise is a double home-run for me because it stimulates hair growth and I have certainly lost my share of hair. Thank you for recommending it. So far, so good.
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Yes it is good. I don't always have time to do my mix and match of exercises but still go back to his and purchased the dvd of his showing the exercises as I'm a visual learner and that too is great. Plus he still mans his own forum too which I think is important.
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MaryTheresa - I haven't been on here in almost a month, but I did want to update. I have been using Tom Haggerty's Shape Your Face and I like it! Probably because only 6 exercises! And, I can actually move my ears back (just a tad) when doing the scalp exercise. This exercise is a double home-run for me because it stimulates hair growth and I have certainly lost my share of hair. Thank you for recommending it. So far, so good.
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I absolutely love his program. I purchased the video and booklet too. (I am a firm believer that people should be paid for their work). It is, however, very generous of him to provide so much free info online. These exercises are easier for me to remember since there are only 6.
I like the fact that you can do some of them when driving (or doing just about anything else).
It took me two days to have the exercises committed to memory. I still require a mirror for one of the exercises and I'm not quite sure about my form on another (tongue on roof of mouth). Basically I think they are fun to do so I don't mind at all. I especially like the scalp exercise because it is challenging! Last but not least, I like Tom (in his video). He seems like a very sincere guy and he looks great!! I believe I can stick with this one. So, TM, thank you again for introducing me to it. Now if it just works for me!

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Yes it is good. I don't always have time to do my mix and match of exercises but still go back to his and purchased the dvd of his showing the exercises as I'm a visual learner and that too is great. Plus he still mans his own forum too which I think is important.
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MaryTheresa - I haven't been on here in almost a month, but I did want to update. I have been using Tom Haggerty's Shape Your Face and I like it! Probably because only 6 exercises! And, I can actually move my ears back (just a tad) when doing the scalp exercise. This exercise is a double home-run for me because it stimulates hair growth and I have certainly lost my share of hair. Thank you for recommending it. So far, so good.
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Chery, is the bioidentical progesterone cream for hormone balance over the counter?
If so, is there one you recommend?

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TheresaMary , "I have incorporated some lower face exercises from other programs and that works well for me." Could you please tell me which programs did you incorporate? Thank you.
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From memory you were doing Ageless right - well I think I shared with you when I did just Ageless my lower face didn't look as good so I have incorporated some lower face exercises from other programs and that works well for me. However I did give it a go - and tried it for a few months without doing other programs, but I like mixing and matching exercises so that works well for me.

With Tripollar - most people I know who purchased it initially - none are still using it. Some even went on to using Lightstim in its place and said that was better even though it is not the same kind of device.
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I have been considering trying out another facial exercise program. I did not get good results with the program I have been using. Should I forgo the facial exercises and invest in a TriPollar Stop device? I need some serious lifting in my jawline, cheeks and neck. Tripollar is not cheap, so I will of course research it and go from there, but I would love some opinions from members who have tried it.

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I had a MACS facelift in Belgium (along with an upper eyelift & fat transfer) & got FANTASTIC results. Basically I got my face back. Im just so pleased I didnt faff around with home devices or expensive treatments but of course the results were so good people noticed & were curious as to what I had done but were too polite to ask. If they had I would have said laser & a bit of filler.

The MACS only did my mid/lower face & neck but I looked 10 years younger, & 4 years later some of the fat has gone but it still looks great. Worth every penny, & not that much down time - 2 weeks or so. Easy to book as a holiday, come back with a tan & new haircut.

Or get the facelift, then a few weeks later get the filers (fat has about a week down time). Id recommend the MAC because it does the neck under the chin too & has a much shorter scar/is less invasive than a traditional facelift.

Non surgical skin tightening is the holy grail of cosmetic medicine, but it just isnt the same as surgery. Ive just had a HIFU facelift & am having 2 sessions of radiotherapy & I got the doctor to show me using his fingers to pull my skin up how much it would lift & it was good but nothing like the facelift. About 1/4 of a cm. Good for me, but had I done that 4 years ago instead I would have been VERY disappointed.

Ive done SO much research on this & CO2 Fraxel looks promising (had the Smartxide, it did nothing), HIFU/ultherapy combined with STRONG radiotherapy may also provide some results (various weaker radiotherapies on my legs did nothing). But all of these treatements are temporary - so you have to go back every year or less to keep the results. Thats a LOT of time & money.

Seriously, a short scar/minimally invasive/MACs lift combined with fat transfer/a deep fraxel peel/a deepish TCA peel (which you can do at home - but doesnt firm skin) & youre sorted.

For the lady with the arms - apparently the muscles 'detach' themselves from the bones hence saggy arms, saggy bottoms etc. Im going to do the HIFU & radiotherapy on my legs & in 3-6 weeks will know if the radiotherapy has done anything, & in 12-16 weeks will know if the HIFU has. Also getting back into excercise as it is apparently a key part. Most of the regular exercisers I know have firm skin (except the runners who lose it from their faces).

Ive tried exercises, IPL, other lasers & nothing. To get skin firming you have to go really deep & if you dont do it right you lose fat. Exercises seem to be risky as bits of your face you dont want built up get bigger. IMHO of course!
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It wouldn't help you because (a) we are both different and (b) I'm nearly 70 years old. So my needs are way different than yours.

I incorporate exercises from Facercise, Facial Magic, Eva Fraser, Tom Haggerty's, Deborah Crowleys plus a few others. I came to facial exercises in my 50's after rapid weight loss and I had dreaded sagging big time. So my needs were different than yours. To go into detail wouldn't help you much because your face is different to mine and what works for me doesn't work for others. You have to look objectively at it, what do you want to improve, whats already good and then start incorporating things in. In the beginning I followed several programs to the letter for a period of time, but found that whilst these worked for the authors, my face needed more.

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TheresaMary , "I have incorporated some lower face exercises from other programs and that works well for me." Could you please tell me which programs did you incorporate? Thank you.
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