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Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:58 am |
TheresaMary wrote: |
I do think that Deb looks fantastic for her age, but not just her. Eva Fraser looks great too and I don't think has had any work done (but again I'm no expert here), but also there are several others. Gloria Martel to me is also another who looks fantastic, as well as Santa Marie Runge etc. |
Also Carolyn Cleaves!  |
_________________ female,"50 something" medium to thick normal skin, no wrinkles,Lightstim,Easy Eye Solutions,Green Smoothies,Ageless Secret Gold, Pico Toner,Beautiful Image |
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Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:46 am |
Very true, and there are bound to be others!
Toby wrote: |
TheresaMary wrote: |
I do think that Deb looks fantastic for her age, but not just her. Eva Fraser looks great too and I don't think has had any work done (but again I'm no expert here), but also there are several others. Gloria Martel to me is also another who looks fantastic, as well as Santa Marie Runge etc. |
Also Carolyn Cleaves!  |
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Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:02 am |
I love Kassy, always makes me giggle, but on her posting, I decided to take a look back at the older videos and see what she means here:
http://s378.photobucket.com/albums/oo228/LouiseAnnette
Kassy_A wrote: |
In my humble opinion, (which I am fully entitled to), my opinion is that LouLou is pumped full of fillers (in this new video), and looks like crap compared to the videos we have from a year or so ago.
http://www.theagelessmethod.com/TruthAboutAgeingVideo.html
Granted, she looks like she put on a few pounds, but don't we all wish we could put on the "lbs" exactly where we want them.. i.e.: NL folds, under eye hollows and cheeks..? (If I had my druthers I'd reserve a few pounds for my 'boy hips' if it were me...)
Puhleeeze! What a crock of crap, (disguised as the results of facial exercise.. ) I am so sick of these so called skin care guru's, who are obviously taking such advantage of the *innocents* who fall for it all.
Feel free to delete my post for calling a spade a spade...
Thanks, I feel better now...  |
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Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:54 am |
I actually was referring to the videos/pictures that were "pre" nose surgery... (Under eye hollows, and deep NL folds are apparent.) (I don't think I can share the link publicly though, because it may have been the one that came with the purchase of her program..)
To my eyes, the video you shared shows her post (original) filler face.
What I saw on her "newest" teaser video clearly shows additional fillers (of some sort), and sorry, but I think it is overboard, and not becoming at all...)
Believe me when I tell you that I have no desire to bash LouLou or anybody else who is selling a product. BUT, I have a huge problem with those same *sellers*, who are clearly enhancing their appearance with *other* things, and then trying to pass the results off as the result of facial exercise alone.
C'mon now folks? Can any of you out there honestly say that any "one" thing you do (or have done) is enough to completely undue a life time of damage on it's own... If that's the case, please point me directly to it, and then I can unload my unnecessary *arsenal*...
I do have a question for our few members who absolutely love and swear by the benefit of facial exercise. Can any one of you (that have good results) tell me that;
1. It is the "only thing/routine you practice"?
2. You own no other skin care gadgets?
3. You now have cheeks when in your heyday you did not?
4. You have managed to change the shape of your face + bone structure?
5. You have huge duck lips that actually impair your speech?
6. You look better at 60 than you did at 40?
7. Your eyebrows are an inch higher now than they were 10 years ago?
8. Not only did facial exercise magically transform your entire face shape, but it has also transformed your skin to dewy youthfulness?
Anyhoo, you get the idea of what I've derived from what "all" exercise guru's would have us believe.
And with that I'm going to spend a few hours with my little "arsenal" of gadgets this evening, so I can be somewhat dewy + fresh when I'm cooking Thanksgiving dinner for 17 on Thursday.
Here's one guarantee I can give y'all though... All the gadgets in the world won't keep me from looking like what the cat dragged in on Friday...  |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:09 pm |
The only person whom I had seen up close and personal, who had the most incredible wrinkle-free and sag-free skin without any surgical/filler interventions was Pratima Raichur.
She did practice facial exercises daily, daily massage and being skin care guru had access to thousands of herbal remedies.
She also practiced Ayurveda, and the whole lifestyle that goes with it.
I had seen her when she was in her early-to-mid 60ties. I do not know how she looks today, but at the time she looked stunningly beautiful.
Lulu imho looks like she had some prednisone shots - like she has a swollen face and body. I would not even think that it were the same person in the 1st videos and the 2nd one. I just hope she did not have any health issues.
All in all I found the 2nd videos not really enticing. |
_________________ Early 50s, Skin: combin.,semi-sensitive, fair with occasional breakouts, some old acne scars, freckles, under-eye wrinkles; Redhead with hazel eyes |
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Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:36 pm |
Leave it to kassy to put the cards on the table. (A spade a spade: so to speak). Yep, unfortunately it does look like fillers. |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:42 pm |
Awesome job Kassy! That's it in a nutshell. To me it is the whole package, don't sell just the ONE THING! |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:05 am |
I watched the video from the link given by Kassy and it exhausted me. Loulou is constantly moving her head. She had something like that in the video that she sold, but I believe it's worse now. Her posture doesn't help.
If her hair can't be combed, she should tie it. It's a bigger distraction because of her head movements.
She might have had a good idea for exercising the cheeks (I do those once a week or so instead of the FlexEffect ones, just for variety; I stick with FE for the rest of the face), but she should get someone else to do any more videos. |
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Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:31 pm |
Marie-Andrée wrote: |
I watched the video from the link given by Kassy and it exhausted me. Loulou is constantly moving her head. She had something like that in the video that she sold, but I believe it's worse now. |
My first thought when I saw the video was that the poor girl has Parkinsons. My daughter had just been watching an episode of Scrubs that had Michael J Fox in it, and she said out loud what I had been thinking! |
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Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:18 pm |
Loulou proved to be a pretty crappy business woman....no question about it.
However, for a long time she very graciously helped people on the FE board. Then she had her own program, very nice. I consider Ageless a nice addition, not really a program....
I bought it for $10, very cheap. Pictures of Loulou transformation due to facial exercises are worth more than $10. To me. I first saw her picture on the old YTF board and it gave me hope.
Hope is priceless....
Facial exercises did transform my face. After years of tretinoin, C-serum, self-administered peels, high-PPD sunscreens and DIY lotions and potions my 47 yo face is wrinkle - free, but it was sagging. I do mostly Flexeffect and I love it, but I incorporate Ageless and other exercises often. I exercise A LOT. Do I look like I had a face lift? No! I look better. I look natural. My face is lifted.
Maybe Loulou is on medications of same sort, that`s why she looks so puffy. Maybe she gained weight....who knows? Be it medication, weight gain or fillers her skin is smooth and firm. She still looks better than most of the sun-damaged, saggy middle-aged women I see all around me.... |
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:25 am |
Yes I agree with Kassy - I thought that Lulu looked very puffed, I did not think of fillers as dont know much about them - certainly not a natural look. |
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:49 am |
I think it quite possible that LouLou has achieved her quite flawless face from excercise and massage.
I also think it in very poor taste to criticise her mannerisms, I'm sure we could all rip each other to pieces if we chose to be critical rather than kind.
LouLou has shared something terrific, for a very low price, and given a lot of help and feedback in a very charming way for quite a while.
How about focusing on what she has contributed, rather than the less than ideal aspects.
Dont we all have less than ideal aspects?!
Thanks to LouLou for a great programme that is do - able and enjoyable.
BTW, some days, I look a bit puffy. Especially if I have been crying or upset or had a glass too much wine. C'est la vie, surely?! |
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:40 pm |
catski wrote: |
I think it quite possible that LouLou has achieved her quite flawless face from excercise and massage.
I also think it in very poor taste to criticise her mannerisms, I'm sure we could all rip each other to pieces if we chose to be critical rather than kind.
LouLou has shared something terrific, for a very low price, and given a lot of help and feedback in a very charming way for quite a while.
How about focusing on what she has contributed, rather than the less than ideal aspects.
Dont we all have less than ideal aspects?!
Thanks to LouLou for a great programme that is do - able and enjoyable.
BTW, some days, I look a bit puffy. Especially if I have been crying or upset or had a glass too much wine. C'est la vie, surely?! |
When folks choose to SELL their product, that puts them in a different category then the rest of us here.
They also leave themselves open to both raves as well as ridicule, as the users of said product see fit to share.
Based on what you have wrote, I can only assume you haven't visited the "ageless" forum she abandoned more than 8 months ago. And then has the audacity to post about her brand new product for sale just in time for the holiday's.. (If you have been to her forum, and don't think there's anything wrong with it, then that's your opinion which you are fully entitled to.)
Sorry, but I think it's tacky. And I also think shame on LL for abandoning the members that were begging for her help for months on end. It was also very disrespectful of her to have so many of them needlessly worried about her safety and well being. It takes only seconds to post a few sentences on *her* forum, which would have given the folks there reassurance at least that she was okay.
Look at the bright side though, after reading how upset and disgusted the majority are with her now, she has had ample time to come up with a good reason for her absence.
Non-puffy Kassy over and out ...  |
_________________ ♥I'm flattered by all the lovely PM's, but I don't get here much these days. Please don't be afraid to post your quearies to other DIY members who will be glad to help you (or sell you their wares..lol) Still happy with LED, dermarolling and a DIY antioxidant regime. Peace & Hugs to all.♥ |
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:21 pm |
i still feel it's hard to bring something 'new' into the world..which i feel facial exercises are...
(even though they were done traditionally in far eastern Asia...albeit w/different variations/w/a different understanding of the way that beauty is connected to the whole body..and done along w/other healing techniques for the face/body/internal organs)
so given that..i am still grateful for Loulou, despite mistakes she may have made...which feel all too human to me..as a (very) small business creator i know how difficult it is not to be 'human' ...and that sometimes the tension of the expectations placed on one.. can be difficult to maintain..even though one's essential spirit is still intact..(and not so 'horrid' as it may outwardly appear)...
so despite whatever she may have done..i am all for giving her a second chance.....
and because of her creativity.. and what she can offer...hope she does not 'close up' again..(cause in my mind/perceptions that's what happened...she retreated inwardly and closed up outwardly...certainly many of us have done the same thing . ..(although perhaps those on this forum have not)....it doesn't make one's spirit horrible...although do believe she has some 'catching up and making up' to do.) |
_________________ 71 years, primarily raw living food 35 years(vegan 45 years) herbal tea decoctions, homeopathy, TCM, facial massage, facial exercises, vacu-lifting, gua aha, shiatsu/acupressure, intention, home microcurrrent |
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Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:35 pm |
one thing i can say i've learned from Loulou's mistakes ..not saying, of course, this is the only one..is never to have a forum associated w/my business..pre Loulou's i had seriously considered it! |
_________________ 71 years, primarily raw living food 35 years(vegan 45 years) herbal tea decoctions, homeopathy, TCM, facial massage, facial exercises, vacu-lifting, gua aha, shiatsu/acupressure, intention, home microcurrrent |
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Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:03 pm |
Has anyone seen these photos of Loulou? I saw them about a year ago in her Photobucket account and didn't know what to think... looks like a face lift or something? Or is it some kind of tightening stuff on her skin? But then what about the brows - they are so much higher?
bit.ly/fJlgHO
(see photos 68-71) |
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Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:31 am |
I must admit that I do agree, there has not been any proper explanation put forward as to her extended absence, which isn't so good for those, as some of us were geuninely worried. I've since learned though, that she vanished from the FlexEffect forum (obviously when she was setting up Ageless stuff) and did the same to folks there, so maybe its just her way (no excuse here, just saying). Anyway none of us is perfect (I've got to be the first one to put my hands up here) but I do think for what its worth Ageless is a good add on to any program, and its simple, quick and easy. I've only had a few communications with her business partner Anne, and so far she seems both professional and geuninely willing to help which is great. I think part of the original issue with Ageless was that Lou didn't have proper support. The mods never really seemed to be able to answer technical questions, and when they did it never kind of reassured people.
Kassy_A wrote: |
Sorry, but I think it's tacky. And I also think shame on LL for abandoning the members that were begging for her help for months on end. It was also very disrespectful of her to have so many of them needlessly worried about her safety and well being. It takes only seconds to post a few sentences on *her* forum, which would have given the folks there reassurance at least that she was okay.
Look at the bright side though, after reading how upset and disgusted the majority are with her now, she has had ample time to come up with a good reason for her absence. |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:50 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
I think its sad and quite disgusting that "she's back" just in time for holiday gift giving season, when she's left her faithful followers to flounder for months on end on her forum. |
It takes time to recover from a facelift.  |
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Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:17 pm |
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:44 pm |
Kassy_A wrote: |
I actually was referring to the videos/pictures that were "pre" nose surgery... (Under eye hollows, and deep NL folds are apparent.) (I don't think I can share the link publicly though, because it may have been the one that came with the purchase of her program..)
To my eyes, the video you shared shows her post (original) filler face.
What I saw on her "newest" teaser video clearly shows additional fillers (of some sort), and sorry, but I think it is overboard, and not becoming at all...)
Believe me when I tell you that I have no desire to bash LouLou or anybody else who is selling a product. BUT, I have a huge problem with those same *sellers*, who are clearly enhancing their appearance with *other* things, and then trying to pass the results off as the result of facial exercise alone.
C'mon now folks? Can any of you out there honestly say that any "one" thing you do (or have done) is enough to completely undue a life time of damage on it's own... If that's the case, please point me directly to it, and then I can unload my unnecessary *arsenal*...
I do have a question for our few members who absolutely love and swear by the benefit of facial exercise. Can any one of you (that have good results) tell me that;
1. It is the "only thing/routine you practice"?
2. You own no other skin care gadgets?
3. You now have cheeks when in your heyday you did not?
4. You have managed to change the shape of your face + bone structure?
5. You have huge duck lips that actually impair your speech?
6. You look better at 60 than you did at 40?
7. Your eyebrows are an inch higher now than they were 10 years ago?
8. Not only did facial exercise magically transform your entire face shape, but it has also transformed your skin to dewy youthfulness?
Anyhoo, you get the idea of what I've derived from what "all" exercise guru's would have us believe.
And with that I'm going to spend a few hours with my little "arsenal" of gadgets this evening, so I can be somewhat dewy + fresh when I'm cooking Thanksgiving dinner for 17 on Thursday.
Here's one guarantee I can give y'all though... All the gadgets in the world won't keep me from looking like what the cat dragged in on Friday...  |
ROTFLMAO at this. I have tried EVERYTHING. I swear by facial exercises but I've had Juvederm and resty in my NLs and years ago, a nose job. I don't get fillers or Botox any more, not because I don't "need" them, but I think they make you look lumpy and also I wanted to put the $ aside for a certain cause. I also use my Baby Quasar when I have time. Somehow SOMEHOW, I have retained "dewy youthfulness." It's likely estriol, good genes, loads of supplements, sunscreen and exercises. I DO believe in exercises, but not as the only contributor to youthful appearance.
OK just looked at LouLou's introductory video. She looks like she has put on a few pounds but I'm not sure she looks fake. Just MHO. |
_________________ Born in 1952. Blonde, very good skin. A few noticeable wrinkles. |
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Sun May 01, 2011 3:19 am |
Please tell me that I'm not the only one that found that both hilarious and depressing at the same time!!! |
_________________ Born 1950. There's a new cream on the market that gets rid of wrinkles - you smear it on the mirror!! |
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Sun May 01, 2011 5:30 am |
Keliu, while I was watching the video I found myself saying OUT LOUD: 'is this (girl/woman) for real?'. I love the Ageless exercises, but find Loulou and her sidekick, Anne, a tad strange.
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Sun May 01, 2011 5:42 am |
Oh Keliu how right you are.It is tragic to see her, it would almost put you off using anything from her site. To me she looks as if she has been ill, and is just coming out of it. I dont just mean a physical illness,something that has knocked her system right off! Sometimes when you are not right just living seems impossible!
I am not one of her disappointed customers, I did order her previous program but decided I liked FE much better.
Having said all that I do hope she pulls it together and at least sorts things out for those who were left in the lurch. Rather than just carrying on as if nothing has happened and plug a new project. |
_________________ 46 got (PMD,Caci,QuasarMD,Tria , skin spatula) Using, environ , myfawnie serums, lacsal, retinol, GHk probably more but too embarrased to say |
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Tue May 03, 2011 3:09 am |
OMG - have you seen Anne's photo on the website:
http://www.riverdragon.org/?page_id=2
I think Loulou looks a bit strange in this video (sorry if people don't think I'm entitled to an opinion but shes selling a product to use on our faces so we have to crtique her don't we) and I personally don't want to end up looking like Anne or Loulou!
HippoMe wrote: |
Keliu, while I was watching the video I found myself saying OUT LOUD: 'is this (girl/woman) for real?'. I love the Ageless exercises, but find Loulou and her sidekick, Anne, a tad strange.
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