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Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:42 pm |
maranza, that's great! I'd be sooo happy if I was losing 2 lbs a week.
rileygirl - how funny, I just came back from Barnes and Noble, where I spotted the "Clean Eating" magazine for the first time! Of course I picked up the issue.
Then I went down the Diet aisle...and was overwhelmed! I thought I was just going to grab a copy of "UltraMetabolism", but I was just fascinated by all the different diet books out there.
In the end, I came home and ordered a couple of books from Amazon that focus on appetite disorders and emotional eating. I think I need to understand why I sabotage myself. |
_________________ Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:28 pm |
| What books did you pick up, nadjazz? I definitely understand the need to figure out the self-sabotage! |
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Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:40 pm |
| maranza wrote: |
| I am down 13 pounds - definitely a lot more fun to gain it than to lose it. .... |
maranza, congrats! Sounds like you're doing great
| maranza wrote: |
| He is naturally thin and he wonders why I am always plotting his death. |
I can totally relate to this (and to how much more fun/easier it is to gain than lose )
Rileygirl, thanks for the recipe! It sounds similar to what I'm doing with the chia seed, though I'm not using the supplements or protein powder. Actually, I think if I mixed protein powder with the chia water/gel it would almost amount to an actual meal.
nadjazz, self sabotage has long been an issue for me too. I think we're in a very similar place with the eating issues. I was actually thinking today about looking up information on 12 step groups and breaking * spam alert */addictive patterns. I think mine is partly a learned behaviour, but genetically the cards are stacked against me regardless. I've been re-reading Bethany's post on page 21 with the "Food Rehab" information; there is a small amount of comfort in knowing that the cravings are a well-understood response that can be overcome. Not enough comfort to keep me avoiding the wrong foods, of course but I'm not actually trying to do that just yet. I have a Blendtec arriving on Thursday and that's when I'm planning to start an all out assault on body fat. I'm anticipating blood, sweat and tears and I hope I have what it takes to stick with it.  |
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Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:46 pm |
| maranza wrote: |
| I am down 13 pounds - definitely a lot more fun to gain it than to lose it. I have a problem drinking the water but I am struggling through it. 6 meals a day - really 3 meals and 3 snacks. Lots of fiber but alas lots of gas. Good thing I work by myself! Fruits, veggies, protein, low fat and LOTS of fiber. Hate to exercise but I cheat - park further away and walk. 1 cheat day a week when I eat what I want but I only eat half. Ask for doggy bag when I order the food and cut my meal in half BEFORE I take the first bite. Hubby eats my left overs. He is naturally thin and he wonders why I am always plotting his death. But I have noticed even though it is a cheat day - I am making better choices. I love Coke so I allow myself 1 8oz baby can a day. I am averaging 2 pounds a week - sometimes more but very seldom less. I can live with this. |
That sounds like GREAT progress...Congrats!!
The gas will let up over time...you are actually supposedly to slowly increase the fiber over time to allow your digestive system to gradually get used to it. Or you can just go for it and fart all day.  |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:17 am |
Maranza, I missed your post. You sound like you are doing great. Congratulations! Your "diet" sounds very sensible, which I really believe is the way to go.
Tidbit of the day from Fitness Rx for Women:
Whey protein, vitamin D, and Calcium increase lean mass and cut fat (at least in rats!). According to a study done by Purdue University, rats fed a diet low in calcium and D had more fat and less lean mass than animals given the above combo of supplements. (Nutrition Research, 28:783-7790, 2008) |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:50 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| What books did you pick up, nadjazz? I definitely understand the need to figure out the self-sabotage! |
rileygirl, I love your tidbits for the day! Keep 'em coming. I just finished a month-long course of prescription vit D myself.
I got these. Will post back on whatever tidbits I think are worthy of sharing.
http://www.amazon.com/Younger-Thinner-You-Diet-Understanding/dp/1594867771/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
http://www.amazon.com/Skinny-without-Hungry-Ultimate-Success/dp/0767930398/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244993763&sr=1-1
And…just for fun, Lisa Rinna’s book:
http://www.amazon.com/Rinnavation-Getting-Your-Best-Life/dp/1416948635/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244946070&sr=1-1
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nadjazz, self sabotage has long been an issue for me too. I think we're in a very similar place with the eating issues. I was actually thinking today about looking up information on 12 step groups and breaking * spam alert */addictive patterns. I think mine is partly a learned behaviour, but genetically the cards are stacked against me regardless. I've been re-reading Bethany's post on page 21 with the "Food Rehab" information; there is a small amount of comfort in knowing that the cravings are a well-understood response that can be overcome. Not enough comfort to keep me avoiding the wrong foods, of course but I'm not actually trying to do that just yet. I have a Blendtec arriving on Thursday and that's when I'm planning to start an all out assault on body fat. I'm anticipating blood, sweat and tears and I hope I have what it takes to stick with it.  |
Yes, Lowbrowscientist, I am at that 12-step point! I had a mildly stressful week at work, and although I realized it, that didn’t stop me from shoveling junk in my mouth. I thought I was just going to the bookstore to buy a diet book, but when I saw all the options on the shelf, I was suddenly struck by the thought that another diet plan isn’t what I really need.
I went back to bethany’s food rehab post (thank you for the reminder, Lowbrowscientist!). I actually looked at the book bethany references (The End of Overeating: Taking Control of the Insatiable American Appetite), and put it back down in lieu of the other two I listed above in response to rileygirl. I thought, from the title and opening paragraphs, that it was more of a discussion of our society, rather than a how-to book. Looking back at bethany’s post, I realize I made a mistake. Hopefully, these other two are worthwhile.
Good luck with the Blendtec and your full-on assault! DH and I love our Vitamix. |
_________________ Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:50 am |
I'll try to keep the tidbits coming, Nadjazz! Thought it may keep everyone interested/motivated. I know I need the motivation!
The books look interesting. Please post your thoughts on them!
Here is Skwigg's blog. She has a part 1/2 review of The End of Overeating... that may be of interest.
http://skwigg.tripod.com/blog/ |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:51 pm |
| nadjazz wrote: |
| rileygirl, I love your tidbits for the day! Keep 'em coming. |
Ditto...thanks!! |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:54 pm |
I brought a friend's cold back with me from Dallas and I think it is threatening to turn into a sinus infection. I had fallen off the OoO wagon, so this was a great reason to climb back on and see if I can knock it out sooner rather than later.
In the meantime, I feel like crap. But I did manage to get top the grocery store and stock up on healthy foods. |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:37 pm |
| bethany, I'm so sorry about the cold, but hopefully the OoO knocks it out quick. You should be so proud of yourself for stocking up on the healthy choices! |
_________________ Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:53 pm |
Hmmm, this book may have to go on my list! I like Skwigg's blog. |
_________________ Nadine, age 50, live in VA; half-Asian, slight yellow tone; sensitive, dry/combo skin |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:09 pm |
| nadjazz wrote: |
| bethany, I'm so sorry about the cold, but hopefully the OoO knocks it out quick. You should be so proud of yourself for stocking up on the healthy choices! |
Thanks..I'm hoping so too, since I have had it since Thursday.  |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:15 pm |
| bethany wrote: |
In the meantime, I feel like crap. But I did manage to get top the grocery store and stock up on healthy foods. |
I hope you feel better soon, Bethany! Stinks to be sick, especially in this horrible heat! |
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Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:05 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
| bethany wrote: |
In the meantime, I feel like crap. But I did manage to get top the grocery store and stock up on healthy foods. |
I hope you feel better soon, Bethany! Stinks to be sick, especially in this horrible heat! |
Thanks...and thank goodness for A/C!! |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:26 am |
| bethany wrote: |
| Thanks...and thank goodness for A/C!! |
Amen, sister!  |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:32 am |
Tidbit of the day!
Raisins cut appetite and improve blood fats.
Eating 1 cup of raisins every day can decrease appetite and improve blood cholesterol profile. A University of Connecticut study showed that eating raisins decreased LDL, increased fiber intake, and altered hormones regulating hunger and satiety in men and women aged 50-70 years.
(Metabolism Clinical and Experimental, 58:120-128, 2009)
Here is a motivational quote for the week to help keep us on track:
"It comes down to a simple question: what do you want out of life, and what are you willing to do to get it?" |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:07 pm |
| rileygirl wrote: |
Tidbit of the day!
Raisins cut appetite and improve blood fats. |
I sure wish they didn't have so much sugar, because I really like raisins. But once I get to my goal weight, I will be adding them back in (in small amounts) since they are definitely good for you.
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Food Item:Raisins, seedless
Food Quantity: 1 cup
Carbs: 115g
Dietary Fiber: 5.4g
Net Carbs: 109.6g
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:14 am |
| bethany wrote: |
I sure wish they didn't have so much sugar, because I really like raisins. But once I get to my goal weight, I will be adding them back in (in small amounts) since they are definitely good for you.
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I just read that raisins are 60% sugar by weight, but most of it is fructose. Not sure if that makes a difference for some or not! |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:22 am |
Here's a tidbit for anyone who exercises and then eats afterwards to promote muscle growth/speed recovery. It may not be such a good idea if one is trying to lose fat.
Dr. Barry Braun from University of Mass, Amherst found that walking on a treadmill 1 hour per day improved blood sugar regulation by 40%. This effect was wiped out completely when people consumed a carb supplement immediately after exercise. Exercise helps create a caloric deficit that is diminished Greatly by post-exercise feeding. So, anyone trying to lose body fat, it is advised to skip the post workout feed. (Health Day, November 14, 2008) |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:35 am |
| rileygirl wrote: |
Here's a tidbit for anyone who exercises and then eats afterwards to promote muscle growth/speed recovery. It may not be such a good idea if one is trying to lose fat.
Dr. Barry Braun from University of Mass, Amherst found that walking on a treadmill 1 hour per day improved blood sugar regulation by 40%. This effect was wiped out completely when people consumed a carb supplement immediately after exercise. Exercise helps create a caloric deficit that is diminished Greatly by post-exercise feeding. So, anyone trying to lose body fat, it is advised to skip the post workout feed. (Health Day, November 14, 2008) |
I would like to know what they mean by "a carb supplement" - is that Gatorade or a protein drink or lunch? |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:22 am |
Rileygirl thank you very much - awesome article. I was a little wigged out because I go to the gym before lunch on average 3 x's a week and then eat lunch when I get back. My lunches are pretty low in carbs and 90% of the carbs are complex so hopefully I have not wasted all that time at the gym.  |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:02 pm |
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Rileygirl thank you very much - awesome article. I was a little wigged out because I go to the gym before lunch on average 3 x's a week and then eat lunch when I get back. My lunches are pretty low in carbs and 90% of the carbs are complex so hopefully I have not wasted all that time at the gym.  |
I thought it was very interesting, as that is what I have always been told to do, and I was trying to lose fat!! |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:12 pm |
| Basically I think if you stay away from "sport drinks" you should be okay. My question would be when the heck is a normal person supposed to exercise and then not eat for hours? |
_________________ mid 40's, blonde, blue eyes, normal skin, DIY skin regime, AALS - biggest problem undereye - getting much better with AALS & DIY serums. |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:10 pm |
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| Basically I think if you stay away from "sport drinks" you should be okay. My question would be when the heck is a normal person supposed to exercise and then not eat for hours? |
Hmm, I'm not too sure, Alley. My take was any carbs eaten within 3 hours after exercise was not a good thing. Of course, it sounds like you could still have a meal mostly of protein or a protein drink without negating the effects of the exercise if you have to eat soon after exercising. |
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