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Sun May 21, 2006 10:08 pm  |
| I just currently started using Retin-A to help with my acne scaring. My dermatologist expects I will be on it for 4-6 months. My face does not have rough dry patches like some experience but it does peel throughout the day and I have to continuously reapply mositurizer which ruins my makeup. My question is what would be a good exfoliator/microdermabrasion/scrub to make sure that I get all the dead skin off before I apply my makeup? Also what would a good moisturizer be to help the peeling, I am currently using jojoba oil. On another note I am a college student and my student nursing job isn't the most top paying position so recommendations that are affordable would be helpful. I am willing to pay some money but cannot really be paying for extremely pricey items. Also I have just gotten my face clear from acne and am so excited, so nothing that would be too pore clogging for the moisturizer. Thank you so much! |
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Sun May 21, 2006 11:15 pm |
| AHA, aspirin mask or papaya enzyme mask all help to get dead skin off. I like to use something stronger and Epidermx microdermabrasion is wonderful. If jojoba oil is doing fine for you just stick with it. I use camellia oil which keeps any dry patches away and keeps my skin smooth and supple. |
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Sun May 21, 2006 11:39 pm |
| Thanks. I do currently use the aspirin mask but didn't want to use it every day and was hoping for something I could use on a more daily basis or at least 3 times a week. Is there a particular brand of papaya mask that you have found works well? |
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Mon May 22, 2006 2:23 am |
Hi I too use Jojoba Oil as a moisturiser.
I really do recomend the homemade Dr H Cleansing cream (DR H CC):
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=11902
The cleansing cream, is abrasive enough to be used daily and yet it is not overly abrasive so it will not leave you with any outbreaks or sensitiveness. I have been using this for over 6 months now and my skin looks so clear and radient.
Also if you are on a budget it is ideal, once you have your oils in (believe me they last for ages) preparation cost is next to nothing.
I have found that Goundnut oil from the supermarket works well in this recipe too.
Also follow with Witch Hazel to tone, is conditions the skin and prepares for the Jojoba Oil. |
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oily/acne prone - acne scars on chin area/Large Pores in winter. Oily in Summer. Fair, nuetral/cool complexion, burn easily. Early 20s |
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Mon May 22, 2006 5:56 am |
| Hi! I agree with athena--- a good enzyme mask will definitely help you. A nice one for not a lot of money is Alba Hawaiian Pineapple enzyme mask. You could also try Juice Beauty's Green Apple peel. It's pricey, but the little sample size should last you several weeks, and it's very powerful. If you feel like jojoba is not moisturizing your skin enough, you might try using camellia oil. The brand I use is from chidoriyaworld.com and it's WONDERFUL stuff--- I was having some serious problems with my lips being scaly and flakey due to product sensitivities, and this cleared it right up! Again, if you are concerned with the price you can order a less expensive product and request a sample of the camellia oil--- this company is really good about samples and the vial they send would be enough for weeks. Lastly, I would recommend carrying around a bottle of the body shop's vitamin e facial spray. I know there are a million face sprays out there so it doesn't really make a lot of sense why this one in particular would help peeling, but it does. When I am battling a lot of peeling skin I always carry this with me--- a few spritzes and the peeling skin is gone! HTH! |
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Mon May 22, 2006 6:27 am |
| Thanks Manslayerliz, I had actually been looking for a facial spray anyway so I will have to try this one out. I am looking into camellia oil and the masks. |
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Mon May 22, 2006 7:12 am |
| Talking about camellia oil I use the Silkia one from goldportbeauty.com. It's great stuff at a good price. I like this stuff much more than rosehip oil. |
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Mon May 22, 2006 8:59 am |
| anbloom if you are experiencing alot of peeling with RetinA you should be very cautious about adding exfoliating. The RetinA is already exfoliation your skin and that is why you are peeling. I have very sensitive skin and use retinoids (Differin) also. I would advise against adding an exfoliating step until your skin becomes accustomed to the RetinA. But if you really want to go ahead with the exfoliating then a gentle product would be best. I can recommend the Kanebo Silk Peeling. It is very gentle and even my skin can tolerate it. |
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Mon May 22, 2006 11:56 am |
TheresaL, what would you recommend to make sure I get rid of the dead skin then so it's not flaking off throughout the day?
Thanks! |
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Mon May 22, 2006 12:12 pm |
| anbloom unfortunatly I don't have any recommendations, maybe someone else can give us some. I get face peels done at my derms and deal with the peeling skin from that but I usually don't use anything to remove the dead skin because I am too afraid of using something harsh right after my peels. I just put up with it for a few days but in your case where it is something constant I could see why that would not be an option for you! |
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Mon May 22, 2006 8:17 pm |
I use a product called Ginerva Marvel Gel with Green Tea.
It's a green gel that you put on your face and when you rub it off it all the "cornified layer" of skin rubs off.
It's gentle and doesn't sting.
I'm in Australia and got it at the chemist (drugstore). It costs $A19.95 for 30ml and $A39.95 for 60ml.
I'd say a generous pea-sized amount would do the whole face. So it's pretty well priced. I'm sure I've seen it on the internet too.
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Mon May 22, 2006 8:19 pm |
BTW, I'll add the the bits that come off when you use the gel aren't a chemical reaction the gel does to make you think it is taking off the cornified skin. I used it once straight after an aspirin mask and nothing came off. So it's ridgy didge. I think I also saw a post on some website where a girl just rubbed it on a desk to see if it was for real and same thing, no bits.
It's pretty cool stuff and I think it's helped my skin. It took loads off when I hadn't used it for a while and I've been using my Vit C and Eventone serum.
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Tue May 23, 2006 10:17 pm |
You have got to try Ice Elements 2 minute miracle exfoliating gel!
US and Canada can get 2 containers of 1/4 oz each for just $2.95 shipping... Go to http://www.iceelements.com for information. You can call or email Shelly as samples are not able to be ordered through their online system.
I tell you, I am in LOVE with this stuff! I talked my teen son into trying it and my bf is next! lmao!
What you do is spread a thin layer over your face, wait 2 minutes and then rub... and the dead skin and oil just sloughs off!
When I heard about it I thought, well everyone is talking this up so much that I have to try it but I am really not one to rave about a product and I thought that I would like it but not that I would LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
I really hope that you do try it and let me know how you like it! |
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:02 am |
I can't help with what to use, but I can tell you from experience, do not use Serious skin Care's A peel. I was on Retin A a couple years ago, and had the same peeling problem. I used the A peel thinking it would help remove the flaky skin. It did't burn while it was on my face, but when I rinsed it off, my face was bright red and very tight. It was like someone had burned the top couple of layers of skin off my face. Washing with a terry cloth wash cloth hurt. It took almost a week for my skin to return to normal. I'm not sure what ingredient it was, but that peel contains everything. (alpha hydroxy, glycolic and lactic acids, beta hydroxy salicylic, malic acid, plus papaya and papain enzymes.)
Just becareful before you go with anything too strong. |
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:45 am |
I would think that a good amount of massaging with OCM would help take care of the flakies.
When I was on the benzoyl peroxide regimen at acne.org, my skin was very flaky. I would take a long hot bath every night and let the steam and sweat soften up everything (this is with a clean face to start!), and then I would just gently rub with wet fingers and I got alot of the flakes off. I would think OCM would be similar, and less time consuming!
I am very sensitive to Retin-A, and when I was on it last, my derm advised to mix equal parts Retin-A and moisturizer. Even at the lowest percentage and with the moisturizer, I could only use it every other night.
Bosoxy made the Ice Elements product really good though! I'm not currently dealing with any peeling at all, and I'm also using the Clarisonic face brush twice daily, and I'm still tempted to try that 2 minute miracle stuff! |
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Wed May 24, 2006 12:43 pm |
Thank all of you so much for your help! Do any of you have an idea for a gentle cleanser, it seems like everything I try just tightens and drys my face more. Maybe a soap free cleanser?
Thank you again, you are all so helpful! |
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Wed May 24, 2006 1:21 pm |
anbloom one cleanser that I can recommend is Bioderma Crealine H2O No Rinse cleanser. This is very gentle and has NEVER irritated my very sensitive skin. It does take a little getting used to because you apply it like you would a toner and then pat your face dry. I don't know if you would want to rely on it ot remove heavy makeup or sunscreens though. I use the Sheseido Ultimate Cleansing Oil to remove any makeup,etc. then follow up with the Bioderma cleanser or La Roche Posay Toleriane Foaming Cleanser (I haven't made my mind up about the LRP, it seems to be too drying).
Jurlique Ultra Sensitive Face Wash is another great cleanser that has never irritated my skin. I find it a little too drying but it might work for you. It is a little pricey though. |
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Wed May 24, 2006 2:00 pm |
| Try Cetaphil. It's gentle enough for babies, and can be found in almost any drugstore. |
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Wed May 24, 2006 3:28 pm |
| anbloom wrote: |
| I just currently started using Retin-A to help with my acne scaring. My dermatologist expects I will be on it for 4-6 months. My face does not have rough dry patches like some experience but it does peel throughout the day and I have to continuously reapply mositurizer which ruins my makeup. My question is what would be a good exfoliator/microdermabrasion/scrub to make sure that I get all the dead skin off before I apply my makeup? Also what would a good moisturizer be to help the peeling, I am currently using jojoba oil. On another note I am a college student and my student nursing job isn't the most top paying position so recommendations that are affordable would be helpful. I am willing to pay some money but cannot really be paying for extremely pricey items. Also I have just gotten my face clear from acne and am so excited, so nothing that would be too pore clogging for the moisturizer. Thank you so much! |
Could you first try gently using a washcloth to remove the flakes? Baby washcloths might work as the weave is smaller/tighter than regular washcloths. I use RetinA, and I can rarely use exfoliating products, but the wash cloth usually works for me. I either use it right over my cleanser or a moisture mask. These seem to loosen the flakes to make the cloth work better.
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Wed May 24, 2006 3:33 pm |
| I have another suggestion! (Like you need any more, LOL!) I just tried a sample of PSF's Moisture Mask, and it was just divine! Smells wonderful, very soothing, and I think it would be good for flakiness, too. |
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Wed May 24, 2006 4:03 pm |
| Thanks again to everyone, As an update: I have the Juice Beauty Apple Peel which does help but I only use that 1 time a week because that's all my face can handle. I have actually had this product for a whlie and love it. I have samples of Juice Bueaty Milk cleanser and philosophy's purity cleanser that I got today to try for a more gentle cleanser that won't over dry my face. I am going to try some of your recommendations as far as the mositure mask and a very gentle exfoliator until my face gets more used to the Retin-A because I do think my face will need that with all this other stuff going on with it...but once I do get used to it I would love to try the Pineapple enzyme peel or the PSF pumpkin that I've seen raves about. I got some camellia oil as soon as it was mentioned and it has worked wonderfully! Thank you all again for your help, me and my face appreciate it! |
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Wed May 24, 2006 5:30 pm |
| Nymue wrote: |
Bosoxy made the Ice Elements product really good though! I'm not currently dealing with any peeling at all, and I'm also using the Clarisonic face brush twice daily, and I'm still tempted to try that 2 minute miracle stuff! |
You should so try it! I wish I could get everyone to try it, it is just sooo awesome!
aubloom, Ice Elements also has a cream cleanser for dry skin that does not have the ingredient that makes it foam (having a blank moment here!) so it is really good for your skin and actually is hydrating. It also has the olive derived Squalane as an ingredient and NO water to dilute it... I put on just a bit dry start in small circles on my face and then dampen my fingers with a bit of warm water to spread it all out... It takes a bit to get used to it however if you are dry you will be able to feel the difference. |
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Wed May 24, 2006 6:08 pm |
aubloom - I'm also using retin-a and to deal with the occasional flakies, I may use Dermatological Microfoliant with a wet washcloth to gently scrub. A recent addition to my routine is ROC Peel-ex Radiance mask which I use 2 nights/week. It's very gentle but still effective at removing flakes.  it! |
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Thu May 25, 2006 6:37 am |
| Clinique's 15 minute Total Turnaround Facial is another "rub off" type of masque/exfoliator that gets off flakies really well! It seems very gentle ( believe it or not!) too... I am quite liking it actually! |
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