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Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:00 pm |
I've had mild acne for the past six years or so. Nothing too bad, but it still bothered me quite a bit. I've tried prescription and non-prescription stuff, including some of the highly recommended products on these boards (Dr. Hauschka), none of which worked.
In February I started using the Decleor Ylang Ylang Night Balm/Day Oil and Nicomide Gel, which is a prescription topical B vitamin. It doesn't make my skin red or dry and it's cleared up my small bumps and blackheads and I very rarely get any large pimples anymore.
I've also had a micro-dermabrasion treatment recently, but that's more to try to work on a couple of scars left over and skin tone.
Anyway, I wanted to post and let everyone know about this because almost everyone I've talked to has no idea what Nicomide is. And the Decleor products really, really work for me and they smell lovely and are wonderful to use.
I hope someone else has as much luck with these products as I did! |
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:04 pm |
Hi almagarret, what kind of acne did you get, and mainly which part of your face? The cystic or pustular kind? I'm asking because I was just wondering how effective those products will be with different acne. Also, where can I get Nicomide? Thanks! |
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:30 pm |
yeah where can u get Nicomide? Do u need a prescription for it? Is it suitable for sensitive skin? What exactly does it do to clear ur your face? Sorry for all the questions... thanks!! |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:00 am |
I was curious about Nicomide Gel too so I googled it and here's their website. I guess you don't need an Rx.
http://www.siriuslabs.com/nicomide-t_home.html |
_________________ early-mid 30s || oily-combination, sensitive & acne-prone skin || mild breakouts (Aczone helps a lot) || occasional eczema rashes || fine lines around eyes || very dark under eye cirlces- concealer a must || very fair neutral-warm complexion, blue eyes, blonde hair |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:21 am |
This looked quite good |
_________________ oily/acne prone - acne scars on chin area/Large Pores in winter. Oily in Summer. Fair, nuetral/cool complexion, burn easily. Early 20s |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:09 am |
hm... i checked out the website and read the "how it works" page, but it does not even have any explanation on how this product woks. it just explains how acnes form???
it is not an anitbiotic, so it does not kill the bacteris (like clindamicyn). how does this product actually work?
anybody knows? |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:36 am |
This is from the Nicomide website:
Used as directed, Nicomide-T can help decrease the redness associated with acne blemishes, making them appear less inflamed. It may also help decrease the redness associated with the skin irritation caused by certain prescription and non-prescription acne medications.
I am thinking that this would only work for inflammatory acne since it is designed to reduce inflammation. I don't think that it would cure acne by itself but it sounds like it could take away a lot of the redness and swelling of pimples and make them less noticeable. It also sounds like it can reduce the irritation caused by acne meds. which would allow you to use stuff for your acne with less irritation.
So I can see this having some benefit if you have inflammatory types of acne. |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:30 pm |
roadtonowhere wrote: |
hm... i checked out the website and read the "how it works" page, but it does not even have any explanation on how this product woks. it just explains how acnes form??? |
I noticed this too. Annoying, eh?
I started using Cellex-C Hydra B5 Complex gel about 3 months ago to help heal my existing blemishes and reduce redness overall. I've seen very good results. My skin isn't as irritated and red all over and inflammation of existing pimples are lessened. I am wondering if this Nicamide gel is similar if not more effective than this? I know that it's much cheaper at least.
I was at the derm today and unfortunately she didn't have any samples of the gel or cream but she gave me samples of the oral Nicamide which is supposed to be more potent. So I will give that a try.
From what I understand about this Nicamide gel is that it not only helps inflammed lesions but allows a person who uses other medications to better tolerate side effects and perhaps use more medication to thus provide better treatment results overall, which is nice. It's one thing to have acne in the first place then it's another to have to deal with medication side effects that makes your skin look and feel raw. Know whatta I mean? |
_________________ early-mid 30s || oily-combination, sensitive & acne-prone skin || mild breakouts (Aczone helps a lot) || occasional eczema rashes || fine lines around eyes || very dark under eye cirlces- concealer a must || very fair neutral-warm complexion, blue eyes, blonde hair |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:33 pm |
I had some bigger very noticeable red pimples that would eventually come to a head, but mostly blackheads and small bumps that never worked themselves out.
I was searching for acne remedies online and came across Nicomide on a Web site and asked my doctor for a prescription for it. I get it through drugstore.com. |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:44 pm |
Are you saying that the Nicomide cleared up your blackheads and small bumps or that it cleared up your noticable red pimples? My understanding of the Nicomide is that it would not be effective in clearing up blackheads and small bumps since these are not inflammatory in nature. But I imagine that be reducing irritation it could allow you to use products that would be able to clear up blackheads, etc. Maybe the Decleor is what is really helping with your blackheads?
I am really interested in finding out more about the Nicomide because I do have inflammatory acne and I really have a problem tolerating acne treatments. |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:27 pm |
alright.... maybe i am just really stupid, but i just dont get it. i thought inflammatory is caused by the bacterias. hence, if you want to reduce inflammation you have to kill the bacterias, no???? |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:34 pm |
Inflammation is an immune system response to the bacteria and other foreign invaders. So if you kill the bacteria then there will be nothing to cause an immune system response. Hence no inflammation. So yes killing the bacteria is very effective because it removes what is stimulating the immune system.
Many times inflammation can be excessive so you could also use something to reduce the inflammation itself. The catch here is that you want to reduce the inflammation enough but not disable the immune system so that it cannot properly handle bacteria, etc.
I hope that I am explaining this in a way that makes sense! |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:07 pm |
i think I understand it better now. so basically, this cream/gel reduces the inflammation, but does not kill the bacterias. our own immune system is supposed to kill the bacterias (correct me if i am wrong). thanks theresaL |
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Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:51 pm |
roadtonowhere wrote: |
i think I understand it better now. so basically, this cream/gel reduces the inflammation, but does not kill the bacterias. our own immune system is supposed to kill the bacterias (correct me if i am wrong). thanks theresaL |
I think some medications can still be used to help kill bacteria (i.e. not just letting your immune system fight alone). Of course if you skin sheds properly (like with the help of a retinoid) then acne lesions would be at a minimum anyway thus not allowing as much bacteria to build up in blocked pores.
I had another thought about this Nicamide gel... It would make sense that your other topical meds (like retinoids) used in conjunction with the Nicamide can be more effective because with less inflammation a topical medication can better penetrate and travel deeper into the skin. For instance, you know the "trick" of cooling your face with ice before apply BP. In this case, you are reducing inflammation and thus allowing the medication to better able travel into the pores and skin to therefore be more effective. |
_________________ early-mid 30s || oily-combination, sensitive & acne-prone skin || mild breakouts (Aczone helps a lot) || occasional eczema rashes || fine lines around eyes || very dark under eye cirlces- concealer a must || very fair neutral-warm complexion, blue eyes, blonde hair |
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:05 am |
I had bad acne problem a couple years ago. Before that, I only break out once in a while, not serious. I was so depressed. My friends saw me and said 'Oh, my god. What about to you?' It was really awful. It also left scarring on the my face too. I used all kinds of products. I had facials. And I was still breaking out. Finally, I had my doctor prescribed birth control pill, Diane 35. I took it for 2 months and my acne went away. If I had known earlier, my wouldn't had all those scars on the face. No product had helped me. Maybe it was my hormones that caused the acne. |
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:14 am |
roadtonowhere wrote: |
i think I understand it better now. so basically, this cream/gel reduces the inflammation, but does not kill the bacterias. our own immune system is supposed to kill the bacterias (correct me if i am wrong). thanks theresaL |
In my mind I was not thinking of it in exactly this way but I like the way YOU put it roadtonowhere!
I am interested in the Nicamide because I do not want to use the usual things that are recommended to kill acne causing bacteria (topical antibiotics and benzoyl peroxide). I do use retinoids (Differin) but find that they are not totally sufficient to control my acne and that I need something else. Right now I am going to try Jurlique Herbal Recovery Mist OP and see if this helps but if not I think I will consider trying the Nicamide.
amnis, interesting observation about inflammation and product penetration. It makes sense. |
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Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:53 am |
I'm very interested in this my self.
So can I order this online?
Also just to make it clear. I wash my face with a cleanser, apply this cream and then use a hydrating gel?
Thanks. |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:53 am |
Hi, almagarret
You mentioned having gone for a micro-dermabrasion treatment. How were the results? I have heard a lot of it, is it really that good? Thanks |
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:49 am |
Nicomide then is bascially a gel containing niacin or Vit B? That is also an ingrediant in IS Clinical's poly-vit serum. That is a no-no for those of us with rosacea. Curious how it reduces the redness, since niacin or VIt B promotes flushing. It does speed and promote healing. |
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