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Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:12 pm      Reply with quote
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I am very confused. I used La Roche Posay SPF45 for two weeks and my skin was totally fine, I never broke out. Then I went ahead and bought the SPF 60 (same brand) and had a MAJOR breakout and emotional crisis (see previous desperate post! LOL). So, I stopped the sunscreen. Skin is now beautiful and breakout-free. A few days ago I tested a tiny bit of L'Oreal Ombrelle SPF60 on one tiny side of my forehead, and sure enough, I already notice a blackhead/whitehead whatever coming up.

So, obviously I cannot use either. But I HAVE to use something as I have hyperpigmentation on my forehead and, obviously, it's summer.

I studied the ingredients and they are exactly the same in both brands:
Enzacamene 5%
Titanium Dioxide 4%
Avobenzone (Parasol) 3.5%
Mexoryl 3.3%

What is the culprit here for the breakouts?

I use daily Cetaphil moisturizer with SPF15 which has:
Avobenzone (Parasol) 3%
Octocrylene 10%

and it is totally fine with me.

This is a mystery to me, but I have to get to the bottom of it as I need sunscreen asap in order to survive the summer.

Any thoughts?

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Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:37 pm      Reply with quote
Not sure about Enzacamene, TiO2 is generally considered safe, Avobenzone doesn't seem to be a problem here since Cetaphil spf 15 did not break you out. As far as I know, Mexoryl could be an irritant for some people. Maybe you could try a physical SS first to make sure TiO2 doesn't break you out? Or at least try to avoid Mexoryl.
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Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:27 pm      Reply with quote
Hmm...can't seem to edit my post. Anyways, I was thinking of trying these two sunscreens to see what happens....anyone in my situation who has used these with good acne-free, clogged-pore-free results?
Avene spf 50 (11% TiO2, 2.4% ZnO)
ROC Minesol spf 40 (10.55% TiO2, 3% ZnO)

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:11 am      Reply with quote
Hi Pele

I'm not an acne sufferer, but I have tried both these SS. I think the Avene would be more acceptable, though it's kind of pink. I found the Minesol extremely thick and tacky.

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:41 am      Reply with quote
I'm extremely sensitive to chemical sunscreens (will get breaks outs, rashes, flushing, etc from them), so I pretty much have to stick to only zinc or titanium dioxide. BUT since I also have oily, acne-prone skin, this is difficult because I've noticed that a lot of the non-chemical sunscreens on the market are shiny and sticky, argh!!! So, far, the only non-chemical sunscreens I've used that have caused NO reaction are Clarins UV PLus SPF 40 and Colorscience Sunforgettable translucent powder. HTH!

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:26 pm      Reply with quote
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I'm extremely sensitive to chemical sunscreens (will get breaks outs, rashes, flushing, etc from them), so I pretty much have to stick to only zinc or titanium dioxide. BUT since I also have oily, acne-prone skin, this is difficult because I've noticed that a lot of the non-chemical sunscreens on the market are shiny and sticky, argh!!! So, far, the only non-chemical sunscreens I've used that have caused NO reaction are Clarins UV PLus SPF 40 and Colorscience Sunforgettable translucent powder. HTH!


Have you tried Avene or ROC?

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:33 pm      Reply with quote
Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with either of those. Sorry! Embarassed

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:15 pm      Reply with quote
Hi pele - I use Avene Spray SPF50+ during hot, humid weather and it's never caused any acne issues. It has a whitish cast at first but then blends in after a while. It's very lighweight but still a bit oily. The shine fades after a while but at first it's quite pronounced. But then I always layer it over a Vit.C serum which is also a bit sticky, so perhaps if applied directly on clean skin it may be less oily looking. I use Avene Creme SPF50+ in winter which is much richer and has a slight pinkish cast at first, but this is way too heavy for summer use. One thing I really like about the Avene products I've tried is that they don't contain alcohol like many other sunscreens, and therefore don't cause stinging, burning, watery eyes. In fact, I find the Spray to be quite soothing especially when my skin is irritated from over-use of acids or retinoids. But your skin may simply have trouble with oilier sunscreens rather than any particular active ingredient.
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:33 pm      Reply with quote
m.april wrote:
But your skin may simply have trouble with oilier sunscreens rather than any particular active ingredient.


Hmm...you could be right. I wonder. Well, what's a good non-oily one to try then?

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Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:12 pm      Reply with quote
Hi pele - betterat40 has recommended LRP DermoPediatrics SPF40 spray as being matte. Someone I know who uses it agrees. I haven't tried it because I generally wear makeup (which contains ingredients that destabilize the active ingredient in LRP products). When I go without makeup, I use LRP Fluide Extreme SPF50+. It's kind of oily too, but it's sheer. The sheen lets up a bit over time though. It contains alcohol so it stings a little.

But bear with me. I have a sample of Avene Emulsion SPF50+ which is supposed to be less oily. I haven't used it yet (waiting for REALLY humid weather) but the forecast for this coming weekend looks like a good time to finally give it a try! I'll let you know what I think of it next week.
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Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:54 pm      Reply with quote
m.april wrote:
Hi pele - betterat40 has recommended LRP DermoPediatrics SPF40 spray as being matte. Someone I know who uses it agrees. I haven't tried it because I generally wear makeup (which contains ingredients that destabilize the active ingredient in LRP products). When I go without makeup, I use LRP Fluide Extreme SPF50+. It's kind of oily too, but it's sheer. The sheen lets up a bit over time though. It contains alcohol so it stings a little.

But bear with me. I have a sample of Avene Emulsion SPF50+ which is supposed to be less oily. I haven't used it yet (waiting for REALLY humid weather) but the forecast for this coming weekend looks like a good time to finally give it a try! I'll let you know what I think of it next week.


Thank you!! yeah - try it soon Very Happy
What does LRP stand for? La Roche Posay?

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Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:19 am      Reply with quote
Hi again pele - I tried the Avene Emulsion. It was less oily than the Spray but still left a sheen on my face. Nevertheless, I didn't have to use as much Smashbox Anti Shine Anti Brilliance to tone it down as I do with the Spray.

The bottom line is that it isn't exactly matte.
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:37 am      Reply with quote
Hi Pele,

I went through a similar saga a few weeks ago and got some great advice re: physical sunblocks from MSLiz (thanks!).

Got myself a trial tube of Clarins SPF 40 and have been using it happily without incident. If you need a bit of moisture, be forewarned, you must supply it yourself. The Clarins product is more like a sheer veil once applied and dryish areas are accentuated. I will be using a few drops PSF balancing oil to work this out.
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