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Does anyone know where to find the ingredient lists for Eminence products? Some re-seller site have it at all?

Their site is completely useless to me. They don't list their ingredients anywhere. I don't want to just know which 2 or 3 ingredients they think are important out of like 50 probably. Nor does it say even what % is organic etc. The products look great, but without knowing what is in them they might as well not exist in my eyes. Cause I would never pay that much for products not knowing what was in them, pay shipping etc. just to throw the dice and 'hope' that I like the ingredients when the box arrives. How could they market to the natural/organic crowd without ingredient lists? The very crowd who actually cares about what ingredients are in the products they buy and what to avoid. That's so insane. I've only seen pseudo natural lines do that cause they have a lot to hide. Is Eminence one of those or are they the real deal?

Anyone who uses them how do you like them?

Also, maybe someone who has their products can list the full ingredient list of what they have? Thanks.
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Eminence is NOT organic. Their advertising says that they are organic, but if you read their ingredients you will see that they use zero percent organic ingredients. Their ingredient decks are very tricky and misleading. For example, they list an ingredient called Germall or Germaben on their ingredient decks. These are a brand name for synthetic preservatives called methylparaben and Propylparaben. The personal care industry is highly unregulated and it is hard to find lines that are what they say they are.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:17 pm Reply with quoteQuote
If you are looking for natural products I have found that, as a rule of thumb, if they don't list their ingredients they are not natural. They just throw in a few "herbal" sounding ingredients to make it sound natural. "Ooh they have wheatgerm it MUST be good!!" Wink
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This is turning into an interesting thread!
First of all, I agree that Eminence is not at all organic, and I have even read somewhere on this site that it has been suggested they are just a copy of the original Hungarian range Ilcsi, but lets not get into that.

I can really emphatize with your frustration here, it drives me mad that these completely natural ranges don't list their ingredients. Then you go through the trouble of sending them an e mail just to find out that they will not give you the full ingredient list. The most exotic answer I ever got was that the lead scientist would not provide an ingredient list because he chose the ingredients based on their frequencies...

Thanks, Lucinda, for the info on Germoll, I just received an all natural organic paraben free range which features Germoll on the ingredient list Mad Which company to trust? I just can't find an organic brand that is the real deal but does not contain any beeswax or lanolin...
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:42 pm Reply with quoteQuote
He chose ingredients based on their FREQUENCIES?? And why does that mean he can't tell you? That's crazy - what line was line?
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:51 pm Reply with quoteQuote
chimera wrote:
He chose ingredients based on their FREQUENCIES?? And why does that mean he can't tell you? That's crazy - what line was line?


I know!!! I was really shocked and instantly posed the question: He surely must still know what he is putting into the cream? In spite of my persistence - the ingredients were never revealed, but they told me more about the very special background of the company. I just could not figure out what to believe and never ordered from: Zenbiotic.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:12 pm Reply with quoteQuote
I have a few Eminence products, mostly masques and serums, and do not see "Germall" listed on any of the ingredients. Which product, in particular, were you interested in? I can see if I have it and then type out the ingredients from the label for you.

Here are the ingredients for two masques that I have:

Stone Crop Masque
Stone Crop, Stone Crop Juice, Aloe, Honey, Bioflavonoids, Natural Moisturizing Factor, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Biocomplex™ (Vitamin A, Esther C, Vitamin E, Coenzyme Q10, Alpha Lipoic Acid), Xanthan Gum, Vitamin B5 from Soy, Lavender Oil, Lemon Oil, Chlorophyl, Glycerin, Glycine Derivative.

Pumpkin & Orange Masque
Pumpkin, Orange, Orange Juice, Honey, Bioflavonoids, Natural Moisturizing Factor, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Red Clover, Corn Extract, Biocomplex™ (Vitamin A, Esther C, Vitamin E, Coenzyme Q10, Alpha Lipoic Acid), Natural Cream Base, Salicylic Acid, Xanthan Gum, Orange Oil, Glycine Derivative, Glycerin.

I really love the smell and the pulpy feel.
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Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:22 pm Reply with quoteQuote
None of these ingredients are organic, if this matters to you. Not all of Eminence products use Germall...but they do hide their true ingredients by useing words such as "Moisturizing Factor", as well as "Natural Creme Base". Not only is this illegal according to the FDA regulations for labeling personal care ingredients, but it is a great way to "hide" certain ingredients that do not support your marketing claims. I would rather make my own product or support a company that is at least honest about what they are selling.

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Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:43 pm Reply with quoteQuote
In Canada, where I believe Eminence is packaged, there is no legal law for ingredients to be listed. However, in November all products need to have their ingredients on them, so they will have to 'reveal all'!
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I believe almost all their products are packaged in Hungary not Canada and I know they don't use parabens, fragrance or sodium lauryl sulphates which I am happy about. (thinkbeforeyoupink.org/Pages/Resources.html) I don't know that much about the ins and outs of organic skin care but in my comparison of various 'organic', 'holistic' or 'natural' lines, I often do not see all ingredients listed as 'organic'. Maybe I am not looking in the right spot, but some, like Dr H say that they use "biodynamic" plants and cultivation and that if they "are unable to obtain an ingredient Biodynamically, we'll make sure that it's organically and ethically obtained." Is 'biodynamic' another word for organic?
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Biodynamic is one step better than organic!
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Havana8, I really could be wrong, but I do believe that at least under Eminence's previous manufacturer the products were 'made' in Hungary but 'packaged' in canada.
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I asked the esthetician at my salon about it since they have carried Éminence products for years and she called them directly to ask. Apparently their products are both handmade and packaged in Hungary before shipping. I was kind of relieved as I really like my masques. I see what you are saying about 'before' though. I think I might see if she can ask again just to be certain.
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