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Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:41 pm |
Okay, I know I have a few more pounds to lose, afterall I just had a baby 3 and a half months ago , but I am getting so upset these days when going clothes shopping...it seems to me that a large size shirt is more like a small. Now is it me or are the clothing manufacturers using less fabric? Please tell me that I'm not alone in this, I'm feeling very sad that I can't find anything the fits me anymore I'll be glad when summer is over so that I can go back to wearing my "fat" winter clothes. |
_________________ PROUD FTM @ 40 TO CARTER-BORN APRIL 12, 2006...Sensitive dry skintype...prone to excema |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:00 pm |
moosette,
I don't know where you are located. Here in the US, lots of stores are using vanity sizing. If other words, they are actually increasing the measurements but downgrading the size numbers. Ann Taylor and Banana Republic are really bad at vanity sizing. I had a few items in Ann Taylor from years ago that are size 2 and 4 and I couldn't fit into them anymore. However when I go to Ann Taylor nowaday, their size 0 is too big...what gives!?
Sorry as this post doesn't address your question. I hope both us find clothing that fits. Shopping can be a frustrating experience
Btw, congrats on your new baby! |
_________________ ~~ super-sensitive, dry, dermatitis prone, rosacea/northern calif ~~ |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:46 pm |
I work in a used clothing store, so I am in contact with various US sizes and brand names every day (as all of our merchandise comes from the States).
I wholly agree. The discrepency between every brand and even some lines of one brand is just mind blowing. By the way, with this problem, I can take either a size 6 to a size 11. This is crazy, as my true comfortable size is 7, and it makes buying clothes frustrating. Especially if you think you're one size and then discovering you take 2 sizes bigger, it's discouraging and misleading.
I don't know why...everyone can't get together and agree on a consistent set of measurements :P My upper body is petite, whereas my legs are quite long. I like showing my belly so I can usually slip into those slinky and amazingly small camis and halter tops without too much effort, but GEEZ it's even getting way too bad for me. I picked up a size Large (Abercrombie and Fitch, I believe) cami today at work and it would have fit me when I was 8! I couldn't believe it. Not all of us are 5'0 and 95 pounds soaking wet.
Although I don't have too much trouble with sizes (I know what brands are my comfort zone and what aren't), I find it very discouraging that labels keep getting smaller and smaller- while the media's emphasis is that you have to be tiny and skinny to be beautiful. It's so hard to combat when clothes are being made like this. |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:55 pm |
Oh good! I thought it was just me <whew!> <reaches for a third Krispy Creme....> |
_________________ 40. Routine: OCM, ThayersRoseToner as needed, Dr. Denese Dream Cream and Eye Cream |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:05 pm |
moosette, are you mostly shopping for casual clothing or business attire? The reason I ask is that I've noticed differences in sizing between the two, even within the same manufacturer. For example, I buy a lot of my clothing from J. Crew. The size that fits me perfectly--maybe even runs a little small--in their casual lines, is generally just a little too big in their suiting. It's like they assume they have two entirely separate target audiences for casual vs. business.
I've wondered whether they assume that someone who's buying a suit is maybe a little older and a little heavier than someone buying, say, a cargo skirt. That strikes me as not only ridiculous--who wears a suit 24 hours a day?--but thoroughly patronizing. |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:42 pm |
Dress sizes are also way out of whack, I've noticed. They run high, they run low. They're very inconsistent and don't stay true to the size 0-16 (for example) number size that one is used to in pants and shirts. |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:14 pm |
I live in Canada and I went into the local Walmart to pick up a few summer T's and some shorts because its been so flippin hot here and I'm dying! I didn't even try the tops on because just by looking at the large I doubt it would have even fit my 11 year old niece! Same goes for when I go to the city and shop the malls...Mariposa for instance the clothes are ridiculiously tiny...I think they are geared for teenie tiny teenyboppers not full fiqured 40ish women like myself! I used to like a store called BOCA clothing...they made really comfy casual wear, but it has since closed down. They do sell the Boca line at Sears, but I find that they too now have gotten cheap with their fabric.
I also find that everything is so form fitting, spandexy material is popular right now...well this girl is not wearing any kind of spandex on her post partum body!!
And I refuse to shop the plus size section of any store...so I guess I'll just go naked for the rest of the summer!
Thats my vent for the day...I feel better now! |
_________________ PROUD FTM @ 40 TO CARTER-BORN APRIL 12, 2006...Sensitive dry skintype...prone to excema |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:16 pm |
Just a note on sizing...have you ever tried on wedding gowns? I felt like a whale in 2004 when I had to buy a wedding gown that was 3 sizes bigger than I normally would have took, it was a frustrating day |
_________________ PROUD FTM @ 40 TO CARTER-BORN APRIL 12, 2006...Sensitive dry skintype...prone to excema |
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Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:42 pm |
Oh, I'm so sorry moosette! I can only imagine your pain since I have yet to even try on a wedding gown.
And to everyone else, I also have found that shopping this summer has been hard. I really need to get some jeans and such but the sizing is so weird jean to jean, that I cant even figure out what size I am anymore. A year ago, I got a pair of Silver brand jeans in size 27/33. They fit like a glove! Now this summer, when I went to the store to try that size Silver jean on again, it doesn't fit at all! I know I haven't gained that much weight in the winter. So, I'm feeling highly sad and depressed and am now waiting to steadily drop a few pounds hoping it will help . |
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Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:13 am |
If I had a clothes line, it would be mid-priced to high (not designer prices though) and I would make a size 10 & call it a 4, a 12 & call it a 6, a 14 & call it an 8 and so on. I just got a formal dress & the size made me want to barf. I've been dieting & working out like crazy. The store said that this particular line ran small . I would rather that the company lied on it's size tag - I wouldn't mind a bit. |
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Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:43 am |
I feel there's a lot of companies doing just that, labelling size 10 as 6. Makes it difficult to shop, and if you have an "end" size, almost impossible to find clothes. I find in many brands I am different sizes, sometimes in the same brand I am too big or too small for the same size, but in different styles. Frustrating. |
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:26 am |
yeah, it depends on the manufacturer and also on the style of clothing. |
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:15 am |
I drive my poor husband crazy every time I go shopping and come home complaining about sizing. I just went through my closet and tried on everything and got rid of alot of stuff that didn't fit, was really old, etc. What I was left with was a very confusing mix of size 4 up thru size 12. That's quite a range and it all fit me the same within the space of a few hours. I think they are trying to drive us crazy! |
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:29 pm |
They are not making clothes smaller these days in fact the opposite is true. Here in Europe they have redone sizes so that what used to be "small" is now actually a "medium" size even though it still says small on the tag. In the US I read an article that the same had happened there. That what used to be an 8 or 10 is now what (years ago) was considered a 12 or 14.
There is a difference between brands and designers so what one might wear from one company might not be the same size from another but overall the size of the garments have increased even if the number stays the same.
Also even within a brand sometimes they switch manufactors so it is possible the item would feel and fit differently than before. |
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Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:30 am |
i have noticed that too! when i was thinner in my college days, i wore a size 6 at the Limited, and now that i am 10 pounds heavier, i wear a Limited size 4. definitely something fishy. i read an article about vanity sizing and they say the public are just willing to shut their eyes and think they've gotten smaller.
and i have also had it with bigger women who claim to be the same size as marilyn monroe! i am kinda a marilyn junkie and i keep hearing everyone say she is a size 16. yes, she was at her biggest a size 16, but that was back in the 50s, a size 16 then is certainly not a size 16 now. throughout her career, she was between current sizes of 4 to 8. |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:19 am |
deanne123 wrote: |
Oh good! I thought it was just me <whew!> <reaches for a third Krispy Creme....> |
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_________________ Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so, too. ~ Voltaire www.Candessence.com |
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:37 am |
We better just laugh about the sizes differences, that's what I do.
This ridiculous size 0, that I have bought a few times is identical to my size 5 dresses that I kept in my closet for the past 20 years!
This marketing strategy is a little ofensive to us women. Would you buy it if the tag reads 2 sizes smaller than what you normally wear? |
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:21 am |
Thank you Candy! I was thinking I offended someone. Hehe
Syllie: Yes, I would buy a item sized two sizes down. I'd also celebrate by eating at McDonalds!
We are so obsessed with our body size (let's not discuss skin issues!) that the tag number seems more important than the fit or style. I went shopping with my Mother and trying to get her to wear the correct size was like entering a war zone. She would refuse to even try on anything larger than a 14. She is 5'3 and had back surgery earlier this year. She has put on a significant amount of weight and raiding my Dad's clothes (6'2). She just looks bigger wearing his clothes, but she won't hear it and I would need a jeep with winch to drag her into a Woman's World or Lane Bryant store! It kills me because she could look better and feel better if she would let go of her idea of beauty being small.
FYI: She was always a small woman who was active until her 40's when she got hurt. She has struggled with her weight since, but nothing I say will convince her that she should give up on the 115-120 range she had and just be happy with herself now (she is late 50's). I have tried to show her that it is better to have clothes that fit and look flattering on than worry about the number on the tag. If I told her about vanity sizing I think she'd go postal at the nearest mall.
I don't think it helps that my kid sister is still at home and she is bean pole skinny. She is in high school and uber tall. <sidenote: I am 5'2 and really, anything over 5'5 to me is tall> She is that Paris Hilton skinny that comes with being young. I don't think it is flattering, but I hear its the rage with all the young folks.
I don't think this skinny=beauty thing is so attractive, but I'm short and have an athletic build so it could just be a defense mechanism of my pyche (spelling?).
Besides, I tell people the truth. I'm a fat girl waiting to happen. I hate diet sodas, I love love love McDonalds, I ALWAYS have the fake butter on my popcorn, I buy real butter, and I eat bacon for breakfast every chance I get. I drink coffee with half and half and use real sugar to sweetin it up. If my arteries aren't clogged by the time I hit 40, then I'm doing something wrong. I have a high stress, active, and at times dangerous job. I exercise alot (not because I like it...). When I retire, I plan on embracing my chubbiness with open arms. I'll happily cram that last powdered donut hole into my pie hole, leaving white dust on my butt as I brush off my fingers, to shop in the Short, Fat, and Happy store. By that time (if vanity sizes continue), I'll look fabu in a size 10 (bahahahaha)! |
_________________ 40. Routine: OCM, ThayersRoseToner as needed, Dr. Denese Dream Cream and Eye Cream |
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:25 am |
I think some women would be more inclined to buy a piece of clothing if it was a smaller size. Women in general, are vane and we want to look good and make ourselves feel better. |
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:01 pm |
I thought it was just me... I keep wearing smaller and smaller sized clothes. What worries me, on the other end of things is that if they get much smaller, I'm not gonna be able to find clothes at all. I'm really small framed, but there was a time when I could barely squeeze into a Bananna Republic 0. Now they almost fall off of me. ...So in a few years, I'm gonna have to have everything altered??? No fair. I want to wear all these cute clothes too! I honestly don't see why it matters what size they are!! It's the same thing with weight. Who cares, as long as you look good?? |
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wulfie
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:39 am |
The whole vanity sizing / label issue really frustrates me.............. I live in the UK and am used to certian clothing stores products being different sizes to others LOL I used to known what 'size' fitted me in any particular store.
However, this has now all changed and I am getting really annoyed with having to try everything on all the time Grrrrrrrr The most frustrating thing of all it that in some stores I can no longer find stuff small enough to fit me |
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:08 pm |
i think women's sizes should be by inches or centimeters all this ridiculousness with shrinking the sizes is too silly and not healthy. though i am sure most people know when they've gotten a bit heavier! |
_________________ about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:27 pm |
That's a great idea, skincareaddicted! I have never had trouble buying for a man because all you need to know are a few measurements! If we had waist. hip, and inseam measurements, we'd be able to shop so much easier! We should revolt! |
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Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:17 pm |
The vanity sizing drives me nuts - I feel insulted, I am not an idiot, I know that I didn't magically shrink . Banana Republic has to be the worst culprit.
At the same time, my own vanity would probably prevent me from buying a size that was outside my comfort zone (yes, I realize it sounds stupid, body image, blah, blah, blah, but, I'm being honest, and I'm not completely hung up on my size, I just have to be in ok shape, being bigger would mean that I really wasn't, especially since I feel border line right now). If I went up a few sizes, I would probably buy one or two things at BR to tide me over, and get my butt into the gym until the weight came off. |
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