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Wed May 28, 2008 4:35 pm  |
| Winnie wrote: |
| AJRN, I also found the Pure Silk Serum applied prior to using my SP is an amazing combination. I did not know this products was formulated by AT. |
What is this product and where do you get it 
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Wed May 28, 2008 4:38 pm |
| Does this product work on acne and acne scars? Not major acne scarring, but just some depressions in the skin? |
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Thu May 29, 2008 6:47 am |
Winnie, I called and spoke to Alex about this product after reading up on it at the site and that is what he told me if I am not mistaken. He said it was not necessary to use it that I could do the treatments on cleansed face--he was not pushy at all.
Toby and Maria, the product is an anti aging serum that has hyaluronic serum along with copper peptides and is very light weight and is abosrbed well into the skin--wait a couple minutes before doing your Quasar Treatment. Call their customer service or email them and I am sure they will be glad to answer your questions about it. www.QuasarPro.com |
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Fri May 30, 2008 4:31 am |
I copied this from the Quasar website which was listed under treatments and the Pure Silk Serum is listed under products: INTERESTING!!
As we age, our skin becomes naturally thinner, loses moisture, and becomes less elastic. The age at which this naturally occurs varies and is genetic in origin. Some of us will appear to age more slowly due to the genetic gift of our parents. Others will age more quickly and may look older than their actual years.
COLLAGEN AND HYALURONEN
Two of the main factors in aging skin are diminished collagen and hyaluronen, also called hyaluronic acid. Collagen is a large, moist molecule which when combined with elastin and hyaluronen represent the building blocks of young looking and healthy skin. The body naturally reduces the production of collagen as we enter the 50's and 60's. Without the collagen and hyaluronen, the skin becomes less supple and elastic, it thins, and color changes take place. The result is an increase in lines, wrinkles, enlarged pores, age spots (hyper pigmentation) and lax skin.
Perhaps the largest component of skin damage in the baby boomers is sun damage. Baby boomers may be the first significant group of individuals to deliberately expose their skin to large doses of sunlight from an early age. Physicians now report that the sun damage seen by many of those who are now in their 40's, 50's, and 60's is a result of early overexposure to the sun - mainly in the teenage years. Early exposure to the sun exacerbates the natural changes which occur later in life - particularly reducing hyaluronen in the epidermus - making the person appear older than he or she is chronologically. Medical studies have also shown cigarette smoking as another culprit in skin damage.
Recent developments in skin care technology have made great strides in correcting the flaws resulting from sun damage to the skin. Light therapy has emerged as a principle treatment methodology for aestheticians and skin care practitioners. Its popularity derives from its ease of application and pain free treatment. It combines perfectly with all other types of treatment including ablative techniques such as microdermabrasion. Spas can purchase powerful, safe, and effective equipment at a modest cost, allowing profitable operation.
Unlike other “serious skin care” treatments, led light therapy does not injure the skin and will not lead to scar tissue buildup over time. When used after ablative treatments, light therapy can actually help reduce the “burn” as well as produce “smooth” collagen which reduces the potential for scarring.
QUASAR LIGHT THERAPY TREATMENT PROTOCOL
The Quasar anti-aging light therapy protocol begins with a clean face and application of our Pure Silk HACP10 hyaluronic serum. This low molecular weight serum is specifically formulated for light therapy treatment. When combined with light therapy you will get the ultimate in anti-aging results by building both collagen and hyaluronic acid in the skin.
After applying the hyaluronic acid, wait one minute to begin the application of light therapy. Whether using our hand held Quasar SP directly on the skin or the TriPanel stand-off equipment, the goal is to get between four and eight joules of light into the skin to start the therapeutic effect. Remember that with the hand held equipment such as the Quasar SP, the light is applied directly to the skin and better penetration is achieved. Typically, one would apply four minutes of light into each area of the skin being treated at the high pulse mode. If using the Maestro TriPanel, one would apply eight minutes of light.
A skin care specialist can reduce the treatment time by about half by utilizing two Quasar SP’s or two Maestro red/infrared wands. Treatments should be continued weekly for about six weeks to achieve maximum benefit.
LOOKING FOR RESULTS
No alternative skin care treatment can produce such healthy, attractive looking skin with moderately long term benefits. When looking for results, keep in mind that for about 15% of clients, the results will be immediate and dramatic. For another 80%, the results are seen more gradually. About 5% of those treated are refractory to this type of treatment.
Quasar Light therapy produces results from the inside out, not outside in as with peels or microderm. Usually the changes are more subtle and gradual. If you are taking pictures, take them before the treatment, not after. Always use the same lighting. Here are some tips to help you see results and explain results to your clients.
1. From a foot to several feet away, you will see smoother and healthier looking skin. The color will be better and more even. Typically, the skin will have a more rosier complexion. It is amazing what increased blood flow and circulation can do for skin. Since this change is gradual, it may be difficult for the client or aesthetician to see. Frequently, it is friends or others who only see the client occasionally who first notice the difference.
2. Press against the skin and see the fine lines that result from sun damage disappear. By increasing the moisture in the skin, the combination of light therapy and hyaluronic acid add body and firmness. Deeper lines and folds soften and appear less noticeable.
3. Clients with hyper pigmentation (age spots) can be difficult to treat without using heat based lasers and similar equipment. Ablative treatments are not fully effective. To be maximally effective, light therapy must be combined with a high quality pigment lightener. Although there are questions, the hydroquinone based products remain the most effective. That is also true when using light therapy to reduce age spots. The Quasar red therapy will assist the pigment lightener and accelerate the break up of pigment. Always test the product first, however, since many are sensitive to hydroquinone based products.
Finally, remember that light therapy works from the inside out. By stimulating the cells within and beneath the skin, we enable a cascading series of positive events in the skin which include increasing collagen, hyaluronic acid, and elastin. For most clients, these changes are not immediate and they have to be prepared to be a little patient. If they are patient, however, they will benefit by having the healthiest and most beautiful skin. |
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Sat May 31, 2008 6:55 am |
Hi guys,
For those of you who bought your BQs approximately 1.5 yr ago (December 2006 - January 2007) - do you know if those BQs have amber light?
I bought mine in January 2007 and i don't think it has any amber light. I exchanged e-mails with Peter from Quasar Pro, and he says my unit likely has amber light. I can't see it, so I wanted to ask if any of you know where to look for it.
Thanks, R.  |
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Sat May 31, 2008 8:41 am |
| I bought mine back then and I assumed it did. Am I wrong? |
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Sat May 31, 2008 3:30 pm |
| So Annie - Hi!!!! Just want to verify........you are using the baby Quasar now? How about the Dermaroller? |
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Sat May 31, 2008 3:51 pm |
| AnnieR wrote: |
| I bought mine back then and I assumed it did. Am I wrong? |
According to Peter, our units should have amber light. It's just that I can't see it, and I am assuming that I should be able to see it. I am having an e-mail conversation with Peter re this, so I will let you know what he says (likely on Monday, as they are closed today). |
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:03 am |
| I use the Baby Q about every 7-10 days and never right after the dermaroller. I haven't rolled in a couple of weeks as I have had a lot of weekend company and too much scheduled to do in between. I will soon though! |
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:16 am |
rubby wrote:
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| According to Peter, our units should have amber light. It's just that I can't see it, and I am assuming that I should be able to see it. I am having an e-mail conversation with Peter re this, so I will let you know what he says (likely on Monday, as they are closed today). |
It's my understanding that the Quasar products do not at this point in time (which means also their past products) have what is considered the amber wavelength (can't remember the exact number). I read in one of these threads that someone from Quasar said something to another customer about having "amber-ish" wavelengths, but IMO that's a cop-out and a misleading statement. It's either amber or it's not. Bear in mind when I say that that I own a Quasar SP and love it. Wouldn't trade it. However, to try and split hairs like that when people are seeking info isn't right, in my book. I'm going to come out and say that my understanding is that the Quasars at this point in time do not have the amber wavelength. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!
Hopefully they'll add amber in the future. |
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:32 am |
| Yubs wrote: |
It's my understanding that the Quasar products do not at this point in time (which means also their past products) have what is considered the amber wavelength (can't remember the exact number). I read in one of these threads that someone from Quasar said something to another customer about having "amber-ish" wavelengths, but IMO that's a cop-out and a misleading statement. It's either amber or it's not. Bear in mind when I say that that I own a Quasar SP and love it. Wouldn't trade it. However, to try and split hairs like that when people are seeking info isn't right, in my book. I'm going to come out and say that my understanding is that the Quasars at this point in time do not have the amber wavelength. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong!
Hopefully they'll add amber in the future. |
That is my understanding as well. I too have the Quasar SP.
I too hope they add the amber wavelength as it seems to have positive anti-aging results. The company has good customer service - I'm hoping they will allow past customers to upgrade to the mixed lights if they start producing them. They have done upgrade discounts, etc. in the past with people who started out with Baby Quasars who wanted to up to the Quasar SP. |
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Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:04 am |
Here is what MACrisis said about the Quasars and amber:
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Maybe, as James said, "Technically 632 is amber(ish)" But from my eyes (I know they're not as good as when I was in my 20's), when I turn on Prolight Platinum with 590nm, it is AMBER and Quasar is RED. I have a custom made 632nm LED machine, It's very bright, but when you see it you'll say it's RED not amber. And 632nm - 590nm = 42nm. That made a big difference in wavelength.
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=365468&highlight=amber#365468
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| MACrisis wrote: |
| If Anti-Aging LightStim used 600nm then it's Amber enough. Prolight used 590nm. Most LEDs has +-10nm tolerance. When Prolight Platinum is on, You can see Red, Amber. But when Quasar is on you see maybe different shades of Red (632nm, 660nm)but definitely NOT Amber |
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Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:10 pm |
Hi,
I am a new member on EDS and read quite some details abt Baby Quasar.
I have pigmentation and am too photo sensitive.
Also have had dark circles problem for many years. Is BQ suitable for me to overcome these problem areas. I read abt Red/Infrared/Amber LEDs etc..Does BQ have the right wavelengths for my problem.
Appreciate your advise.. |
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glittergirly
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Joined: 14 May 2008
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Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:43 am |
Hi,
I wasn't sure if I successfully posted this somewhere else but has anyone tried the Baby Blue Quasar yet? |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:58 am |
My attention was just drawn to this thread and I’m sorry that I did not see it before. There seems to be a lot of information about our Baby Quasar and the color of our leds and some of that information may be inaccurate. Hopefully, this will answer all the questions and set the facts straight.
Baby Quasars, similar to our professional models, have four wavelengths of light in the red and infrared range. For years we have called the lower red led “amber/red” because it looks yellowish red when compared to the higher wavelength red also used in the Quasars.
More recently some led manufacturers have begun to call their 590 nm yellow leds “amber”. Other manufactures call their leds in the 600 range “amber” as well. The problem with naming occurs when there is no industry standard for naming.
Technically, amber is fossilized tree sap and the colors range from whitish yellow to very deep reddish yellow. Sometimes even the color blue is observed. Amber is not a specific wavelength or color on the color chart, yellow is. We call 590 nm, “yellow” which is on the color chart and this reduces confusion regarding colors.
The Quasars do not use yellow leds because there is no clinical evidence that yellow light adds anything that red/infrared does not already provide. One manufacturer selected yellow for their device and it may be that their clinical trials showed real skin care benefit. But we do not know for sure because there are no published comparative clinical trials of which I am aware which demonstrate superiority of one over the other.
When testing was first undertaken with the Quasars back in 1983, a number of different led combinations were tried. The current combination of four wavelengths of red and infrared were found to be the most effective for anti-aging skin care. Over the years we have had anecdotal reports from estheticians about comparisons with yellow light in devices compared with red/infrared and in no case have we have any reports of superior results with the yellow. This is not scientific, however, and we continue to look at all wavelengths of light with the intention of making the Quasars better if possible. Keep in mind that we are FDA registered and a change in led wavelengths will have to be justified.
Quasar Light Therapy is presently undertaking clinical trials looking at not only our current selection of wavelengths but also how these perform on a number of different conditions. If and when we determine that better light wavelengths are available through clinical trials, we will seek new FDA acceptance and bring them to market.
Please feel free to call or email with any questions.
Peter Nesbitt
Quasar Light Therapy
(800) 944-1523 |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:49 am |
| Advanced Therapeutics wrote: |
| When testing was first undertaken with the Quasars back in 1983, a number of different led combinations were tried. The current combination of four wavelengths of red and infrared were found to be the most effective for anti-aging skin care. |
Peter, we would love to see copies of these clinicals. |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:49 am |
That is 2003 when testing was done, not 1983 as I said in the previous post. Sorry for the mistake.
Peter |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:52 am |
| Advanced Therapeutics wrote: |
That is 2003 when testing was done, not 1983 as I said in the previous post. Sorry for the mistake.
Peter |
That's even better! |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:02 pm |
I received mine almost a week ago, and have done 3 treatments. I can definitely see a reduction in crow's feet and a general "plumping" of the skin.
A minor rant: The directions are terrible, hard to understand and on several pages. I recommend a coated card with simple directions, that can be kept with the BQ. |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:36 pm |
| Peter, are you saying there may be a new and improved device on the horizon? yeeks!! Maybe I should have waited since spending the 1800.00 plus that I spent on the Qusar Pro!! Please respond. |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:40 pm |
| AJRN wrote: |
| Peter, are you saying there may be a new and improved device on the horizon? yeeks!! Maybe I should have waited since spending the 1800.00 plus that I spent on the Qusar Pro!! Please respond. |
The Quasar Pro costs $1,800? Wow, why so much? |
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:19 pm |
| that is what I paid 1 1/2 years ago. It is an excellent product---love the results that I get from it but from after hearing what Peter wrote, just wanted some answers. JUST WANT an ANSWER PETER!!! |
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Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:26 am |
To any and all who wish to discuss Quasar products including new products and possible upgrades, please contact us directly. This is a user forum, not a place for us to advertise or promote our products. Please do not ask me to respond here, my previous reply was to correct a misunderstanding and lay out some facts.
My Best,
Peter
Quasar Light Therapy
(800) 944-1523
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:03 am |
| Advanced Therapeutics wrote: |
The Quasars do not use yellow leds because there is no clinical evidence that yellow light adds anything that red/infrared does not already provide. One manufacturer selected yellow for their device and it may be that their clinical trials showed real skin care benefit. But we do not know for sure because there are no published comparative clinical trials of which I am aware which demonstrate superiority of one over the other.
Peter Nesbitt
Quasar Light Therapy
(800) 944-1523 |
This study on Pub Med confirms just what you said Peter. Awesome!
As a user of two seperate devices, one of which contains amber wavelength, I would just like to offer, that the addition of the amber addressed pigmentation issues, which the red + infrared did not *altogether*. So for those dealing with hyper-pigmentation issues, having a device that included amber, might be the best of both worlds.
I bet the gals here who love and use the BQ, and QSP, would love to have an option that included the amber diodes... 
Here's the study:
Light-emitting diodes (LEDs) are considered to be effective in skin rejuvenation. We investigated the clinical efficacy of LED phototherapy for skin rejuvenation through the comparison with three different treatment parameters and a control, and also examined the LED-induced histological, ultrastructural, and biochemical changes. Seventy-six patients with facial wrinkles were treated with quasimonochromatic LED devices on the right half of their faces. All subjects were randomly divided into four groups treated with either 830nm alone, 633nm alone, a combination of 830 and 633nm, or a sham treatment light, twice a week for four weeks. Serial photography, profilometry, and objective measurements of the skin elasticity and melanin were performed during the treatment period with a three-month follow-up period. The subject's and investigator's assessments were double-blinded. Skin specimens were evaluated for the histologic and ultrastructural changes, alteration in the status of matrix metalloproteinases (MMPs) and their tissue inhibitors (TIMPs), and the changes in the mRNA levels of IL-1ss, TNF-alpha, ICAM-1, IL-6 and connexin 43 (Cx43), by utilizing specific stains, TEM, immunohistochemistry, and real-time RT-PCR, respectively. In the results, objectively measured data showed significant reductions of wrinkles (maximum: 36%) and increases of skin elasticity (maximum: 19%) compared to baseline on the treated face in the three treatment groups. Histologically, a marked increase in the amount of collagen and elastic fibers in all treatment groups was observed. Ultrastructural examination demonstrated highly activated fibroblasts, surrounded by abundant elastic and collagen fibers. Immunohistochemistry showed an increase of TIMP-1 and 2. RT-PCR results showed the mRNA levels of IL-1ss, TNF-alpha, ICAM-1, and Cx43 increased after LED phototherapy whereas that of IL-6 decreased. This therapy was well-tolerated by all patients with no adverse effects. We concluded that 830 and 633nm LED phototherapy is an effective approach for skin rejuvenation.
PMID: 17566756 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE
And the link:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17566756?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum |
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Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:37 pm |
What is interesting here is that none of the LEDs we have been tracking have 830...they typically have 880 and 630-632 (with some as low as 590 in amber). |
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