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Acne prone members: How does your skin react to squalane?
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:30 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you PocoLoco.
You know it wasn't it even "little balls of staff", it was like those peel-off masks - I could remove the whole film as a single complete layer. I hope it does make some sense... I have somewhat limited English vocabulary, especially in skin care details... I used PSF HA serum underneath. So if I will continue experiencing the same (I will wait 15-20 min next time & yes, I will try mixing HA & Emu together), shall I just give up on Ultra Emu & start using Clear Emu? This white film is not how it supposed to work, right?

TheresaL, thank you for mentioning Kanebo - I am checking their web site now. What product exactly would you recommend for speeding up the healing? I know my skin IS capable of healing a pimple (to a totally gone state) in 1-2-3 days. Now it does take longer indeed, plus it leaves those red marks too (like another 7-10 days to fade those). I tried ACV toner - made them just darker & more noticeable... blah Mad
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TherezaL, Manslayerliz --- I for the first time in my life have the clearest, small, just adorable ( Very Happy ) pores now! Mind you, I was living & fighting clogged pores for a long time and nothing seemed to help until I discovered (thanks to this forum) Dr. Haushka Cleansing Cream. It did clear up my pores! Now I am using 2% BHA after cleansing (I use oils for cleansing) & it does great job at keeping my pores small & clear. No blackheads at all now (& blackheads was one of my biggest problems before). PocoLoco suggested BHA as well, so I guess it will worth your time to give it a try. Also cleanser means a lot in keeping pores clean. Have you tried using oils for that? Works better then any other cleanser (IMHO). HTH
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:00 pm      Reply with quote
I've been using the PSF ALA and I think it's causing my skin to clog somewhat. My skin had been looking really clear, but i'm I wouldn't put the clogged pores soley down to the PSF, and I haven't noticed any increased breakouts since I've been using it.

Shantel, which BHA product are you using?
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Sel, I use Salicylic Acid 2% from DianaYvonne. I can also order a sample size ($3-4 & enough to see (or not to see) the results! HTH
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:41 pm      Reply with quote
shantel wrote:

TheresaL, thank you for mentioning Kanebo - I am checking their web site now. What product exactly would you recommend for speeding up the healing? I know my skin IS capable of healing a pimple (to a totally gone state) in 1-2-3 days. Now it does take longer indeed, plus it leaves those red marks too (like another 7-10 days to fade those). I tried ACV toner - made them just darker & more noticeable... blah Mad


shantel I don't know if I would recommend one of their products specifically for healing. I have just been very pleased with the Sensai CP Emulsions I&II. With very sensitive skin I don't find many moisturizers that agree with me and yet the Kanebo ones seem to. Judging from the ingredient list they have a high percentage of niacinamide and also contain other anti-inflammatory ingredients like licorice. I wasn't too impressed when I first started using the Emulsions but I am just really liking them. I guess I was just pointing out the fact that I am currently using a moisturizer that has a high percentage of squalane and my pimples seem to heal just fine. I pointed this out to contrast what you and manslayerliz were saying about slower healing that you thought might possibly be due to squalane. I like to find patterns or the lack of them and I guess that in a way has been what this entire post has been about!
BTW I do use cleansing oil every evening. In fact the one I have been using most recently (Kose Seikisho Cleansing Oil) along with the MaMa lotion are what I attribute the minor improvement in my pores to. Oddly I have used several different cleansing oils and this is the first one that seems to be helping with my pores. I am specualting that it has something to do with rice bran ingredients in the cleansing oil but this is just a guess and I am looking into this more. I do recall reading somewhere that rice bran has a natural enzyme and wonder if that might be helping clear my pores.

Poco Loco, shantel I really wish I could use salicylic acid but for some reason even small amounts of this really irritate my skin. Now I know that this is an acid but the irritation I experience is more like a bad reaction than what I experince from using AHAs. I am trying to go the mandelic acid route to hopefully achieve similar benefits to salicylic acid.
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:28 pm      Reply with quote
Oh, I see, TherezaL. Thank you for clarifying it for me!

Also I just found out in other topic that slower healing might possibly be due to Emu Oil.

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Research shows that emu oil slows healing in the first stages but helps later.


So it does sound very interesting (and promising too), I will try to fing more info about that!
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:39 pm      Reply with quote
shantel I recall reading something recently about emu oil and healing on the smartskincare forum. Here's a link to the thread http://www.smartskincare.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=557&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=emu+oil+healing&start=45. It is a long thread but it does discuss not only emu oil and healing but copper peptides and healing as well. HTH
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:58 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you so much TheresaL. I am reading it now! Thank you! Thank you!
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:49 pm      Reply with quote
Shantel, that is the strangest thing I've heard about emu oil use. No, it's not supposed to peel off in sheets! If you find after more experimentation that you can't use it on your face, you can use it on your body, add it to skin lotions or creams, that kind of thing. I hope something works out for you.

Theresa, have you ever tried Exfol serum? It's 2% BHA in a pure aloe vera base. No alcohol. I wonder if it could be the combination of the BHA and the alcohol that bothers your skin Question I have very sensitive skin and my skin LOVES Exfol serum. Made by Skinbiology.com and sold at several places.
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:06 pm      Reply with quote
I like the ALA from PSF and use it with the HA when I'm not using the Decleor products.The fact the squaline was from an olive source was a plus.
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I just washed up & surprisingly enough I look so much better then a night before, and sure much better then 3-4 night before. So now I wonder why. hmm The redness (red marks after lots of pimples I suddenly got after using two ampoules of Dr. H RNH) is almost gone. Wondering why: because I was not able to use emu oil last night (cause it just peeled off in a very strange way) & after reading this other discussion (as one poster stated there: "It is unclear though if it's a good idea to use Emu after the wounds close - I was experiencing red marks that didn't seem to go away with Emu ") - just sounds like my case. Or maybe it was this squalane (in PSF ALA) what was causing acne worsening (made them "worse" then they would be on its own)? I don't know now.... Think
I guess tonight I won't apply nor ALA or Emu (probably not even HA - just in case Confused ), I will apply a bit of Decleor Night Balm (always enjoy it) & that's it. Also after reading some posts on another board (thank you so much TherezaL for the link) I decided to give a try to my sample of CP Serum that I ordered a while back but was too chicken to use it. Currently I have a couple of closed wounds on my forehead that I am a little worried that they might leave a scar. So I dipped a Qtip in CP Serum (is it supposed to be green?) & applied it (just a dot) over. Will see if I will notice any difference tomorrow. I actually feel a little bit of tingling there, so its definitely doing something... I hope something good.... Pray
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Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:04 pm      Reply with quote
PocoLoco wrote:
If you find after more experimentation that you can't use it on your face, you can use it on your body, add it to skin lotions or creams, that kind of thing. I hope something works out for you.


Laughing Oh I know that!!! My feet never looked that good before! Now anything my face don't like goes directly to my feet - they sure will like ultra emu oil! Laughing
Anyway I ordered just a sample of Ultra Emu, so not a biggie. I have absolutely no problems with using clear emu!
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:44 am      Reply with quote
PocoLoco wrote:

Theresa, have you ever tried Exfol serum? It's 2% BHA in a pure aloe vera base. No alcohol. I wonder if it could be the combination of the BHA and the alcohol that bothers your skin Question I have very sensitive skin and my skin LOVES Exfol serum. Made by Skinbiology.com and sold at several places.


PocoLoco I am not so sure about the salicylic acid. I avoided it for a long time because I use Differin and the package insert says not to combine the two. I have from time to time tried samples of products containing salicylic acid (MD Skincare alpha/beta peel, IS Clinical cleanser and several moisturizers) and my skin is within 24 hours very irritated. It feels a little like a burning sensation and feels hot. I am assuming that it is the salicylic acid since many of the samples I have tried do not even contain alcohol. What do you think, is it the SA that is the problem or something else?

shantel, glad you liked the smartskincare website. That entire website is one of the sources that I use for skincare information. If find Dr. Todorov to be objective and love that he will not say something one way or the other is her doesn't have the science to back it up. He may make a educated guess but he always states that is what he is doing. I haven't joined the forum yet but I probably should!
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:56 am      Reply with quote
Theresa, I think that your skin is probably sensitized from the Differin use. So maybe stay away from BHA. I do think the formulation makes a difference but when I was on OTC retinol products I could hardly use anything even remotely irritating. For me, Exfol serum is not irritating but everyone is unique. You may even be allergic to BHA, I suppose.

Shantel, emu oil is anti-inflammatory but it not the thing to use to make red marks go away. It is primarily a moisturizer. For getting rid of post inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH), you would need to use something other than emu oil...an acid for example, like mandelic acid in particular. Or one of the lightening products out there. Emu oil will help prevent NEW red marks though! Very Happy
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:48 pm      Reply with quote
PocoLoco wrote:
Theresa, I think that your skin is probably sensitized from the Differin use. So maybe stay away from BHA. I do think the formulation makes a difference but when I was on OTC retinol products I could hardly use anything even remotely irritating. For me, Exfol serum is not irritating but everyone is unique. You may even be allergic to BHA, I suppose.


Poco Loco my skin has always been sensitive and you are right the Differin has made it even more sensitive. I am going to try different mandelic acid products and see if that helps and also try using AHAs as peels since they are too irritating to use everyday. But I also think that a big part of solving my pore issues is going to be finding what is causing them in the first place....
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Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:46 pm      Reply with quote
Any updates anyone?

Personally I am leaning towards squalane not being a problem for me in terms of clogged pores or acne.
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I would stay away from squalane. There are two -- squalene and squalane, and both of them caused me breakouts -- and I'm not acne-prone. Exclamation

I remember a facialist saying that squalane is not for the acne-prone.
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Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:50 pm      Reply with quote
TheresaL wrote:
Am I the only acne prone member of our forum that has used products containing squalane???


Nope, I haven't used it either.

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I would stay away from squalane. There are two -- squalene and squalane, and both of them caused me breakouts -- and I'm not acne-prone. Exclamation

I remember a facialist saying that squalane is not for the acne-prone.
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Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:35 pm      Reply with quote
I once purchased pure squalane serum to use as a moisturizer. I broke out from it and had to give it to a dry-skinned relative. I have combination, sensitive skin.
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