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Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:30 pm  |
What's a good loose powder with good coverage to put over LRP Anthelios SS? Anthelios (I'm currently using the Lait SFP 50+) has avobenzene and most powders with Iron, Titanium, and other minerals may destablize them.
I am currently using Coty Loose Powder b/c it has excellent coverage and I don't need foundation under it. I think this may reduce the effectiveness of the LRP SS. I tried Laura Mercier loose powder but the coverage is too little. Any ideas for an oily skinned gal?
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:56 pm |
t leclerc has very good loose powder but i think they do contain some mineral so maybe won't meet ur need
i've heard both bobbi brown & nars have fairly good powder (but haven't tried them myself) maybe u can check them out  |
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:01 pm |
Yes, I was looking into NARS. I might try it.
Thanks! |
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:13 pm |
A lot of people here use the Jurilique rose or lavender powder and some use the LeClerk stuff. Both were recommended last year for use over LRP Anthelios. Apparantly they're both starch based not mineral. I'm not sure about coverage as I don't use makeup much myself. I always thought they were colourless powders, but I could be wrong.
HTH Molly  |
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:40 pm |
Hi,
Here's another one to consider. Youngblood Finishing powder is also starch based but has more color/coverage than a translucent powder. |
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:09 pm |
Ive got the jurlique but it dosent give any coverage.
Have you tried waiting half an hour for the sunscreen to sink in,applying a bit of a cornflour starch(as a barrier between sunscreen and makeup) then applying makeup. This would probably work better if you use mineral makeup. Thats what was recommended to me.
Its such a nuisance that avobenzone is degraded like that,its in so many of the euro sunscreens too. Avene dosent but im getting sick of using that,its too shiny. |
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Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:55 pm |
| I think the coverage should come from the foundation, rather than the powder. However, I would like to recommend the Paul & Joe loose powder in translucent. It works just great! I don't like BB's loose powder. It cakes and looks so fake on my NC25 face! |
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Age 27. Combination. Dry for winter and oil for summer. Acne prone. Uneven tone.Aging, worry about losing firmness.-------------------------I believe in that there is nobody else having worse skin than me. I keep looking for products can give me smooth, acne free yet soothing, firm, and radiant look. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:15 am |
Carolb69, which Avene sunscreen do you use? I found that the Avene emulsion was too shiny on me, but their Gel-Creme SPF 20/PPD 20 is semi-matte. It's really very nice.
I agree about avobenzene though...it is a pain that is not compatible with all those MMU's out there. |
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jordan1212
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:15 am |
| I never knew this, I always use me LRP with BE mineral powder on top. No wonder I still seem to get sun on my face. Can I use regular foundation powders if they contain SPF? Is the SPF bad, or just the minerals in mineral powders? |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:21 pm |
| jordan1212 wrote: |
| I never knew this, I always use me LRP with BE mineral powder on top. No wonder I still seem to get sun on my face. Can I use regular foundation powders if they contain SPF? Is the SPF bad, or just the minerals in mineral powders? |
It's the minerals reacting against the SDS.
You can wear a mineral powder over a mineral SS. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:36 pm |
| I've heard that the Everyday Minerals finishing powder gets lots of raves, it's apparently tinted cornstarch. Not much coverage but that's what I plan on trying soon if only to take the shine off my sunscreen. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:11 pm |
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Carolb69, which Avene sunscreen do you use? I found that the Avene emulsion was too shiny on me, but their Gel-Creme SPF 20/PPD 20 is semi-matte. It's really very nice.
I agree about avobenzene though...it is a pain that is not compatible with all those MMU's out there. |
i use the 40+ spray. Ive tried some other ones as well and didnt like them. I havent tried the one you suggest though so thanks for that I will check it out. Do you know if its available at tubotica?  never mind I'll go look now myself |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:11 pm |
| Glad I saw this! I just ordered some of the Anthelois, and I'm using MMU. I need foundation advice. How about the Nars or Bobbi Brown foundation? I've never tried either of them. Also, how about Vincent Longo? I've been wanting to try that. Any recommenations are great!! |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:15 pm |
| Sorry, me again. Just to clarify, is anything okay as long as it isn't MMU? |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:21 pm |
| Dont all foundations have iron oxides? Thats what I heard-that the iron oxides in foundation can degrade avobenzone. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:17 pm |
| carolb69 wrote: |
| Dont all foundations have iron oxides? Thats what I heard-that the iron oxides in foundation can degrade avobenzone. |
I think it matters where in the ingredient list the iron oxide occurs.
I am using a non spf foundation from Clinique to minimise the degredation. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:33 pm |
| So i guess MMU is a no/no as it has spf due to the zinc and titanium dioxide? I couldnt go back to liquid foundation after using minerals so Im just going to have to avoid avobenzone. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:34 pm |
| PocoLoco wrote: |
Carolb69, which Avene sunscreen do you use? I found that the Avene emulsion was too shiny on me, but their Gel-Creme SPF 20/PPD 20 is semi-matte. It's really very nice.
I agree about avobenzene though...it is a pain that is not compatible with all those MMU's out there. |
Pocoloco is that the one that is also called "emulsion"?
Also I heard that if the minerals are coated it shouldnt be a problem. Aromaleigh glissade is meant to be coated but i havent tried it. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:45 pm |
Me again
I found this on MUA. Just someones opinion
Almost all makeups contain uncoated TiO2, iron oxides and sometimes ZnO rop ( )
Yet, I've also heard the contrary: that most minerals in makeup nowadays are coated, but just don't advertise this. The only one I know for sure is coated is Aromaleigh Glissade. I mix this with some Velvet Effect French Talc (bought from http://www.cosmeticformulator.com) to improve the finsh. But honestly, I don't worry too much about this anymore. Possible degradation is only going to take place in the interface between your s/s and makeup. The experiments that showed that the oxides degraded avobenzone used completely mixed preparations of the ingredients, so there was maximum contact between the ingredients. The one thing I don't do is use any liquid makeup, since applying it over s/s will cause more mixing with the s/s than a powder that is dusted over the top.
HTH. |
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Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:55 pm |
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| What's a good loose powder with good coverage to put over LRP Anthelios SS? Anthelios (I'm currently using the Lait SFP 50+) has avobenzene and most powders with Iron, Titanium, and other minerals may destablize them. |
I have been heavily researching the above for the past year, asking a plethora of renowned NYC, Los Angeles, and Dallas dermatologists whether this theory is indeed factual. Unanimously and straight across the board, I get a "no." They were all quite familiar with this theory, and each explained to me in rather satisfying detail exactly why it is not true. All in all, I would respectfully just need a little more proof of this conjecture than what has been provided.  |
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:27 am |
| SugarFreeSheila wrote: |
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| What's a good loose powder with good coverage to put over LRP Anthelios SS? Anthelios (I'm currently using the Lait SFP 50+) has avobenzene and most powders with Iron, Titanium, and other minerals may destablize them. |
I have been heavily researching the above for the past year, asking a plethora of renowned NYC, Los Angeles, and Dallas dermatologists whether this theory is indeed factual. Unanimously and straight across the board, I get a "no." They were all quite familiar with this theory, and each explained to me in rather satisfying detail exactly why it is not true. All in all, I would respectfully just need a little more proof of this conjecture than what has been provided. |
Yeah Im wondering where this theory came from. Are you able to tell us what they said? Thanks |
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:12 am |
I wish that Kathleen of skincarecentral.biz would come over here and give us her opinion on this.
Carol, the Avene emulsion is SPF 50 and it is the one I found too shiny.
The Avene Gel-Creme is SPF 20/PPD 20 and it is semi-matte. I like it MUCH better. It uses tinsorb as it's sunscreen chemical which is stable.
If you can't find the Gel-Creme on Tubotica, do a Google search for it--one of the online retails sells it I just can't remember which one. Sorry. |
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Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:07 pm |
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| They were all quite familiar with this theory, and each explained to me in rather satisfying detail exactly why it is not true. |
Hi Sugarfreesheila
That's brilliant news, really - it would save a lot of fretting and bother Can you give us the details?
Thanks Molly |
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:33 am |
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They were all quite familiar with this theory, and each explained to me in rather satisfying detail exactly why it is not true.
Hi Sugarfreesheila
That's brilliant news, really - it would save a lot of fretting and bother Can you give us the details?
Thanks Molly |
Sugarfreesheila
I definitely like to hear from you. I would save me a lot of agony over what to use with my ss. |
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Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:32 am |
Hey guys,
Thanks for all the posting! Somehow I never got emails to let me know that there are posts in this discussion thread despite the fact that I asked for notification.
It's so difficult to find a euro SS without avobenzene. I ordered the Bioderma Photoderm MAX Fluide SPF 50+ which is cosmetically elegant and may offer more UVA-I protection better than any sunscreen (according to sunscreens notepad on MUA). Although, this has Tinosorb and avobenzene I may have to still use my own loose powder (Coty) because I refuse to wear foundation. I will try NARS since they don't have any minerals and I heard that it provides nice coverage. The search for HG SS and loose powder still continues.
Thank you all for posting. This is all good information and I will ensure I keep my eye on this thread. |
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