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Lady T
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:06 am |
Retin A...Is it ok to apply on the eyelids? |
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:32 pm |
My dermatologist told me not to. |
_________________ 40, fair skinned, dark hair, blue eyes |
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:59 pm |
No. It's too irritating. |
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:16 pm |
I don't put it on my eyelids, but do apply it everywhere else - lower eye-lids and sides of my eyes (crows feet) included.
HTH. |
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:40 pm |
my derm says its fine and actually he recommends it...start slowy though. |
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Lady T
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Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:37 pm |
Well,i tried it on my eyelids yesterday,and everything seems ok
i think i'll keep on using it..Thanks girls! |
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Caspers Mum
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Joined: 02 Nov 2002
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:24 pm |
Uh, NO! Unless you're a masochist, completely out of your mind, and wish to go BLIND! |
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Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:12 pm |
I think not--the skin on your eyelids is very thin and fragile. Retin-a might irritate the heck out of 'em. |
_________________ Light, yellow undertones, dark hair & eyes, extremely combo., resistant skin prone to congestion, dryness AND breakouts! |
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:50 am |
Caspers Mum wrote: |
Uh, NO! Unless you're a masochist, completely out of your mind, and wish to go BLIND! |
Ummmmmmmmmm, what she said |
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 1:43 pm |
i had the same question..but i didn't dare to put retinal a around my eyes since i have sensitive eyes and i've used quite a few products which made my eyes all watery & red
yet there r retinal a eye cream out there..r those safe?? |
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Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:27 pm |
from http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/464026_print
"Dosage and Administration
Administration instructions contained in the product package insert may conflict with prescribed instructions when a drug is prescribed for off-label use. It's important to know what the patient may read and explain the differences to the patient, prior to prescribing off-label medications. Table 3 summarizes the use for approved indications only.
Application. Although package inserts often suggest using a pea-sized amount, our dermatology practice recommends applying 1 inch of the retinoid to the entire face on a nightly basis. This off-label application can be beneficial when addressing conditions such as acne, photodamage, intrinsic aging, actinic keratoses, lentigines, melasma, rosacea, and Darier's disease. By treating the entire face, efficacy can be enhanced, for the active ingredient works where it is placed. Spot treating should be avoided. This may reasonably decrease efficacy, and can lead to a blotchy appearance of the skin. Application should extend to the hairline and feather down along the jawline (Obagi & Bridenstine, 2000). Note: An inch is approximately the length of your distal finger (from the DIP to the tip).
Mucous membranes, corners of the nose, mouth, and eyes should be avoided. The upper and lower eyelids should be treated, however, if addressing photo damage or intrinsic aging. If contact with eyes occurs, rinse thoroughly with water." |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:12 am |
I use it under my eyes but, I dont think I'd put it on my eyelids...something tells me thats not a good idea. BTW I also use the lowest strength, and I dont have sensitive eye skin. |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:32 pm |
Thanks for posting that link and article, snowymtn. Good info to use! |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:20 pm |
marci65 wrote: |
Thanks for posting that link and article, snowymtn. Good info to use! |
your welcome. I wish I could find more data but dont have the patience Of course if people dont feel comfortable with this they should not try it, but I have started using retinoids on my eyelids about 1-2 times per week with great results, and, as I mentioned, my derm actually recommends it. I have always used them under my eyes with no troubles as well, even though my eyes are very sensitive to certain sunscreens (anything with avobenzone). Of course anyone who is using tretinoin will have a prescribing doc so I would recommend checking with your doc first |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:30 pm |
No, it's unsafe. I also heard that it's bad to use Retin-A on a regular basis. Is this true? I heard it thins out your skin. |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:09 pm |
bex wrote: |
No, it's unsafe. I also heard that it's bad to use Retin-A on a regular basis. Is this true? I heard it thins out your skin. |
bex: please see the responses to your other retin-a post. There is no clinical research showing that tretinoin is "bad" for your skin. Your skin may or may not tolerate it, this is another issue. But it is one of the best topicals on the market today, with clinically proven anti-aging and collagen stimulating benefits. A search on Pubmed.gov for "tretinoin" will bring up loads of results. |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:24 pm |
Thanks so much! I meant it was unsafe to put on your eyelids..lol! I REALLY do appreciate all your advice...it's so nice to chat with someone who is as passionate as I am about skin! My skin does tolerate Retin-A...it just peels some at first with a little redness, but that expected. Any other anti-aging products you recommend? I'm 34...going through menopausal (sp?)(I'm on hormone injections) stages and my skin and body is not in the best condition...I have fair skin, but tan rather easily-but stay out of the sun, brunette with blue eyes. Thanks again! |
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Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:47 am |
Wow some of the responses here are really out there.
I have used Retin-A .05% on my whole face INCLUDING my eyelids for over a year now. In the beginning they would peel/flake a little but it didn't last long. My skin looks so much better now than a year ago, much younger looking. If you can use Retin-A around your eyes then do so. The reason that many people don't is because it might be too irritating but that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of people who are not as sensitive. I always thought that I had sensitive skin but after a little initial flaking I can tolerate the Retin-A just fine. |
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Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:04 pm |
snowymtn wrote: |
from http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/464026_print
"Dosage and Administration
Administration instructions contained in the product package insert may conflict with prescribed instructions when a drug is prescribed for off-label use. It's important to know what the patient may read and explain the differences to the patient, prior to prescribing off-label medications. Table 3 summarizes the use for approved indications only.
Application. Although package inserts often suggest using a pea-sized amount, our dermatology practice recommends applying 1 inch of the retinoid to the entire face on a nightly basis. This off-label application can be beneficial when addressing conditions such as acne, photodamage, intrinsic aging, actinic keratoses, lentigines, melasma, rosacea, and Darier's disease. By treating the entire face, efficacy can be enhanced, for the active ingredient works where it is placed. Spot treating should be avoided. This may reasonably decrease efficacy, and can lead to a blotchy appearance of the skin. Application should extend to the hairline and feather down along the jawline (Obagi & Bridenstine, 2000). Note: An inch is approximately the length of your distal finger (from the DIP to the tip).
Mucous membranes, corners of the nose, mouth, and eyes should be avoided. The upper and lower eyelids should be treated, however, if addressing photo damage or intrinsic aging. If contact with eyes occurs, rinse thoroughly with water." |
Very good info, that dispels the idea of patting on a tiny dab of it. Using an inch of it and smoothing all over your face like a cream would afford plenty of coverage for sure. |
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:44 pm |
Retin A isn't meant to be applied on the eyes. |
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:14 pm |
tina7006 wrote: |
Retin A isn't meant to be applied on the eyes. |
my derm is very very againt using more than the pea amount -- says it isn't any better and will just cause more side effects and possibly more breakouts. Pea amount covers my whole face nicely, so I don't know why someone would want to use an inch....
as far as on the eyelids goes, I guess if you were REALLY careful maybe it would be ok, but I just wouldn't risk it. |
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:15 pm |
totally quoted the wrong person, my bad |
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:32 pm |
I used to work in a doctor's office a while back and the technicians actually used a clean makeup wedge/sponge thingy to apply Retin-A to their client's faces - they used it to "feather" the product around the hairline and near the ears. They then would take the wedge and wipe it over the client's eyelids - that way, the lids would be treated, but with the thinnest layer possible. It was a really good trick and none of the clients complained about irritation. |
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Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:51 pm |
What strength of Retin-A is everyone using? Has anyone purchased it through MexMeds, and if so, has it been effective? Thanks.. |
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Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:10 am |
I get mine from Medsmex. I started off with the .01% gel, then moved up to .025% gel, and now I use the .05% creme. I sometimes flake a little and when I tried it on my neck it got pretty red and gave a burning sensation, so I guess it's working. |
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