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Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:12 am |
I use the Ardell lash serum and get pretty good results. Recently though I started taking MSM supplements and noticed a Huge difference in my fingernails/eyelashes growth in about a week. If anyone is worried about the JM serum, you might try this cheap alternative first!
I had posted previously in the HA/lip plumping thread about my experience with Hyaluronic Acid and the various positive side effects I have experienced. I use the brand Hydraplenish. Many people had asked what the difference was between the Hydraplenish and Hydraplenish with MSM. I had stated that I did not notice a difference between the 2, and since this kind without MSM is cheaper, I had decided to just use that. The main 'differences' I was looking for had to do with my vision/lip plumping/joint pain and I can still say that I do Not notice any drastic change with or without MSM.
Well a few months have gone by and I started thinking about it and I remembered back to just around the time of my sister's wedding (last April), when I was using the HP+MSM and had suggested it to my sister for her to start using, and she kept saying how her hair/nails were growing so fast (which is usually not the case). My hair and nails already grow pretty quickly and I had just assumed any additional results I was getting were from the HP (considering how miraculous the rest of the results I was experiencing were).
Anyway, here I am, months later realizing that it was either the HP/MSM combo or just the plain MSM that really adds quick growth to lashes.
I currently still take the HP, but have added MSM back in to my supplement regime and noticed huge results! After realizing what was going on, I also did some research and apparently MSM is Used to promote healthy hair/skin/nail growth.
Hopefully this helps someone! |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:15 am |
I can't remember if my Skin Eternal has MSM or not, but, all of the HA/collagen II supplements I've been taking have definitely made my eyelashes and hair grow, too! I LOVE IT!!! I'm so glad I stumbled upon this site, as I was desperately searching for ways to plump my lips. |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:04 am |
Where do you buy it? What's the brand name. |
_________________ 40, fair skinned, dark hair, blue eyes |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:09 am |
c4ward wrote: |
Where do you buy it? What's the brand name. |
You can just buy it at your local drugstore. I know I've seen just plain MSM supplements at walgreens. |
_________________ 26, combination skin with oily t-zone |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:35 am |
Im definitely going to buy one for myself, I really have a short lashes. Hope this will work. |
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Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:56 am |
MSM is good for all aspects of skin, hair and nail growth/health. It's one of the myriad of supplements I take but I use the powdered form and mix it w/L-Glutamine & Silica Gel and juice for a 3-pow kick in the skincare pants. |
_________________ 42; medium, warm-toned; large pores prone to congestion; oily; using Karin Herzog exclusively right now! |
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Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:32 am |
I bought mine at Walmart, the brand name is Spring Valley (1500 mg MSM). Although as Ariesextreme mentioned, it is available most anywhere! |
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Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:24 pm |
what is MSm made up of? Sorry if I'm a bit out of it |
_________________ Location: Denmark. Me = 32, think I'm combo without oiliness + sometimes sensitive. Have noticed that skin doesn't heal as quickly anymore and I've developed fine lines around my eyes... Hormonal breakouts which are sometimes cystic. PCOS |
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Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:48 pm |
I am now wondering if thats why my lashes were so good even before I started JM, they were 12.5 or 12.7 cc or whatever that measurement is. I've taken msn for awhile, albiet not consistantly but I do take it. Might def be something to this. |
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Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:06 pm |
MSM is Methylsulfonylmethane and is a sulfur compound that is found just about everywhere. I believe it's supposed to help the body repair tissue, especially joints (it's used to treat arthritis as well) |
_________________ Light, yellow undertones, dark hair & eyes, extremely combo., resistant skin prone to congestion, dryness AND breakouts! |
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Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:03 am |
I just bought some MSM yesterday at CVS to go along with my JM eyelash. I hope it works! |
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Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:44 am |
From herbshop.com (I just did a quick google of MSM to try and find out more info to post and this provided a pretty comprehensive overview):
MSM: What is It and Why Do We Need It?
What is MSM?
MSM is the abbreviation for methyl-sulfonyl-methane, a naturally occuring sulfur compound. This compound is found in tissues and fluids of plants, of animals, and of people. MSM and its related compounds make up 85% of the sulfur in living organisms. Our bodies are composed primarily of five basic elements: oxygen, hydrogen, nitrogen, carbon, and sulfur.
Why do we need sulfur?
* Sulfur is needed to form blood proteins and amino acids
* Sulfur provides the chemical links needed to form collagen, the protein found in connective tissue
* Sulfur is essential for healthy hair, skin, and nails
* Sulfur activates and helps the body utilize Vitamin C, B1, B5 (pantothenic" acid) and biotin
* Sulfur is used by the liver to manufacture bile, a necessary element for proper digestion
* Sulfur is essential in maintain body pH, the acid-alkaline balance
* Sulfur is an important component in insulin production, and aids in carbohydrate metabolism
Where does MSM come from?
Dietary MSM comes from fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, meats, seafood, and milk. Processing of these products, however, destroys or greatly reduces actual MSM content.
Pioneer MSM researcher Robert Hershcler says: “MSM is shy, evasive and escape-prone. While present naturally when food is very fresh, it can be driven out of any food by even moderate processing. People, generally speaking, wil lbe sulfur-deficient unless they eat their fish and meat raw and their vegetables unwashed and uncooked.“
MSM levels in humans decline with age, resulting in symptoms of fatigue, tissue and organ malfunction, and increased susceptibility to disease.
History of MSM
Dr. Stanley Jacob, M.D., of the Oregon Health Sciences University in Portland Oregon, and Robert Herschler, a research scientist for Crown Zellerbach, have researched MSM and its chemical cousin DMSO for over 35 years. They have discovered and documented several of MSM's remarkable benefits, including effectiveness for a variety of conditions including join and msucle pains and injuries, rheumatoid arthritis, skin ulcers, psoriasis, bursitis, emphysema and chronic urinary tract infection.
MSM was eventually patented under Herschler's name, with Jacob sharing in patent and marketing rights.
According to Jacob and Herschler: “MSM, an odorless, essentially tasteless, white crystalline chemical, demonstrates usefulness as a dietary supplement to man and lower animals. Our research suggests that a minimum concentration in the bdoy may be critical to both normal function and structure....”
At OHSU, Jacob has adminstered MSM to over 15,000 patients for a variety of conditions. Excellent results have been noted in doses of 250 to 750 mg per day, but he also reports that up to 5,000 mg. per day can produce definite therapeutic improvements without side effects.
Health Benefits
Drs. Jacob, Herschler, and others have reported benefits to patients of using MSM to be:
* Relief from acidity and heartburn
* Relief of environmental, food and drug allergies
* Relief from symptoms of osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis
* Animal research at Ohio State University College of Medicine has shown that oral MSM supplementation can protect against the onset of breast cancer in laboratory animals
* Research at OSU also shows MSM to be a preventative agent for colon cancer
* Herschler discovered MSM could produce sometimes extraordinary relief from symptoms of emphysema
* Animal research has shown MSM to have anti-inflammatory effects on the eyes
* Research has shown rapid relief, even in stubborn cases, of stomach distress, constipation, gastrointestinal inflammation and recurring diarrhea
* Dr. J.M. Seigel, also of OHSU in Portland, Oregon, reported extending the lifespans of animals with lupus erythematosus
* Research shows MSM is capable of reducing or eliminating leg and back cramps, muscle spasms, and general soreness
* Research has shown that MSM is remarkably effective in treating parasitic and fungal infections both on the skin and internally, including fungus, giardia, trichimonas and intestinal worms such as nematoces, enterobius, and others
* Patent information reports MSM has been found to be effective in eliminating external scars including stretch marks, burns, and surgical incisions
* Herschler discovered that MSM softened the skin, making it more elastic
* Because of its effect on collagen and protein, MSM helps reduce the hardening of skin and connective tissue, thus making it an extraordinary treatment for improving the quality of the hair, skin and nails
* A study at OHSU shows significant reduction in snoring after applying a liquid MSM solution to each nostril in test subjects
How Much MSM Should Be Used?
To be effective therapeutically, MSM should be taken frequently, ideally, every day
Researchers have generally used daily dosages of between 250 mg and 2,000 mg. In severe cases, up to 5,000 mg. per day have been used without side effects.
Are Their Any Drug Interactions with MSM?
MSM appears to be non-toxic, non-allergenic, and does not interfere or interact with any other types of pharmaceutical medicines.
More Internal Applications of MSM (according to research)
* Chronic Pain
* Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
* Candida
* Urinary Tract Infections
* Alzheimer's Disease
* Pneumonia
* Rheumatism
* Migraine Headaches
* Obesity
* Diabetes
* PMS
* Liver Dysfunction
* Tuberculosis
* Hay Fever
* Hangovers
* Hormonal Imbalances
* Effects of Radiation
More External Uses of MSM (according to research)
* Acne
* Bruises
* Skin Problems
* Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
* Varicose Veins
* Tendonitis, Bursitis, Joint Pain
* Muscle Cramps and Pain
* Burns
* Fungus
* Rashes
* Sunburn
* Conjunctivitis
* Tired, Red, Inflamed Eyes
* Eye Inflammation
* Inflamed Gums" |
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Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:36 pm |
Despite all the good reviews from users.. Should I be concerned that this is listed on quackwatch too? |
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:07 am |
scalawaggirl wrote: |
MSM is good for all aspects of skin, hair and nail growth/health. It's one of the myriad of supplements I take but I use the powdered form and mix it w/L-Glutamine & Silica Gel and juice for a 3-pow kick in the skincare pants. |
You are on the right track taking that supplement in addition to one with MSM-- silica is also great for hair growth and is an ingredient included in lash growth serums like Talika and Mavala.... |
_________________ Über-oily,semi-sensitive, warm/fair-skinned redhead, 38...Will swap/shop for members outside U.S. and/or make homemade skincare products upon demand-PM me for details. |
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:10 am |
miranets wrote: |
Despite all the good reviews from users.. Should I be concerned that this is listed on quackwatch too? |
Well, they probably also list HA/collagen supplements on quackwatch, too! But we all know differently, don't we?! |
_________________ Über-oily,semi-sensitive, warm/fair-skinned redhead, 38...Will swap/shop for members outside U.S. and/or make homemade skincare products upon demand-PM me for details. |
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Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:48 pm |
Try the Talika. It really works. I am happy that it is carrying by EDS now. |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:49 am |
Hi, can you tell me where I can buy this MSM eyelash grow? It is my first time to hear about it. Thanks. |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 5:55 am |
You can find MSM in the supplement/vitamin section at your local drug store like Walgreens. It is usually near the glucosamine/condroitin. |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 8:31 am |
I just bought Talika for the eyebrows. Does it work and would the MSM help with eyebrows? How much do you take? Thanks! |
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Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:54 am |
Janie, I've read on another forum that we have to take 2-4g daily to see results.
HTH. |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:38 am |
Jumpingball, thanks for the tip. I was only taking 1 gram a day. |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:30 pm |
Thanks! |
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:01 pm |
you are welcome! |
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Rita1
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:22 pm |
I can't get over what I've stumbled upon... A few days ago, I researched the web for info. on Extra Virgin Coconut oil, and learned about how beneficial it is to the hair and skin. I purchased a tub of the Extra Virgin Coconut oil at my local Vitamin Shoppe, applied it on my face, including the lashes and eye area. Now this is the interesting part... I used to use the Lucia months ago for lash growth, and I've used the Ardell, then up until last week, the dream lash at bedtime. Yesterday morning, I looked in the mirror to check my complexion, and at some point began applying makeup when I looked at my lashes to apply mascara, I was stunned by my overnight eyelash growth!!! It blew the other products out of the water in growth speed for my lashes. I didn't realize how potent this stuff is. The only problem I has was that because I overapplied the coconut oil around my eye area at night, quite a bit crept into my eyes, bothering my eyes the next day. I'm going to apply it to a mascara wand to see if this helps that issue. this morning my lashes looked longer, and my lashes are just about touching my eyebrows -- the portion of the lashes that are closest to the nose. Anyways, with that immediate growth, I wonder how quickly my hair will grow if I apply this coconut oil nightly to condition my hair, then wash out each morning. I'm absolutely amazed. I was mainly using it for my complexion, and now it will include my lashes and hair.
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:50 pm |
Thanks for all the awesome tips ladies, I'm just waiting to receive my JM eyelash serum from EDS - now I'm going to add MSM and coconut oil to the mix to get the perfect lashes! Rital, could you keep us updated as to your hair growth when you leave the oil on overnight? And are you able to wash it out ok in the morning? Thanks!
Shirley M |
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