Lightstim LED Device
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free skin care · Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:55 pm

Hi - when you say collagen would that be for thickening or would it also tighten and lift? Or is that more a NuFace kind of thing? I have very thick skin as it is and no wrinkles but even with mine I do see a brightening and smoothing and firming to the surface. Nothing as deep as the muscles though. So I would assume the AA would do more of the same? What about pore minimizing? I would think if the skin were tightened enough that could happen.

I have been away for so long and don't have days/hours to catch up on the threads. Are people now preferring this to the BQ? Thanks for the tip about the exchange. I got my original one during a sale and it was dirt cheap. It has gone way up since then.

free skin care · Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:11 pm

The BQ is the Baby Quasar.

AALS is the Anti-Aging LightStim

free skin care · Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:05 am

Apart from Kassy's Pre-LED treatment, are you girls using any other cream/lotion for your LED light?

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:01 am

Hi can someone tell me if it helps to even out the skintone? I dont know why but my skin is very uneven. Like it's thinner/lighter on the cheeks compared to the rest of the face. Using AHA doesnt seem to help.

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:42 am

^^ Do you own the LS?

I think when it comes to skin tone, that is the most obvious change I have had with using the AALS. And also my skin has become a little firmer. I'm only in my 2nd month... Hopefully more good stuff to come!

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:05 am

I dont have it yet. Im getting it soon and sharing it with my mom! I was asking because uneven skintone is a major concern for me. I hope it works.
Just wondering has your skin improved to the point that you dont need to wear makeup anymore that is if you wear makeup?

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:32 am

funkydory: Sometimes I use the Kassy LED Pre-Treatment and sometimes the Kassy 15% Vit C, E + Ferulic. Mostly it depends if I am using the AALS in the morning or at night.

I still have some of my L'Occitane Immortelle Brightening serum left that I am trying to use up. So once a week or so I use that.

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:52 pm

Milbader,
Do you do the c/e plus Ferulic cocktail before the light treatment? Or do you leaveit on the treatment?
Kassy is so awesome and helpful!
I have been using her c/e plus Ferulic now for 2 wks ( with e-oil,vodka,glycerine,and distilled h20)
It is already so much better than the SkinCeutical version I have used for a couple of years!
I have a prolight platinum, but some of the lights are out Confused

So I am sending it back for a replacement.

HMMM: any thoughts if AALS is better? My main issues are hyperpigmentation,and collagen rebuilding.

I would SOOO love to spring for the Dermawave on NCN but it isn't in the cards financially at this minute. Sad

Thanks so much! Very Happy

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:41 pm

mandapanda: Yes, I apply the Kassy Vit C, E + Ferulic and wait 45 min or so and then use the AALS. I also wait about the same amount of time when using the Kassy LED Pre-Treatment before I use the AALS.

Are you sure the lights are out or are they the infra-red that appear to be out since we cannot see them.

I don't know which is better but I am happy with my AALS.

free skin care · Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:55 pm

manda, are you sure the lights are actually out? Don't forget that the "infrared" lights, are not visible to the naked eye, and just *appear* to be out.

I think you should keep working with the 'platinum', because it should help with all your concerns over the longterm.

To be fair, I believe any LED user, needs to commit 6 months to a good regime that includes topicals, treatments and whatever it takes to increase cell turnover.. After all, we could use an LED device till doomsday, but if it's sitting on top of a pile of dead skin cells, it's never going to give good results.

For those who own AALS:

Take a good look at your AALS, paying particular attention to the colors you see.. I assure you it already has the best of what DW considers the *best*..

A long time ago I posted good info on the amber/orange wavelength being a powerhouse... Believe me when I tell you, I did enough homework for all of us.. Shock

ETA: Same thought, same time as Mil.. Laughing

Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:37 pm

I've been using the AALS for a month now. I wasn't seeing much in the way of results until I thought to check the ingredients of the cleanser I was using pre-treatment. Sure enough, oils. After switching to Cetaphil (the Gentle version, not the Daily which also has oils) about a week ago, I now notice that a patch of reddish sun-damaged skin on my chest, just below the base of the neck, has almost completely cleared up.

free skin care · Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:20 am

faeriedust wrote:

I dont have it yet. Im getting it soon and sharing it with my mom! I was asking because uneven skintone is a major concern for me. I hope it works.
Just wondering has your skin improved to the point that you dont need to wear makeup anymore that is if you wear makeup?

When I go to work, I don't wear make up at all. I have been using the AALS for about a month now? Sometimes I do put on some foundation to hide some scars but I must say the AALS has greatly improved my skintone to make it look more healthy

free skin care · Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:28 am

wow your skin must be good to begin with. I have to wear makeup everyday. Has your scars improved?
Im getting my lightstim soon. I will do a before and after. I hope to even out my skintone and fade my red marks from pimples.

Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:55 pm

Hi Kassy, I'm a new member and have been following your posts for a few week, thank you, so interesting. I have just ordered an Omnilux New-U so will be sure to let you know how it is. I choose this based on their FDA approval and have had several in salon Omnilux treatments with fantastic results.

free skin care · Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:22 pm

askamanda wrote:

Hi Kassy, I'm a new member and have been following your posts for a few week, thank you, so interesting. I have just ordered an Omnilux New-U so will be sure to let you know how it is. I choose this based on their FDA approval and have had several in salon Omnilux treatments with fantastic results.

Welcome to the forum, and congratulations on your Omnilux purchase..

Please be sure to share your ongoing results, as we all love to know what works well, and what to pass by..

I don't believe there is an Omnilux thread yet, so maybe after you've used it a bit, you can start one..

Good luck!

free skin care · Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:47 am

I got my lightstim 3 days ago and have been using it daily. When I started using the lightstim, I already had some clogged pores and pimples. Im not sure if it's due to the lightstim, but my condition has worsened. Please tell me if it's not advisable to use the anti ageing lightstim when the skin is clogged? Or should I reduce the usage? Sad

free skin care · Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:51 am

faeriedust wrote:

I got my lightstim 3 days ago and have been using it daily. When I started using the lightstim, I already had some clogged pores and pimples. Im not sure if it's due to the lightstim, but my condition has worsened. Please tell me if it's not advisable to use the anti ageing lightstim when the skin is clogged? Or should I reduce the usage? Sad

You need to clean + exfoliate the dead, clogged skin + pores, prior to using any LED..

free skin care · Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:25 am

I do clean my skin. But if I use it everyday, does that mean I'll have to exfoliate everyday too? Is that excessive?

free skin care · Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:16 am

I don't think we should follow the manufacturer's instructions all the time. When I got my rosacea light, I did it every night. In the beginning it worked wonders, but then suddenly I got papules everyday. In their email to me, they said I should increase the treatment time to 10 minutes per area if it did not improve. That was what I did, but papules keep coming. Then one night I had to take a friend to emergency and we waited for a long time. By the time I got home, I did not have the energy to do the light. The next morning I found my skin getting better! Imagine my surprise! Anyway then I realized that I should not be do it every night. I cut down the frequency to 4 times a week, and my skin is improving (rosacea light for cheeks, and AA for other areas.)

HTH

free skin care · Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:31 am

Thanks. Im going to cut down the usage time and see how it goes.

free skin care · Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:29 pm

Here's a good rule of thumb regarding exfoliation; the older you are, the more you need to exfoliate.

I also agree with what has been mentioned about varying a bit from the manufacturer's suggesstions on frequency of use..

Each individuals needs will vary some based on age, skin needs/condition, etc.. I don't believe one size fits all, whether it is LED's or anything else..

The best judge of exactly what "your" skin needs, will be dictated by "your skin".... It will tell you loud and clear what it needs, so just watch for the clues. Personally I don't think ANY LED should be used daily... Why you say? Well here's what I think, and it's just my humble opinion..

The basic job of an LED is to target the fibroblasts, which in turn will generate new collagen.. So now you do a thorough treatment, the fibroblasts are stimulated, which now encourages the mitochondria to make more ATP.. This all works together, to form new collagen.. I believe at this point, a day or two of *rest* is needed to allow the job to be done..

From things I have read while researching this topic to death, I've come across something that's called "Collagen digesting enzymes".. It is only my opinion, but I believe that daily treatments with an LED, could in fact cause this, by *overstimulating* the fibroblast cells..

So the long and short of it, which is only my opinion, is that no LED should be used more frequently than every other day at first, and then twice per week after 6 weeks. Personally though, I had great results, by using my AALS 4 or 5 times per week at first, and then twice per week thereafter. Now, I'm lucky if I get to it once every two weeks, but that is only because life has gotten in the way lately.. I hope to get back to twice per week very soon.

Hope that helps a little, but take it with a grain of salt, as it is only my opinion.

free skin care · Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:56 pm

I "shed" a lot more dead skin since I started using LS. Can I take it as a positive sign of increased cell turnover rate?

free skin care · Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:27 pm

ricayhermosa wrote:

I "shed" a lot more dead skin since I started using LS. Can I take it as a positive sign of increased cell turnover rate?

I'd say yes, especially if you have acids or Retin-A in your regime..(Skin turnover is a very good thing, so just wipe those flakes away with a microfiber cloth.)

If it is not caused by acids plus the LED, then you are experiencing plain old dry skin, and need to up your water intake, and use a nice oil AFTER your treatment.

free skin care · Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:32 pm

Kassy,

I just posted on the AALS thread about ordering my LightStim. When I talked to Steve about everyday use, he told me that there is alot of misinformation on the internet about this. In his opinion, this should be used everyday or you will just have slower results. He said the temp. of the light never goes above 103. So, even if you fell asleep with it on, it wouldn't hurt you. I'm just repeating what he told me. What do you think about this Question

free skin care · Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:52 pm

Songbird wrote:

Kassy,

I just posted on the AALS thread about ordering my LightStim. When I talked to Steve about everyday use, he told me that there is alot of misinformation on the internet about this. In his opinion, this should be used everyday or you will just have slower results. He said the temp. of the light never goes above 103. So, even if you fell asleep with it on, it wouldn't hurt you. I'm just repeating what he told me. What do you think about this Question

Well here's my answer to that.. I've been using it 23 months, and what I posted is what has done me the most good (for me)..

Why not ask Steve if he has used it? If so, than of course consider what he says, but if not, well then, we're back to square one..

Personally I think every day is too much, and the heat it generates has nothing to do with it..

As with everything, we all need to tweak things, to see what benefits us the most.

Perhaps others will share their own experiences, of how they get the best result.

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