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Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:26 pm |
Thanks everyone- this is a valuable discussion. |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:00 pm |
Glad it helped!
P.S. I'm not a professional teacher nor a personal trainer, but I have done some teaching and tutoring, and am trained in science journalism. |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:03 am |
I'm also a user of oils and was thinking, if the exercises could be more efficient, if the face was lubricated before. Should I be connecting those two activities? Could they contribute to each other? |
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:39 am |
Vor wrote: |
I'm also a user of oils and was thinking, if the exercises could be more efficient, if the face was lubricated before. Should I be connecting those two activities? Could they contribute to each other? |
I would think for most facial exercise programs it would be very difficult to get a grip if you had oil on your face. But perhaps someone else has a different take on this? I suppose adding oil while you massage could be benefical or at least make your skin feel good? |
_________________ 43 y/o: dark hair, blue eyes, fair skin... Holy grails are Flex Effect and Retin A. Still trying to find the perfect 'physical' sunscreen |
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:49 am |
I do some of the exercises with oils, and some without. It depends on the exercise itself, and the way I do it. For example when I exercise Zygomaticus I need to have a good grip from inside and outside to pull the muscle, so I do it without oils. But when I concentrate solely on Caput Angulare, I use oils because I provide resistance by sliding fingers along these muscles. And I always do facial massages with oils. |
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Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:22 pm |
Can anyone recommend an exercise to widen one eye? I have noticed one eye is wider than the other. It isn't due to aging skin, but rather to the muscles of one eye being stronger or just the size being different.
I have tried using an exercise where I grip the eyelid of narrower eye while trying to open the eyes wide. I got this from "Ageless if you Dare".
I would also be curious if anyone has had success with this problem?
Thanks in advance! |
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:40 pm |
Freya wrote: |
Can anyone recommend an exercise to widen one eye? I have noticed one eye is wider than the other. It isn't due to aging skin, but rather to the muscles of one eye being stronger or just the size being different.
I have tried using an exercise where I grip the eyelid of narrower eye while trying to open the eyes wide. I got this from "Ageless if you Dare".
I would also be curious if anyone has had success with this problem?
Thanks in advance! |
Hi Freya Yes, I've had success with this exercise over a longer period of time. Both FlexEffect and Ageless have exercises that target this muscle, with the main difference being their grip. I actually prefer a different grip to both, and hold onto my eyelashes, rather than the lid itself. That's what works best for me personally, but you can do whatever works best for you in allowing to feel the muscle really working, while not putting pressure on your eyes. HTH |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:55 pm |
I am curious which exercises these are too. I have both FE and Ageless but have not been keeping up with them. My eyes are shorter because of a stupid surgeon but strengthening the muscle might bring them out a bit.
Thanks. |
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:36 pm |
Freya wrote: |
Can anyone recommend an exercise to widen one eye? I have noticed one eye is wider than the other. It isn't due to aging skin, but rather to the muscles of one eye being stronger or just the size being different.
I have tried using an exercise where I grip the eyelid of narrower eye while trying to open the eyes wide. I got this from "Ageless if you Dare".
I would also be curious if anyone has had success with this problem?
Thanks in advance! |
hopefully the exericises would work for you but its a fact that left n right side of the face are not the same, there are always diffrences, my left is bigger than the right, my left jawline is lower than the right, i like my right ear and not the left..... what do i doooo,lol... just kiding.. we are after all humans and not mannequins or the heavily photoshoped celebs! |
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Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:53 pm |
Hi Freya, If the problem is due *solely* to weakness in the eyelid of one eye being more open than the other, then the muscle you want to target is levator palpebrae superioris. This muscle is targeted by FlexEffect's Upper Lid Lift (exercise 6) or Ageless's Wider Eyes (exercise 9).
Of course, if the problem isn't solely due to weakness in the muscle that opens the eyelid itself, then the solution will involve some combination of exercising the forehead and temporalis muscles (to lift the skin above the eye), as well as exercising the eye muscle itself (orbicularis oculi).
You're best off by training all the muscles of the face, to create facial harmony, rather than spot training....but I did want to help by pointing out which muscle is responsible for opening the eyelid and which exercises target that muscle. HTH |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:57 pm |
I'm guessing this has already been asked, but I'm sorry. This thread's 40+ pages!
Any good exercises to kill off the beginnings of lip lines?
Thanks! |
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bobkerry
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:58 am |
facial excercises seems to be really useful and one can do it regulary too and should do it in order to make their skin healthy fit and fine |
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:38 am |
Truth, there are exercises for liplines..how effective they are is another story entirely...i'm thinking of the lip exercises from Flex Effect third edition..there is a flex effect thread on the Skincare tools forum somewhere..perhaps you can do a search for it..and claudia or one of the other FE trainers may respond to your post..or alternatively you can go to wwwflexeffect.com(i believe that's the address) and join the general forum (there are also forums on that site that you have to have the dvd's to join..but the general forum is for anyone) and ask your question there.
massage is also suggested for all faacial lines/sags...you can do some research on facial massage also on this forum...most facial exercise programs also include massage as part of their program. |
_________________ 71 years, primarily raw living food 35 years(vegan 45 years) herbal tea decoctions, homeopathy, TCM, facial massage, facial exercises, vacu-lifting, gua aha, shiatsu/acupressure, intention, home microcurrrent |
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:39 am |
Senta Maria Runge also has some wonderful exercises for liplines (again don't know if they are effecive or not... but her exercises..for other parts of the face..i have experienced as being effective) there is a free download of her book..i don't know the link...but, again, there is a thread on the skincare tools forum ..so please do a search if you are interested. |
_________________ 71 years, primarily raw living food 35 years(vegan 45 years) herbal tea decoctions, homeopathy, TCM, facial massage, facial exercises, vacu-lifting, gua aha, shiatsu/acupressure, intention, home microcurrrent |
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:07 pm |
truth wrote: |
I'm guessing this has already been asked, but I'm sorry. This thread's 40+ pages!
Any good exercises to kill off the beginnings of lip lines?
Thanks! |
Yes, there are. IMHO, the lip exercises from just about any program (or the free ones on YouTube) will help reduce or get rid of your lip lines. The important thing is to do them consistently.
Also, two other things that will make a big difference here are:
(1) massage (vigorious enough that you can see the increased circulation). e.g., FlexEffect has a massage challenge, where you massage your problem area for 3 minutes 2x a day for 2 weeks, and then report back on your progress.
(2) hydration
HTH |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:58 pm |
This is a great facial exercise from you tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU5btNpAJ0w&feature=related |
_________________ Enjoying dermalogica with my ASG and Pico toner ** Disclosure: I was a participant without remuneration in promotional videos for Ageless Secret Gold and the Neurotris Pico Emmy event. |
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:54 pm |
Hi SeanySean
If I buy Flex Effect 3rd edition, do I need to buy the Method Putkisto Face exercises book as well? |
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Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:54 pm |
Difference between need to and want to.
FE is a complete training program. You will learn to work every muscle in your face, and then some.
IF you WANT to buy something else... that's a personal choice. |
_________________ Claudia of FlexEffect... 43, fair skin, occasional breakout, Using ECO FROG (my own=disclaimer), and TrueScience (I also sell this)... Happy with that...Come visit on FB! |
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Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:21 pm |
Hello everybody!
I'm new here and I have some questions about facial exercises.
I have Carole Maggio's Facercise, FlexEffect and Loulou's Angeless.
The question is can any of those be used by men?
I want to improve my face a bit and facial exercises are the best I could find to help me with this.
The problem is, Carole Maggio has a book "facercise for men" (or something like that), but no video for it and it's hard for me to understand exactly what to do without video. So I'm thinking to use one of the above that has video explanations too.
Thanks for your replies. |
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Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:07 pm |
Yes, they can all be used by men. For the "Facercise for Men" book, from memory it is a shorter program than the original Facercise workout, but I believe that all or virtually all of the exercises in it are in the original Facercise program. So if you do decide to go with it, you can use the original Facercise DVD. FlexEffect also has a DVD to demonstrate the exercises. I recommend avoiding purchasing Ageless due to repeated and extensive poor treatment of customers and bad business practices. The others are both good programs, but are fairly different in their approaches. HTH |
_________________ 34 y.o. FlexEffect and massage. Love experimenting with DIY and botanical skin care products. Appreciate both hard science and natural approaches. Eat green smoothies + lots of raw fruit and veggies. |
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Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:15 am |
If you have FlexEffect, you might want to talk with Sean, he's a guy and a trainer there. I understand with Facercise, and the beginners dvd that used to go with it, that could be done by men and that one of the reasons she wrote Facebuilder for Men was that she had an email from a guy who had amazing results and featured him in that book. In her latest book (Maggio's) and dvd she does have a guy demoing some stuff in that too, so I would say they both can definitely be done by guys too.
Re Ageless, I've not got much recall of any guys doing that program - apart from one who got into a few problems with it and have to say they had terrible customer service. In the end that guy got help from the FlexEffect people, so I wouldn't recommend you touch Ageless with a bargepole to be frank. |
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:34 am |
Do you know any free facial exercising website? |
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:23 am |
Tom Haggerty's site is great, and he has a forum there too. Plus his exercises are freewww.shapeyourface.com
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Do you know any free facial exercising website? |
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Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:16 am |
If you go to Youtube and just search "Facial Exercise" you will find more than enough to get you started. Or you can search just for problem areas, i.e. cheek firming exercises, or chin firming exercises, etc. etc. |
_________________ Derminator, phytoceramides, Retin-A, DIY Vitamin C serum, Ageless if You Dare and Pilates! |
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Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:21 am |
Personally I wouldn’t work just problem areas. You want to do exercises for the face as a whole rather than working just problem areas. There’s a good reason most programs say to do so, and that’s because if you work just a problem area and it starts responding, then the rest of the face can look different in comparison and you then have to try and figure out how to work the rest of the face. Tom’s program is only 5 exercises and seems to hit all the major groups so I’d start out with that. He’s got a dvd that he sells demoing them if you want, and a forum where he answers questions. Otherwise youtube is great for getting an idea of what different programs are like, but I’d try to avoid creating your own program starting out – it makes life really complicated!
Immacolata wrote: |
If you go to Youtube and just search "Facial Exercise" you will find more than enough to get you started. Or you can search just for problem areas, i.e. cheek firming exercises, or chin firming exercises, etc. etc. |
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