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Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:21 am  |
From http://spas.about.com/b/a/257522.htm
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Caution on Home Microdermabrasion Kits
Microdermabrasion is one of the most popular treatments at medical spas and many day spas. It's highly effective but expensive at at least $100 a pop – with a series of four to six usually recommended before you switch to ongoing maintenance. No wonder big consumer product companies are cashing in with $25-$30 home microdermabrasion kits. But these home kits are "a crime to the skin,” according to my esthetics teacher, a highly trained medical esthetician who has an advanced degree in organic chemistry.
In the hands of a trained professional, microdermabrasion is a highly effective means of improving the appearance of the skin. It uses a powerful machine to mechanically spray microcrystals of aluminum oxide or corundum powder across the skin’s surface, removing the dead skin cells.
But these home kits take aluminum oxide crystals, which are second only to diamonds in their hardness, and mix them in a cream that enlarges the pores and literally invites the crystals into the skin, according to my teacher. The home treatments actually clog pores, prevent the skin from breathing and create pimples and breakouts rather than making your skin better.
So my advice is, if you want to exfoliate at home, use a very gentle scrub that your esthetician recommends. Just stay away from the $25 microdermabrasion kits. They're no bargain.
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I really like EpidermX II and started using but i was wondering if this article is true? Also, when does one start using microdermabrasion? i still pretty young and wanted something to refine my pores. what do you ladies think?? |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:50 am |
| I don't know if the article is true or not but I never use those kits anyway. Perhaps I partially agree with what is said as I am very careful with microdermabrasion and have only ever used scrubs from brands that I know like Valmont and Cellcosmet. |
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Skin: Over 60, ex combination now sensitive, Cellcosmet |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:06 am |
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| But these home kits take aluminum oxide crystals, which are second only to diamonds in their hardness, and mix them in a cream that enlarges the pores and literally invites the crystals into the skin, according to my teacher. The home treatments actually clog pores, prevent the skin from breathing and create pimples and breakouts rather than making your skin |
I don't think this is true of the microdermabrasion products we use here (e.g. PSF/EpidermxII because they use condundrum crystals. Besides no users here say they have the problems mentioned above and a lot of us have used long-term before.
I have read reviews of other high street microderm kits which complained of clogging. I'd just be careful to choose the right kind of product with the right kind of crystals. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:17 am |
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| I have read reviews of other high street microderm kits which complained of clogging. |
I bought the Neutrogena Microderm kit a couple years ago and had this problem. It felt like the handheld wand was just pushing the crystals deeper into my skin and rinsing with water wasn't enough to get it out. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:34 am |
| I thought the Neutrogena kit was awful, just useless. But I love the Philosophy kit, love it. I also have a sample of the PSF crystals, and seems fine. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:27 pm |
| same here, i don't use at home microdermabrasion kits. I usually get a peeler cream from my doctor instead to help increase skin turnover. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:11 pm |
| I question this person's "advance degree in organic chemistry" |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:42 pm |
| skincareaddicted wrote: |
| Also, when does one start using microdermabrasion? i still pretty young and wanted something to refine my pores. what do you ladies think?? |
I'm 23 and I did 3 professional microderms earlier this year. I was pretty disappointed with the results, but I've recently started using the Clarisonic and I wish I had gotten it a long time ago. Just after a week of use, my pores are much cleaner and my skin looks brighter. I've been using the gentle brush once a day, but sometimes twice. Depending on your skin, you might want to look into it. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:54 pm |
| Epidermx 1 (the original) was non-comedogenic but I don't know for sure about EpidermxII. |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:35 pm |
Poco,
I just noticed you joined a year ago today....happy anniversary!  |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:42 pm |
Well, whaddaya know--I did! 
Thanks! |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:45 pm |
bushy--I have the cellcosmet scrub sample, and while i do agree it is nice, it doesn't so the same for my skin as epidermx II.
Molly--I didn't understand what you meant by "things getting clogged" but after reading wendy's post from another thread, i think understand what you mean:
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=12816&highlight=silkia+oil
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I read an article on home mda kits and they are not good b/c a professional will have a machine that pulls any excess particles out of your pores should they get in. You don't do that at home so you run the risk of this stuff being left inside your pores. not good. So I use Origins Modern Friction dermabrasion made with rice starch, they do a great job and the particles are too big to get stuck in your pores. Plus the rice starch is natural and not made of Aluminum Oxide.
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So, what you mean is the crystals can get stuck in our pores and enlarge them? you said PSF and epidermx uses condundrum crystals? I don't know what they are. Are they supposed to be less likely to be embedded in pores then? I did notice that the PSF instructs users to not press the crystals into the skin while using the scrub.
my sushi secret--can i ask the reason you were disappointed with your 3 professional microderms?
thanks for the replies  |
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about to hit my 40s, retin-a user, differin, LRP |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:25 pm |
I had 6 professional microderms and they gave me broken capillaries on my cheeks that have never gone away. I told the esthetician about it after the 2nd session, but she just said she didn't think it was from the treatments. Still, she turned the power of the suction down on the machine so that it was barely effective. I should have just asked for a refund for the last 4 sessions!  |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:26 pm |
Origins Modern Friction uses rice starch??!!
I tried a sample and thought the stuff was utter rubbish (sorry, just being honest about what I felt).. I thought it was a microderm product (never even looked at the ingredients ), but now I know it is rice starch I say it is even worse.
My homemade ground rice scrub does a better job (and feels nicer and, I would bet, has better ingredients) than the Origins.
Sorry for the slightly OT rant.. must be stress. |
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SKIN: combination, reactive to climate changes and extremely fair. "Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself." --Roseanne |
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Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:27 pm |
| skincareaddicted wrote: |
my sushi secret--can i ask the reason you were disappointed with your 3 professional microderms?
thanks for the replies |
The reason I went to have a microderm done was because the line of stuff I was using brought a lot of what seemed like dirt to the surface of my skin, but never got rid of it. I thought the exfoliation would help, but it didn't after 3 sessions once a month, so I stopped going. |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:41 am |
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| you said PSF and epidermx uses condundrum crystals? I don't know what they are. Are they supposed to be less likely to be embedded in pores then? |
Hi Skincareaddicted. Conundrum crystals are the same kind as used in professional salon microderm treatments and don't get stuck in the skin. (we discussed this oodles before if anyone wants to search)
I think PSF says not to press hard because it scratches your skin too much if you do (I know! cos I did that) - nothing to do with embedding. |
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Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:41 pm |
| and if anyone is interested, cornumdum is the same material as sapphire. It is the next hardest gemstone after diamond. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:16 am |
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Origins Modern Friction uses rice starch??!!
I tried a sample and thought the stuff was utter rubbish (sorry, just being honest about what I felt).. I thought it was a microderm product (never even looked at the ingredients ), but now I know it is rice starch I say it is even worse.
My homemade ground rice scrub does a better job (and feels nicer and, I would bet, has better ingredients) than the Origins.
Sorry for the slightly OT rant.. must be stress. |
 Rich starch is even worst?!?! I just bought Modern Fiction and tried it once. My friend recommended this to me so I give it a try.
Can you tell me more about it? So is it bad for the skin?? I actually dont really like how it feels on my skin either... but it does make my face smooth after used. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:47 am |
Sorry, Christine.. no, what I meant was that my experience with rice-scub products (either Neal's Yard Remedies Honey & Orange or my own homemade one) has been very good... I am shocked that Origins was a rice-based scrub because I thought it was just so horrible (when I thought it was a microdermabrasion cream, I thought the bad quality was due to the crystal quality or something).
There is absolutely nothing wrong with using the rice powder/ground rice (or rice starch.. though that would be an actual powder, so I dont think that wuold exfoliate very well) |
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SKIN: combination, reactive to climate changes and extremely fair. "Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself." --Roseanne |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:16 pm |
I would second mysushisecret - the clarisonic may well make microdermabrasion a redundant question for you.
I use it and my skin is very refined by it. |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:21 pm |
i am interested in microcrystal effect.
but my friend tell me that my skin couldn't endure it  |
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Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:29 pm |
| I got it done professionally and I was extremely happy with the results. I have tried Dr. Brandt and did not like it as much. |
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Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:00 pm |
| Thank you tiger_tim, I thought rice starch was bad for the face or something |
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