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Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:02 pm  |
| Hi guys! I'm hopeless and I need help! I always get red bumps from irritation on my face after I wash my face every time and I've had this for as long as I remember. However, I can't seem to figure out what it is I'm allergic too. I get it when I use any cleansing products (including body products). Does any one of us know of a way I can figure it out? Thanks! |
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26 with dehydrated combo skin, prone to blackheads and congestions, NC20-25 |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:33 am |
| A good allergist can do a prick/skin test. |
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35 yrs old. L.A. Nutritionist. Food & Cosmetic sensitive skin. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:40 am |
Common Reacters are Botanical extracts (plant extracts), preservatives and fragrances.
In Cleansers it is often the detergent ingrediants, worse offenders are usually the harsher detergents. SLS and SLES are very common "reacters" in body and skin care cleansers, and are in almost all body cleansers.
The worst detergents in order are the anionic, amphoteric, non-ionic
Many links on skincare and pH, as well as a good detergent primer.
http://www.makeupalley.com/user/notepad/marmalade80
Scroll to bottom for detergent listings, “types”, and info on mildness, and senitzing info.
In the Anionic ingredients the worst in order are:
Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) aka sodium lauryl, sodium dodecyl sulfate
Sodium Laurate Sulfate (SLES) aka as sodium laureth
Monoaklkyl phosphate
Sodium Cocoyl isethionate aka as sodium isethionate
I would also address other skincare products you are useing especially Toners, astringents, and Acne Treatment products which often contain alcohol, Witch Hazel Menthol, camphor etc. all irritants that can cause issues. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:54 am |
oh, also be sure to use a clean wash cloth everytime, Re-useing a cloth, sponge or poof can lead to bacterial contamination of the cloth - which is then transfered to the skin , causeing inflamtion of the hair folicules.
And do change towels often if you dry skin with them.
Donot use "hot" water or steam to cleanse skin. Rather use warm comfortable temperatures so as not to stress skin.
And how are you exfoliating? Over exfoliation can certainly lead to sensitivity, especially scrub products. As the scrub particles can scratch and tear the skin surface leading to more sensitivity. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:08 am |
Tangal,
Thank you. I'll look it up very soon.  I seem to always get it from cleansing products (cleansing milk, cleansing foam, cleansing gel, cleansing oil, shower gel), but I do quite often get it from toners, moisturizers and body lotions too. I also get irritated allergic bumps from my own sweat.  I'm just frustrated as dermatologists here are pretty hopeless and allergy tests are quite limited (in terms of things they can test for). I'm thinking about trying to find out what are the common ingredients in the products I'm allergic to (from the ones I already have at hands), but then again, I don't think the law here requires companies to list all the ingredients either. |
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26 with dehydrated combo skin, prone to blackheads and congestions, NC20-25 |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:18 am |
The links I listed will help alot on "ingrediants" to look for for you.
In products in general:
look at Botanicial plant extracts (the links I listed show specific ones)
Fragrances
Preservatives
Those are the MOST common issues overall across the board.
Some people do react to some of the FD&C dyes as well.
In Cleanseing products its usually the detergents first.
In astringents and toners look for Alcohols, Witch Hazels first, then plant extracts (Menthol, Camphor, Mint are very common irritants in these types of things)
Avoid high pH high Alkaline products.
And realize you are certainly probably reacting to more then one ingrediant.
It sounds like overall you skin/body is stressed - which will make you even MORE sensitive.
So first step is to remove as many irritant ingrediants from your treatments.
Then begin Barrier Repair steps on your skin to help it better handle the ingrediant issues.
Make sure you are taking a good multi vitamin, and suppliments that boast skin health, immune system function, and Essentual Fatty Acid Oils. (Fish, Borage are two of the better ones)
Also if your health is stressed, you are suffering from hay fever, or emotional stress it is not unusual for the body to be more sensitive then normal. Menstration and pregnancy can also make you more sensitive.
Many medications can also make the skin super sensitive - Birth Control Pilss commonly cause this. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:19 am |
Sweat sensitivity is often related to poor barrier function overall as well as immune system issues.
Do the sweat bumps appear all over or only on the face? If face only, concider Rosacea as well. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:37 am |
| Tangal wrote: |
Sweat sensitivity is often related to poor barrier function overall as well as immune system issues.
Do the sweat bumps appear all over or only on the face? If face only, concider Rosacea as well. |
I only get red bumps on my face, but on my body I break out with rash. I do suffer from mild eczema though it occurs rather often, but it seems to only trouble the skin on my body. The dermatologists I've seen here don't even know much about eczema as it's not common among Thai people. I'll look up the ingredients as you suggested. Also, how do I find out the pH of products? Thank you so much Tangal for your help. I really really do appreciate it  |
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26 with dehydrated combo skin, prone to blackheads and congestions, NC20-25 |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:44 am |
Lynn let me get some links for you that may help.
Product pH can be tested with pH strips. Please read the link I posted above on "pH, Wait times" etc. That briefly addresses some of the issues with pH.
You can test pH in your products with Litmus or paper pH test strips. Also in the pH thread, I have a link to common USA cleansers and their pH. Not sure if that will cover products you use.
Keep in mind with cleansers, pH can be harder tpo test with paper strips, so it may requster a bit lower then it is.
But you can also usually ask the companys direct, though many evade the ansewer,...LOL
But generally speaking 75% or more of detergent based cleansers are to high a pH. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:47 am |
| I'm currently using Yon-Ka Cleansing Milk which I really love and got no allergic reaction from it (yet!!) and Shu Uemura Cleansing Oil Enriched (now my skin reacts differently to this one depending on what mood my skin is in that day). |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:49 am |
| Tangal wrote: |
Lynn let me get some links for you that may help.
Product pH can be tested with pH strips. Please read the link I posted above on "pH, Wait times" etc. That briefly addresses some of the issues with pH.
You can test pH in your products with Litmus or paper pH test strips. Also in the pH thread, I have a link to common USA cleansers and their pH. Not sure if that will cover products you use.
Keep in mind with cleansers, pH can be harder tpo test with paper strips, so it may requster a bit lower then it is.
But you can also usually ask the companys direct, though many evade the ansewer,...LOL
But generally speaking 75% or more of detergent based cleansers are to high a pH. |
Also, is it possible for you to send me the link to the thread please? I'm hopeless when it comes to searching something on EDS. There are just so many threads on here.  Thanks!!!! |
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26 with dehydrated combo skin, prone to blackheads and congestions, NC20-25 |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:03 pm |
The internet will provide you with a wealth of info, which can help.
Eczema info:
http://www.paulaschoice.com/learn/art.asp?ID=141
http://www.skincarephysicians.com/eczemanet/whatis.html
(see additional links on the left)
http://familydoctor.org/176.xml
http://www.eczema.org/faqfile.htm
http://www.nationaleczema.org/home.html
I would really suggest you conceder beginning to use Emu Oil daily or more often on all effected skin. It can really help. It probably will not help by itself, but is certainly one step that go do a lot over all to get things working better.
I am sure it is available in your country; it may be harder to find. But look in health food type stores Its usually sold as a skin acre oil. Only buy “100% Pure refined Emu oil” – Many companys add other oils etc. as additives. As sensitive as your skin is – you DONOT want that.
I have a friend with this also, And for her addition of Skin Biology Copper Peptides serum made a hugh difference for her. Her face was so sensitive to everything, even most makeups. And no medication helped. When she added the copper, she noticed a big benefit. She uses it with a prescribed cream/lotion on her face now.
The medicated products alone did not work for her, but combined with Emu oil and Copper Peptide serum she has had a dramatic turn around.
Bioheal is an even milder option that may suit you better. (same company)
http://www.bioheal.com/eczema.html
It is probably not available in your country, though you can email the company and ask. They do have some international locations and I “think” ship worldwide. But you need to check with them first.
http://www.skinbiology.com/
I personally don’t recommend the Skin Biology cleanser because of Ph.
Here is an example of pH paper test strips so you can look for them. Usually in drugstores. Get full range 1-14 level ones. Also called Litmus test paper.
Heres the strips.
http://www.indigo.com/science-supplies/ph-paper.html
Heres the roll type.
http://www.snowdriftfarm.com/phtest.html
You are welcome to PM me if you prefer. |
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