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heaven1994
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Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:06 pm  |
Hi, I am not new but I don't post often. Can someone please tell me what I need for a routine?
I have fair mature dry skin, no break outs, small pores. My biggest problem is redness. I don't think it is rosasa, but have not been to a derm. Red blotchy skin on nose and a tiny bit on cheeks.
Right now I am using only olay soap, and copper peptide's from Skin Bio, and emu oil. I must say I am not good at keeping a routine, and sometimes go to bed with makeup still on. I have had this red skin for a couple of years and have tried lots of different stuff, nothing seems to work. If I should get a zit or mark on my face it seems to take weeks to disappear. What should I be using or not using.
Thanks for all the help that all of you informed people give to me and to others, who dont have a clue. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:17 pm |
Personally I would drop the Olay cleanser. All the Olay ones are detergents based, sounds like you skin is already stressed, so you don't need added stres from detergents. Many are to high a pH also - more skin stress.
Try this Azulene Gel Cleanser. Great for stressed skin, and 5.5 pH. and mild detergent free.
http://www.geografx-cosmetics.com/products-FacialCare-2.html#Gentle%20Azulene%20Gel%20Wash
You may need to adjust or dilute your Copper, not sure how long you have been useing it.
I would also add a Rooibos or Tea rinse or treatment in your regament. You can buy the Antioxidant only Blend here - which is basicially Roobos Red Tea, with added antioxidants.
http://www.ifeelprettyproducts.com/dmae_antioxidants.htm
Very soothing and well help alot on the redness. i would use it once or twice daily, you can mix it with your Emu also.
You can also make your own with Tea bags and distilled water. |
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heaven1994
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:58 pm |
| Thanks Tangal! When you say I can make my own tea rinse...just regular tea and water? |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:58 pm |
Best result are from organic green (unripe) Rooibos Tea (also called Red Tea, or African Tea). It has the highest concentration of anti-inflammatory. etc. But you can substitute regular Black Tea (pekoe), White Tea or Green Tea. All are good options.
I personally do recommend organic if you can get it locally, (it is available online from many sources) But you can also use non-organic. That’s okay to, just not the best ption.
Normally you can find the tea bags available in most Grocery Stores, Just be sure to get plain 100% Rooibos (or other) tea without other plant additives which could irritate your skin. Celestial Seasonings make some as do other companys.
Use Distilled water if at all possible.
Boil about 4 ounces of distilled water in a glass cup. After boiling, add one to two teabags, let brew for 30 - 60 minutes. This allows the strongest concentration of anti oxidants, anti-inflammatory, polyphenols, in your solution. (Start with one teabag on your first solution, if you do okay with that you can make a stronger solution next time with two tea bags)
Let cool. You now have a basic Tea rinse. You can spray this on skin once or twice daily under your Copper or moisturizer. (apply it to clean skin with out anything underneath.) Either spritz into hand and pat onto skin, or apply with a cotton ball.
This is soothing for irritated skin, and very good for redness, red spots slow healing pimples or irritation. It is also good on sunburns. You can apply all through the day if you choose or spot apply to zits.
If you will not add any preservative, you can store, sealed in the refrigerator in a sterilized opaque container for about 3 to 5 days. After that remake solution, or remake if it starts to smell stale or off.
If you add a preservative, you can store on your bathroom counter for about one year. |
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heaven1994
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:15 pm |
Tangal, I will probably end up just buying it, but just in case I want to start this tonight and want to add preservative, what is it and where can I get it.
I don't mean to keep asking such dumb questions. Thanks for all your help! You have given me so much to read, and the info on PH is very interesting. Back to reading.
Heaven |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:38 pm |
No question is a dumb one unless you don't ask it! 
Just because you are not as knowledgeable in one area as someone else, does not make you dumb. None of use knows everything - we are all "dumb" about something. But we can learn - so alls good.
A preservative is added to the product to stabilize it and lessen bacterium growth. There are a few kinds, but generally all will need to be ordered online. And measurements can be a bit tricky if you do not have a small enough measuring device.
Syringes with CC marks work, as do special measuring spoons with Drop, Dash, Smidge, Tad measurements.
So for now, just making up a batch to use for a few days and remaking is probably your best bet. Its very easy to make.
If you want to add a preservative, do not add to much, as that can be irritating also. I use either Liquipar Optima or Germaben II.
Figure roughly about .06 – 1.2 cc or less per one ounce of total product volume. (30 cc total) You would want between .5% and 1% preservative (per total product volume) in this type of product.
1 teaspoon is 5 cc
1 ounce is 30 cc
1/5 teaspoon or a “tad” measuring spoon is 1 cc.
www.thepersonalformulator.com andwww.gardenofwisdom.com sell preservatives as do many other online sources. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:38 pm |
| Tangal, I know you like Azulene cleanser from Geographx--so do I. It does have decyl glucoside in it though, which is a detergent. It is a very mild detergent from what I understand, and most people except the most strident detergent-avoiders don't object to it. I used to avoid detergents in cleansers completely but now if the ph is good and the detergent/s are mild, I have just as good results. |
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Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:43 pm |
Thanks for the clarification.  |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:07 am |
If heaven doesn't mind me hijacking this thread I have a related concern that I am hoping Tangal Or any other EDS member can help with  .
On both my cheeks I have slightly red dots and smears. Ok this sounds disgusting but it isn't really that bad. The skin tone just doesn't look even and the red dots are usually where I have tiny bumps that look like insect bumps but aren't!
My cheeks aren't oily at all and I have thankfully only gotten a zit once in this area, so I don't think it is me being blemish proned.
What can I use? What should I use? Totally confused, especially after all this reading.  |
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Mid-20s Asian female (since I am not mature enough to be called a woman ). Skin is combination with tendency to dryness around the cheeks and prone to blemishes. Naturally coarse black hair  . Lastly but most importantly, you need something purchased in Australia I will be happy to CP  :. |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:39 am |
| i think juice beauty redness reduce serum could help you |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:00 am |
Heaven1994: I have rosacea and have been seeing a derm for it for about 5 years. It's mostly on my nose (call me Rudolph) and secondarily on my cheeks. My skin is now under control, and most people do not know I have rosacea.
Tangal's advice is wonderful. I would add that the thing that has made the most difference in helping my skin is Metrogel, a prescription antibiotic gel. I use the tiniest amount, about half a drop (one tube will last me the whole year), in the morning on clean skin (I apply it first). I hate the idea of using antibiotics long-term, even in such a small dose. Every six months or so, I try to wean myself off of the Metrogel, but the redness always comes back. So I end up going back on it, but it does work wonders.
Another thing that has really helped is an herb called helichrysum and the rosacea synergy blend sold by Nature's Gift (www.naturesgift.com). You could make your own helichrysum hydrosol by ordering helichrysum from an herbal tea site like Mountain Rose Herbs (http://www.mountainroseherbs.com). I'm going to try that when I run out of the Nature's Gift stuff.
Over the years, I have tried a lot of the anti-redness/rosacea products, like the anti-redness kit by MD Formulations, Eucerin, and Murad. They haven't helped at all, although I did find that I like MD Formulations Glycolic Cleanser, which does not irritate my sensitive skin. I use it a couple of times a week.
Good luck!
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I have fair mature dry skin, no break outs, small pores. My biggest problem is redness. I don't think it is rosasa, but have not been to a derm. Red blotchy skin on nose and a tiny bit on cheeks... |
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Best, Jeannine (40s, fair skin, hazel eyes, sensitive skin). To fight the dread lemming sickness, I promise not to rave about a product until I have used it for a long while. |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:04 am |
Cuppre: When I'm overzealous with my active products, e.g., especially too much Vit C serum, I find that I get little red dots and marks. Could that be the cause?
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| ... on both my cheeks I have slightly red dots and smears. ... |
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Best, Jeannine (40s, fair skin, hazel eyes, sensitive skin). To fight the dread lemming sickness, I promise not to rave about a product until I have used it for a long while. |
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:47 pm |
| Jeannine wrote: |
Cuppre: When I'm overzealous with my active products, e.g., especially too much Vit C serum, I find that I get little red dots and marks. Could that be the cause?
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| ... on both my cheeks I have slightly red dots and smears. ... |
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Don't think so Jeannine. I have had it before I started the whole skincare obsession and the side that I am putting on a Vit-C gel on, it has had no reaction to it. Neither good nor bad. 
That's why I am puzzled as to whether I have dry skin, congested skin, some kind of skin problem or what? |
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Mid-20s Asian female (since I am not mature enough to be called a woman ). Skin is combination with tendency to dryness around the cheeks and prone to blemishes. Naturally coarse black hair . Lastly but most importantly, you need something purchased in Australia I will be happy to CP :. |
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