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Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:51 pm  |
I am wanting a physical sunscreen with all natural ingredients that does not look like it leaves a sheen , or is mattifying, but not too drying.
I've been using "UV Natural" brand of sunscreen, it's real oily, which is fine for my arms since they are dry, but I am wanting something for the face/neck that is mattifying but that doesn't leave a white cast, all natural , and isn't too drying.
I don't know much about sunscreens, really.
I hate using powder on my face, also. |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:25 pm |
You might like Dr. Hauschka's sunscreens--there's an SPF 20 cream and one for children (SPF 22). The active ingredient is titanium dioxide, a physical sunscreen. I can't vouch for the finish (it will vary depending on skin type).
SPF 20 ingredients: Water (Aqua), Jojoba (Buxus chinensis) Oil, Alcohol, Sesame (Sesamum Indicum) Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Tricaprylin, Shea (Butyrospermum parkii) Butter, Quince (Pyrus cydonia) Seed Extract, Glycerin, Mesembryanthemum Crystallium Extract, Polyglycerol-3 Polycrinoleate, Lecithin, Avocado (Persea gratissima) Extract, Sucrose Distearate, Betaine, Oryanol, Aluminum Hydroxide, Stearyl Beeswax, Bethenyl Beeswax, Fragrance (from natural essential oils), Linalool*, Geraniol*, Citral*, Limonene*, Citronellol*, Benzl Benzoate*, Farnesol*, Hydrated Silica, Esculin, Propolis (Propolis Cera) *components of natural essential oils
SPF 22 ingredients: Water (Aqua), Rose (Rosa canina) Hip Extract, Peanut (Arachis hypogaea) Oil, Titanium Dioxide, Alcohol, Jojoba (Buxus chinensis) Oil, Quince (Pyrus cydonia) Seed Extract, Shea (Butyrospermum parkii) Butter, Horse Chestnut (Aesculus hippocastanum) Bark Extract, Sweet Almond (Prunus dulcis) Oil, Sucrose Distearate, Seabuckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides) Extract, Rose (Rosa gallica) Petal Extract, Lecithin, Rose (Rosa canina) Seed Oil, Avocado (Persea gratissima) Extract, Candelilla (Candelilla Cera), Oryzanol, Fragrance (essential oil), Xanthan Gum, Esculin, Propolis (Propolis Cera) |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:33 pm |
| Clinique cityblock is a physical sunscreen, it is available in SPF 15, 25 and 40. |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:48 pm |
| This has been a concern of mine, too. I am going to look into COTZ (Contains Only Titanium & Zinc) SPF58, which I never heard of until reading about it here at EDS! |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:34 pm |
I just got the sunblock from Zenbiotic--- the ingredients look great, but I haven't tested it yet so I can't tell you any more than that yet. You can buy it for $12.95 atwww.zenbiotic.com, and the ingredients are:
Organic fresh inner leaf and gel of Aloe Vera, Vitamin E, zinc, calcium, magnesium, antioxidants, wheat amino acids, vitamins C, A, B, other minerals and vitamins. |
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27, sensitive/reactive/acne prone skin, dark brown hair, blue eyes, possibly the palest woman alive... |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:29 pm |
Hey Manslayer,
Let us know how you like that sunscreen.  |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:57 pm |
| Maybe Alba Botanica. I know some physical sunscreens but I cannot guarantee that they are all natural. I think Alba products are all derived from plants. |
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Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:58 pm |
| manslayerliz wrote: |
I just got the sunblock from Zenbiotic--- the ingredients look great, but I haven't tested it yet so I can't tell you any more than that yet. You can buy it for $12.95 atwww.zenbiotic.com, and the ingredients are:
Organic fresh inner leaf and gel of Aloe Vera, Vitamin E, zinc, calcium, magnesium, antioxidants, wheat amino acids, vitamins C, A, B, other minerals and vitamins. |
That sounds like a great sunscreen. I am looking forward to your review.  |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:57 am |
Thought I'd share my experiences:
Dr Hauschka; a must for beach holidays as it really blocks out all the r days and I did not tan in two weeks. Far to white and heavy for every day use unfortunately.
Barefoot Botanicals; pleasant texture, but strong smell of essential oils. Only spf 8.
Caudalie; very cosmetically elegant formula in this day cream with spf 8. The spf is micro encapsulated to protect against break down of spf and irritation. They have removed all parabens, so it is natural, but not organic. It is a shame I just found it too perfumed in the end. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:46 am |
| manslayerliz wrote: |
I just got the sunblock from Zenbiotic--- the ingredients look great, but I haven't tested it yet so I can't tell you any more than that yet. You can buy it for $12.95 atwww.zenbiotic.com, and the ingredients are:
Organic fresh inner leaf and gel of Aloe Vera, Vitamin E, zinc, calcium, magnesium, antioxidants, wheat amino acids, vitamins C, A, B, other minerals and vitamins. |
Liz are those all the ingredients? It seems that this has no active ingredients. Unless the zinc is actually zinc oxide??  |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:09 am |
I tried the Hauschka spf20 for daily use and my daughter told me "not to hurt your feelings but you are really pale lately."
I think the problem of finding a non whitening sunscreen is much harder for darker complexions. I'm hispanic and italian so I have the olive thing going. Even when I try mixing some Hauschka Bronze Concentrate with my sunscreens they are always lighter than me and just look weird. I got so frustrated that I've gone about a week sunscreen free. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:17 am |
Theresa,
Those are the ingredients for the zenbiotics, it just lists it as zinc.
I was checking out the COTZ and looks good, but the clear one that's SPF 65 contains these as the first 3 active ingredients: Benzophenone-3, Octocrylene, Octinoxate and then followed by Titanium Dioxide, Zinc Oxide.
Are the first three chemical? Are those stable? |
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26, combination skin with oily t-zone |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:50 am |
ariesxtreme yes the first three ingredients are chemical. I did some quick research on the stability issue and it would appear that octinoxate is not photostable but octocrylene is. I got the impression that Benzophenone-3 is photostable but I couldn't find anything definite on this. I know that octocrylene is used to stablilze avobenzone so I suppose it is possible that it might stabilize other sunscreen ingredients.
Doing a quick search on octinoxate and some of what I have just read (about free radicals and photostability) has made me somewhat more concerned about this ingredient. Maybe I should really look into this since almost all my sunscreens contain it. The Benzophenone-3 reading that I did also raised some concerns (about being absorbed by the skin). Not being alarmist but something that I definetly need to research!
On the Zenbiotic sunscreen, as far as I know zinc as opposed to zinc oxide is not a UV filter. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:06 am |
| Then the COTZ SPF 58 looks like a decent sunscreen, since it contains zinc oxide and titanium dioxide as the only 2 active ingredients. May look into this one a bit more as an option. Right now I'm alternating between the Shiseido and the Bioderma Max Creme. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:28 am |
I love Epicuren Discovery Zinc Oxide SPF20. It doesn't break me out (almost everything else does) and leaves little or no whitish cast (I don't notice one on me).
I've also heard good things about DeVita's ZO sunscreen, which I believe is SPF30. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:35 am |
Thank you everyone, I couldn't use the COTZ sunscreen, it has "chemical" ingredients in there I can't use, I think it has glycols and some others?
The Zenbiotic sounds promising.
To "BBD", I **LOVE** DeVita products, they are natural, so I'm gonna check that one out , thanks, and I hope this thread keeps going until we find the perfect one |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:57 am |
Finding the right sunscreen is beginning to feel like quite a feat!  It amazes me, because it seems so essential these days! I wish there was more research about it. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:15 am |
| I haven't tried the Zenbiotic one on my face yet so I'll have to report back when I do, but I've been using it on my hands for the past few days and the initial results are VERY promising! The texture is very thin and milky, and when you first pump it out it's white and opaque, so I was worried that it might leave a white cast on my skin. However, within seconds it was completely absorbed and all the traces of white were gone. The texture of my skin after I apply the sunblock is soft and silky--- not a hint of greasiness or stickiness. My hands were exposed to sun for several hours during a long car ride and they didn't show a hint of redness, either. I'm looking forward to trying this on my face! You can buy a 1 oz bottle for 6.95 at zenbiotic.com, so I feel like the price is very reasonable--- I'm going to order a larger bottle next time. |
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27, sensitive/reactive/acne prone skin, dark brown hair, blue eyes, possibly the palest woman alive... |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:21 am |
| Liz do you have any clue how the Zenbiotic sunscreen works? I am not seeing anything in this that would offer adequate UV protection. Also, when you said you used this on a long car ride do you mean a long car ride with the windows up or down? If the windows were up the glass itself would have protected your skin from the burning UVB rays. |
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Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:24 am |
| TheresaL wrote: |
| Liz do you have any clue how the Zenbiotic sunscreen works? I am not seeing anything in this that would offer adequate UV protection. Also, when you said you used this on a long car ride do you mean a long car ride with the windows up or down? If the windows were up the glass itself would have protected your skin from the burning UVB rays. |
Actually I'm not sure--- someone may want to email Robert for specifics. However, the opacity of the product leads me to believe that the zinc on the label is zinc oxide. Also, my windows were rolled up, but I've gotten burned on long car rides with the windows up many a time--- these days I almost always wear gloves or sunscreen. Sorry I can't be of more help! |
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27, sensitive/reactive/acne prone skin, dark brown hair, blue eyes, possibly the palest woman alive... |
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