What's Your Skin Eating ? Read cosmetic labels!
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:48 pm Quote

Hi

Just a thought for every one who uses cosmetics.

Please read your labels. I know the pretty colours & packaging look tempting and seduce us into buying them but 99.9% of cosmetics & skin & body products are a chemical cocktail and nothing more than a chemical factory in a pretty bottle or tube. The cosmetics industry is largely unregulated and most manufacturers can put in what ever they like... and they do !!
For example.... Did you know that a product that contains lavender is actually a tea bag dipped in a vat of the petrochemical propyline glycol...that bleached creamy stuff that glides on our skin ! YUUUK ! The manufacturer can now claim it has a natural ingredient in their $8.oo or $150 moisturiser...believe me there is no difference in brands.... ohh except the pricey packaging which is what you are really paying for that get thrown away anyway! Most of the time you DO NOT get what you pay for !!!
If the first ingredient happens to be 'water' then that's what you are mainly paying for and of course the complimentary dose of chemicals and synthetic perfumes that follow the water.
Ladies & Gentlemen you have to start being savvy about ingredients. Many consumers are demanding healthy skin care products today. Remember... your skin is your bodies largest organ and what you apply on it gets absorbed into your body.

We have enormous power with our purchases.
Invest your money in companies that do make cosmetics & skin products that are healthy for you and the environment.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:11 pm Quote

Thanks.... Rolling Eyes

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:43 pm Quote

Organic Skin Biz wrote:

Hi

Just a thought for every one who uses cosmetics.

Please read your labels. I know the pretty colours & packaging look tempting and seduce us into buying them but 99.9% of cosmetics & skin & body products are a chemical cocktail and nothing more than a chemical factory in a pretty bottle or tube. The cosmetics industry is largely unregulated and most manufacturers can put in what ever they like... and they do !!
For example.... Did you know that a product that contains lavender is actually a tea bag dipped in a vat of the petrochemical propyline glycol...that bleached creamy stuff that glides on our skin ! YUUUK ! The manufacturer can now claim it has a natural ingredient in their $8.oo or $150 moisturiser...believe me there is no difference in brands.... ohh except the pricey packaging which is what you are really paying for that get thrown away anyway! Most of the time you DO NOT get what you pay for !!!
If the first ingredient happens to be 'water' then that's what you are mainly paying for and of course the complimentary dose of chemicals and synthetic perfumes that follow the water.
Ladies & Gentlemen you have to start being savvy about ingredients. Many consumers are demanding healthy skin care products today. Remember... your skin is your bodies largest organ and what you apply on it gets absorbed into your body.

We have enormous power with our purchases.
Invest your money in companies that do make cosmetics & skin products that are healthy for you and the environment.

I think the forum members make informed choices about their skin care and are very aware of different ingredients. Is there, perhaps, one particular brand of skin care you would like to reccomend?

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:46 pm Quote

I think the forum members make informed choices about their skin care and are very aware of different ingredients. Is there, perhaps, one particular brand of skin care you would like to reccomend?

Careful now, Smoothskin. This might be considered entrapment. Laughing

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:50 pm Quote

You are so funny, I just could not help it - someone had to take the bait Laughing

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:56 pm Quote

I know. I just get a little leery of multiple identical "preachy" posts from a newbie. Bad Grin

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:00 pm Quote

yeah, try to stick with environment friendly products.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:11 pm Quote

Oh, you KNOW she's going to come back on here and point everyone to that no-paraben line that markets in MLM (direct sales). Laughing

I forget the name of it but I'm tired of that same paraben-paranoia sales pitch.

Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:17 pm Quote

Entrapment Arielle? (very pretty name)
No not at all.
Smoothskin... many of us think we know about ingredients in our personal care and cosmetic products but the truth is we are deceived by marketing hype. We need to become very aware and educated about ingredients. As a test have a peek at the label of your shampoo bottle for example or your hand cream. Can you pronounce the ingredients. I guarantee the ingredients you are familiar with are way down the bottom of the label and are so minute in quantity they barely exist. Yes I can recommend a beautiful range of skin care products. As a beauty therapist myself and very familiar with skin care products I have searched and searched and questioned for years the effects of all these chemicals we plaster unthinkingly onto our bodies every day of the year, year in year out.
It's ok to question ingredients. Just because they are sold on the shelf at a ritzy Spa or supermarket doesn't mean by any stretch that they are 'safe'. Another challenge to any one is to go for a walk down the baby aisle of your fav supermarket and read the labels on baby bath care it reads like a horror story !!!! Anyway.... the long term effects of these petrochemicals and synthetics are not known but why is it that farmers and beauty industry workers have some of the highest rates of work related illness...It isn't too difficult to figure. I'm not on my soapbox here
but the lack of education in the beauty industry is enormous.
It's Not that people don't care it's just that they don't know.
It really is about making safe choices for your health. If anyone wishes to know what I use and recommend you can email skinbiz@bigpond.net.au

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:19 pm Quote

I can scarcely believe it. Do I have to bother my pretty head about what's in stuff?!

I'll have to go have a nice lie down.

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:30 pm Quote

PocoLoco wrote:

Oh, you KNOW she's going to come back on here and point everyone to that no-paraben line that markets in MLM (direct sales). Laughing

I forget the name of it but I'm tired of that same paraben-paranoia sales pitch.

Could it be Miessence?

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:37 pm Quote

EDS I think has some of the most educated people about skincare.

I don't think anyone here (any of those that have been on the forum awhile) falls for marketing hype anymore.

Falling for marketing hype is what brought me to the forum, with my desire to arm myself with a better understanding about skincare.

I feel like you're kinda preaching to the choir Laughing

ETA: This post that started this topic was posted verbatim in another thread. Hmmm....

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:54 pm Quote

That's why my earlier comment about "multiple identical "preachy" posts". It just makes me wonder, that's all.

Ari

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:03 pm Quote

I'm a googlaholic:
http://www.healthypages.net/classifieds/viewad.asp?id=2303138380101584

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:05 pm Quote

Smoothskin- Very astute of you Smile

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:10 pm Quote

PocoLoco wrote:

Thanks.... Rolling Eyes

Hehe....

enjoys freebies · Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:50 pm Quote

Wow, is this type of posting allowed?

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:03 am Quote

The worst thing is that Org.Skin.Biz. didn't even bother to read at least some of the threads hear in the forum - otherwise she'd know that we're able to pronounce sodium laureth sulfate or propylen-glycol (not to mention the parabens!), and we even know what's behind. I think we have here a very lively discussion about ingredients and if she's up to convince us about new products or anything then her future comments must be on a much higher level than those in this thread.

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:42 am Quote

Usually these types of posters only post a few times and then we never see them again.
I don't know if that's because the moderators get them or because the read all our responses and decide not dig their holes deeper! Bad Grin

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:56 am Quote

I think their only reason for posting is that they're trolling for new customers--people who fall for the speil and send them an email asking, "What do you use and where can I get it?"

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:52 am Quote

It's not the first time, and certainly won't be the last. And I agree with ParisTroika, most of us don't fall for that kind of marketing hype anyway! Bad Grin

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:09 pm Quote

As a cosmetic chemist by profession and as a member of both the International Federation of the Society of Cosmetic Chemists and the California Chapter of the Society of Cosmetic Chemists, I take deep offense to the posts by Organic Skin Biz in this thread.

I could literally write a book here disputing the "horror story" claims she is making. I think I would start with the making of lavender by dipping a tea bag in a vat of "propyline glycol". But, since the person spelled "propylene" wrong, I obviously don't have to do that (enough said!).

I wouldn't for one second be in this industry if I knew that we were using chemical ingredients that were harming the people that buy the product. In today's law suit crazy society do you think any cosmetic company could survive if it put toxic substances in consumer products?!

And, the post says something very important that the poster probably didn't pick up:
"As a beauty therapist myself and very familiar with skin care products I have searched and searched and questioned for years the effects of all these chemicals we plaster unthinkingly onto our bodies every day of the year, year in year out."

Well, if consumers are using these products every day, year in and year out, why haven't we learned of all the deaths, and injuries caused by these products??!! It's because there aren't any, and the consumer products that people use ARE safe and HAVE BEEN TESTED to be safe.

Please, if you have a specific example of ANY raw material found in the CTFA Dictionary (which is approved for cosmetic use) let me know about it. I'd be willing to debate anything you come up with.

As for the EDS forum folks, I find most if not all of them to be well educated on ingredients, ingredient labeling and consumer products. It's always a pleasure to read through the posts on this formum.

John

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:07 pm Quote

incidentally,

my skin is eating bayer noncoated aspirin and yogurt this very instant. mmmmmmm-mmmm!

--avalange

Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:29 pm Quote

Ladies! Ladies! I see I have certainly stirred up a 'hornet's nest'and certainly do not wish to 'offend' anyone.
Why such hostility?
I know I'm a 'neewbie' but you were once to... right?
Yes chemicals in cosmetics is a very hot topic and one of high importance. Your defensive responses are not unusual... I speak to many people face to face about chemicals in cosmetics and most are surprised to learn what their daily moisturiser etc contains. Some people couldn't care less and that's fine... it's their choice as is yours to read the info I have posted.
As I read the other posts on EDS I see many are confused and wonder about this product or that product and who has tried this or that. Some of you recommend brands so is that not in effect 'selling'? I'm sure the manufacturers of those 'brands' would not object at all!
Yes the products I use and recommend are my business products... so what ! If anyone wants to know about them I'll send then my link.
It is your choice what you do with the information.
Lets not loose sight of the message in my earlier posts...Read Your Cosmetic Labels and educate your self about ingredients.
It appears lots of you are aware about ingredients... that's fantastic...but for those of you who aren't you can do your own research and a fantastic website is safe cosmetics Don't worry it is completely generic and an informative tool on ingredients in cosmetics.

Can I ask how many of you on EDS are beauty industry workers and if so do you come across clients with MCS or Multiple Chemical Sensitivity or those that simply react to many skin products they use.

enjoys freebies · Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:38 pm Quote

If I recommend a product to someone because I liked it, I don't get any money from that. So no, I'm not "selling" a product. Yeah, the company might appreciate the word of mouth advertising but I'm not receiving any monetary compensation for it.

If I were a rep. for X company and recommended products that I happen to sell and directed people to a website (phone number, etc.) or where I received profit through what they purchased...then I would be selling what I recommend.

There is a difference. You can't deny skepticism from people when someone appears to be pushing their own products. Yes, there is a fine line between cosmetics reps coming on here and answering questions, offering specials to forum members versus touting/selling products on here...but I think the moderators do a good job to police that.

I DO read cosmetics labels and try to educate myself on what I put on my face. I'm not ignorant.
And just because I post a thread asking if anyone has experience with a product doesn't make me less of an educated consumer.

But I disagree that when I recommend something I am "selling" it. I make no profit, monetary or otherwise. What the companies think of that is on them.

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