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havana8
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:37 pm  |
I ran across this the other day when passing through TSC. Has anyone heard of it? Clarins' is touting it as a "worldwide first". Here is the intro write-up...
If electromagnetic waves can penetrate walls, imagine what they can do to your skin. Today, electromagnetic waves generated by a host of modern day devices join the list of well-known pollutants which can damage skin. For the first time, Clarins Research has revealed the link between accelerated skin ageing and exposure to artificial electromagnetic waves.* Clarins introduces Expertise 3P™ (Poly Pollution Protection) – a worldwide first.
From the skin care experts at Clarins to you - ramp up your skin care regimen with E3p Screen Mist, a new health and beauty treatment that helps protect your skin from all types of known pollutants, including electromagnetic waves. This mist acts as a shield, coating it with an imperceptible and invigorating film.
* Clarins discovery. The subject of a scientific research paper.
What do you make of it?
http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/category/beauty.do?e=1&Ne=100025&N=100038+126159&cm_re=A-_-HPN-_-061228Clarins |
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:48 pm |
| havana8 wrote: |
I ran across this the other day when passing through TSC. Has anyone heard of it? Clarins' is touting it as a "worldwide first". Here is the intro write-up...
If electromagnetic waves can penetrate walls, imagine what they can do to your skin. Today, electromagnetic waves generated by a host of modern day devices join the list of well-known pollutants which can damage skin. For the first time, Clarins Research has revealed the link between accelerated skin ageing and exposure to artificial electromagnetic waves.* Clarins introduces Expertise 3P™ (Poly Pollution Protection) – a worldwide first.
From the skin care experts at Clarins to you - ramp up your skin care regimen with E3p Screen Mist, a new health and beauty treatment that helps protect your skin from all types of known pollutants, including electromagnetic waves. This mist acts as a shield, coating it with an imperceptible and invigorating film.
* Clarins discovery. The subject of a scientific research paper.
What do you make of it?
http://www.theshoppingchannel.com/category/beauty.do?e=1&Ne=100025&N=100038+126159&cm_re=A-_-HPN-_-061228Clarins |
the words, "coating and film" freak me out. I am a nut over stuff filming on my face, can't imagine putting makeup on over that!!! |
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:06 pm |
| i am a huge clarins fan, but that does sound kinda freaky!what do you guys think? |
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:16 pm |
| haha, you know what?that seems like something micheal jackson would use, for those psycho type of ppl..heheheh |
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havana8
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:29 pm |
it sounds like a sort of "sunscreen" mist to protect you from your laptop or ipod...  is that even possible?  it sounds too tinfoil-hat crazy! |
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:45 pm |
I like Clarins too, - but this stuff makes me snort. I watched the Clarins reps on the Canadian Shopping Channel blethering on about it and they said nothing that even nearly convinced me that this stuff isn't snake oil. From what I know so far, this stuff sounds ridiculous to an almost insulting degree. Xray techs wear lead overcoats for a reason. If this 3P stuff did anything remotely similar to protecting us from electromagnetic waves then it would be headline news. Clarins claims that it "helps to protect" - and nothing else...well so will a layer of nivea cream...the question is to what degree does
it protect? We don't hear squat about that. I'd love to hear more about the science of this. If there is anyone out there can shed light - please enlighten us  ..Until then, all I have to say is "SNORT".
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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:10 pm |
Ha. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I noticed this in a Sephora email I received and did a search on EDS to see if anything had been said about it.
I mean, what's so special about the ingredients that would make it a "worldwide first"?:
Water, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Water, Butylene Glycol, Sodium Chloride, Thermus Thermophillus Ferment, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Lapsana Communis Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Biosaccharide Gum-4, Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract, Biotin, Phenoxyethanol, Disodium EDTA, Potassium Sorbate, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol.
In Clarins' words:
-Thermus Thermophilus (marine micro-organism): Survives extremes in temperature.
-Rhodiola Rosea (perennial plant extract): Exceptional capacity for resistance.
-White Tea (plant extract): Fights free radicals and pollution.
-Succory Dock-Cress (annual plant): Fights free radicals; prevents irritation.
-Glycofilm Anti-Pollution Screen (made from glucose and glucuronic acid): Limits effects of pollution. |
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:29 am |
Hmm...I was shopping this weekend and asked about it at the Clarins counter (they had huge posters up advertising it), and none of the SAs seemed to know much about it. No samples either  . |
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:47 am |
| Clarins is grasping at straws. I just don't understand why a product like this when there are numerous antioxidant products that are already available. |
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:44 am |
| amnis wrote: |
Ha. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I noticed this in a Sephora email I received and did a search on EDS to see if anything had been said about it.
I mean, what's so special about the ingredients that would make it a "worldwide first"?:
Water, Rosmarinus Officinalis (Rosemary) Leaf Water, Butylene Glycol, Sodium Chloride, Thermus Thermophillus Ferment, Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate, Lapsana Communis Extract, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Biosaccharide Gum-4, Rhodiola Rosea Root Extract, Biotin, Phenoxyethanol, Disodium EDTA, Potassium Sorbate, Glycerin, Pentylene Glycol.
In Clarins' words:
-Thermus Thermophilus (marine micro-organism): Survives extremes in temperature.
-Rhodiola Rosea (perennial plant extract): Exceptional capacity for resistance.
-White Tea (plant extract): Fights free radicals and pollution.
-Succory Dock-Cress (annual plant): Fights free radicals; prevents irritation.
-Glycofilm Anti-Pollution Screen (made from glucose and glucuronic acid): Limits effects of pollution. |
Hi Amnis - thanks for posting this...You guys wouldn't have believed how ridiculous the Clarins representatives sounded when they tried to "sell" this stuff on the Canadian Shopping Channel (exclusive to TSC right now)...It was a farce!!! While I DID order 3 other Clarins products (because usually their stuff is awesome - I'll review them soon) there was NO WAY i was going to order this stuff....I'd LOVE to hear from someone who has purchased this!
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havana8
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Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:55 am |
Sephora's latest newsletter has it listed too. Here's the blurb:
TOTAL PROTECTION
Studies show electromagnetic waves from cell phones speed up the aging process. After your daily moisturizer and SPF, spritz this skin-saving spray around the face, ears and neck.
Expertise 3P. What it is: An antioxidant, antiaging treatment for the face. What it is formulated to do: E3P protects skin from the electromagnetic effects of today's modern day conveniences like cell phones and computers and helps neutralize the harmful effects of pollution and artificial lighting.
Beside it on the newsletter is this...
AGE DEFENSE
Breathe deep and indulge in this aromatherapy approach to age-defense containing a stress-busting pheromone. Dab a small amount onto the upper lip, under the nostrils and pulse points multiple times daily. New N.V. Perricone M.D Neuropeptide Synergy Anti-Aging Aromatic Pheromone, $250.
Neuropeptide Synergy Anti-Aging Aromatic Pheromone. What it is: A neuropeptide, antiaging, aromatic pheromone. What it is formulated to do: Helps elevate mood, increase mental clarity, lower stress, and give an overall sense of well being. What else you need to know: When pheromones are combined with neuropeptides they are able to adhere to receptor sites and carry messages to different parts of the brain affecting areas related to our sense of well being.
Hmmmmm.... Looks like we are moving into a new realm... |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:08 am |
| $250!!!! Splutter..... |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:42 am |
| havana8 wrote: |
| Hmmmmm.... Looks like we are moving into a new realm... |
Yes - the Twilight Zone. |
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havana8
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:00 am |
| majorb wrote: |
| havana8 wrote: |
| Hmmmmm.... Looks like we are moving into a new realm... |
Yes - the Twilight Zone. |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:25 am |
| Yay another product designed to capitalize on peoples' paranoia! Since there's no real life example of what cell phones could potentially do to your skin, how would you even know if it worked? |
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Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:04 am |
Interesting article from Paula's newsletter that someone posted....
Dear Paula,
I'm a journalist for a fashion magazine published in Brussels. I am writing an article about something I have heard: That sitting in front of a computer screen is dangerous for your skin due to some effect from electromagnetic fields. I read recently that Clarins has developed a spray against all kinds of electromagnetic fields to protect skin from this problem. Could you give me your opinion on this topic? Are electromagnetic waves bad for your skin? Are there any studies concerning this topic you know about?
Goedele, via email
Dear Goedele,
Electromagnetic radiation (low- or high-frequency electrical currents also called electromagnetic fields—EMFs) has been around since the birth of the universe; light is its most familiar form. Electric and magnetic fields are the spectrum comprising electromagnetic radiation, which includes static electricity, magnets, the sun, cell phones, x-rays, radios, televisions, heat lamps, and on and on. Tiny electrical currents are even present in the human body due to the chemical reactions that occur as part of normal bodily functions, even in the absence of external electric fields. For example, nerves relay signals by transmitting electric impulses. Most biochemical reactions, from digestion to brain activity, are associated with the rearrangement of charged (electric) particles. Even the heart is electrically active—an activity a doctor can trace with the help of an electrocardiogram. (How does Clarins plan to protect us from all that?)
There is concern about EMFs, but not just from computer monitors, which are truly a minor source. However, the World Health Organization, after reviewing over 25,000 research papers on the topic, concluded that there is no negative biological consequence associated with low-level electrical currents.
The only issue we know for sure that is a problem for skin is from any light source that emits UVA or UVB radiation. UVA and UVB light (the damaging kind) is not visible to the human eye (meaning that visible light is not UV light). The energy that is in sunlight does include a high percentage of UV radiation. Ordinary light bulbs (technically called incandescent lamps) emit very little UV light and do not require UV filtering or concern. However, tungsten-halogen lamps emit significant UVA light and do require filtering, which some bulbs indicate on the label. Some UV light passes through fluorescent lamps, but not much (Source: Protection From Light Damage, Northeast Document Conservation Center,www.nedcc.org/plam3/tleaf24.htm). The light from computers varies and some people do use screens over their monitors to reduce glare and reduce whatever potential light may be a problem. Unfortunately, it's likely that some of the same women spraying their faces to protect them from computer screens or cell phones are probably still getting tans and not wearing sunscreen every day! |
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Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:40 am |
I saw this in the chemists today. I thought it was something to help EM waves to penetrate the skin cos they were good for it ...something along the lines of thermage or whatever.
I figure you may as well just spray a hydrosol on your face  |
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Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:20 am |
| I got the email about this and it costs around 40.00 |
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Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:44 pm |
| Well, I still think Clarins have lost their minds. |
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Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:23 am |
| I think I'll stick with my Avene thermal water spray - about the same size and only £5ish in Boots! |
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Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:47 am |
| fifi wrote: |
| Hmm...I was shopping this weekend and asked about it at the Clarins counter (they had huge posters up advertising it), and none of the SAs seemed to know much about it. No samples either . |
I looked at it over the weekend when I was buying sunscreen and none of the SA's knew anything about it either. But I did score 2 sample bottles of it. Of course, I forgot about it until I read this so I'll try it out this weekend.
-Cheri |
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:16 pm |
Oh GOD. Thanks to all of you for this informative thread. I was all caught up in the ad, and was all set to research it, and lo and behold, you've all done it for me.
Being a flight attendant, I am always looking for ways to combat the fact that my job will age me faster (eek, i just KNOW it! Time for a new career?), and of course my curiosity was peaked when i saw this ad for Clarins. I am thrilled that it is basically HOGWASH, proven when I read the ingredient list, and what Paula Begoun had to say. I feel sorry for the hoards of women who will get sucked into this. Paranoia is definetly a marketer's dream!
Thank you for saving me $$, and for not allowing me to put yet another product on my face.  |
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