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Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:27 pm      Reply with quote
Reading red head's post about her skin being dehydrated got me thinking about some of the facials I've had.

I'm usually told that my skin is dehydrated and I am always surprised by that comment; to me, it seems normal. So, if your skin isn't uncomfortable in any way, what does a facialist mean when they tell you that? Confused
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:31 pm      Reply with quote
probablly the touch is tight. i usually had sauna before facials so for sure my face is dehydrated.
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:14 pm      Reply with quote
Yes - when it's dehydrated, your skin is lacking water (not oil) - the skin doesn't feel resilient, like when you press on it, it kind of has a crinkly "cellophane" look (not necessarily that extreme).
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:24 pm      Reply with quote
I was told by my friend, the guru of skincare and makeup, that if you take the long edge of your index finger and place it on the lower part of your cheek and then gently press upwards, if your skin has lots of really fine, tiny, crinkly lines (they will look dry), your skin is dehydrated.
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:39 pm      Reply with quote
This is totally my skin. How do you treat it? Should I still use my BHA and Vit C serums?

Because of the dehydration, I started using jojoba oil in the morning, and camellia oil at night. That wasn't enough so I also got a rich moisturizer (Korres Rose Moisturizer). My skin is STILL dehydrated, so about 4 days ago I got my LB Processors Ultra Emu Oil in the mail. Now I use 1% Bha or Active Serum at night, then Hydracool, then Emu + Camellia Oils, then Korres moisturizer. In the AM, I use Pro-heal, then Emu + Jojoba, then the Korres.

My dehydration has improved slightly, but I'm definiely still seeing the thin crepey look when I run my finger along my cheek. What more should I do?? Should I stop the actives altogether? I have been using them because of acne or to prevent more.

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Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:15 pm      Reply with quote
MermaidGirl wrote:
I was told by my friend, the guru of skincare and makeup, that if you take the long edge of your index finger and place it on the lower part of your cheek and then gently press upwards, if your skin has lots of really fine, tiny, crinkly lines (they will look dry), your skin is dehydrated.


I've already washed and applied my serums and moisturizer tonight, so I'll definately try that in the morning. Thanks! Smile

Did your guru-friend tell you a cure for it? Could it be from not drinking enough water?
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:14 pm      Reply with quote
tam wrote:
MermaidGirl wrote:
I was told by my friend, the guru of skincare and makeup, that if you take the long edge of your index finger and place it on the lower part of your cheek and then gently press upwards, if your skin has lots of really fine, tiny, crinkly lines (they will look dry), your skin is dehydrated.


I've already washed and applied my serums and moisturizer tonight, so I'll definately try that in the morning. Thanks! Smile

Did your guru-friend tell you a cure for it? Could it be from not drinking enough water?

Yes, some of it is from not drinking enough water (which I am guilty of) and/or drinking too much caffeine, some of it is washing with water that's too hot, using harsh products, overcleansing, etc. Dehydration is lack of water in the skin, not lack of oil. I use Avene Thermal Spray on my skin and then try to seal the moisture in with emu oil or other moisturizer. I'm also trying out H20+'s hydrating line, but I'm just too inconsistent with it to see if it works. I am going to give myself a hydrating mask tonight using either the Avene or H20+ product to see if that helps!

Manslayerliz gives some interesting advice on how to counteract dehydrated skin in this thread (see her quote, below): http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=203471#203471

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... I've found a fool-proof formula that gets my skin back to dewy within a couple of days, every time, so maybe it will help you too.

The first thing is to only wash your face with cleanser and water in the evening. In the morning just wash your face with plain old water, or with a rinseless cleanser like the one from Zenbiotic. Next, what kind of toner do you use? The only toner I've ever found that actually added moisture to my skin is the one from Best Bath Store (www.bestbathstore.com --- you can even request a free sample!). Next, here's my dewy skin combo: Caudalie Grape Water, Zenbiotic Phyto Moisture, and Zenbiotic Moisture Enrich, one after another. You can also throw in some Naturdermx for good measure, as this stuff is ULTRA-hydrating. That combo should help you during the day, and then at night after I wash my face I like Beauty Without Cruelty's Hydrating Face Mask. Talk about powder, I've never met a case of dry skin that this stuff couldn't beat!^-^ After you rinse the mask off do the same moisture combo for night as you did for day, and seriously by the next day your skin should be back to normal. Also try to resist using mineral oils, silicones, etc--- we want to try to heal your skin here. HTH!
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:38 am      Reply with quote
skim - I notice you're using a lot of oils which is good to seal in moisture (water) to the skin, which helps a lot, however, I think it might help if you try adding in some moisture-binding steps to your skincare routine too.

For example, maybe try some HA serum (PSF's is avail. from EDS for a reasonable price) right after you wash/tone your face, and underneath your moisturizers/oils.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:44 am      Reply with quote
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This is totally my skin. How do you treat it? Should I still use my BHA and Vit C serums?

Because of the dehydration, I started using jojoba oil in the morning, and camellia oil at night. That wasn't enough so I also got a rich moisturizer (Korres Rose Moisturizer). My skin is STILL dehydrated, so about 4 days ago I got my LB Processors Ultra Emu Oil in the mail. Now I use 1% Bha or Active Serum at night, then Hydracool, then Emu + Camellia Oils, then Korres moisturizer. In the AM, I use Pro-heal, then Emu + Jojoba, then the Korres.

My dehydration has improved slightly, but I'm definiely still seeing the thin crepey look when I run my finger along my cheek. What more should I do?? Should I stop the actives altogether? I have been using them because of acne or to prevent more.


skim have you always had issues with dehydrated skin or has it just been a problem since you added the actives?
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:05 am      Reply with quote
God, now I sooo realise that I am dehydrated too! Thank god, I thought it was something worst. I've had the finger crepeing effect since I tried mandelic about three months ago. I thought I had burned and maybe SCARRED my face, but it sounds as though I'm dehydrated. THANK GOD!!!!

well some form of hydrating product seems to be a must.... oh god another one to add to the list!
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TheresaL, I used to have oily t-zone and normal cheeks, then when I hit mid 20s my cheeks started getting larger pores and more oily (I'm 27 now) so I started actives. First with 1% Paula's Choice BHA gel. That helped, and my pores got better. Then in August I got IS Clinical stuff b/c I started breaking out on my cheeks due to 2 months abroad. Since I started in the summer, I DID notice my skin looking thinner, but I chalked it up to the actives encouraging cell turnover. But now that the weather is colder, it's plain dehydrated and I can't seem to get it to go away! Someone suggested HA, and I think Hydracool has HA. I have rolled back on the actives, using them only 3 nights a week. I am now putting on the Hydracool before the Emu/Camellia oil and Korres moisturizer.

I also started taking HA supplements this week.

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Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:13 pm      Reply with quote
an EXCELLENT (and not expensive) hydrating mask is the PSF one. it is a pain in the butt to apply (because it is gooey) and very sticky on the face, but it really plumps up dehydrated skin beautifully. It saved my face after a very dry, cold New Year in Japanese alpine country!!

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Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:32 pm      Reply with quote
I think keeping up with a good moisturizer morning and night is good for the skin. I've been doing it for years, but i've still have had dehydration problems. Long showers, caffeine, cold weather...all take its toll. I've cut down on mineral makeup because I think that can ruin a girls skin after using too much. Now ive switched to a concealer for dry skin and lightly dust mineral foundation on but very sparingly. I've been doing this for a few weeks now and the condition of my skin looks sooo much healthier. My pores look smaller and any small dehydration lines I used to have are fading away.

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Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:58 pm      Reply with quote
You can feel it most of the time, all when you smile you can see the very fine line caused by dehydration. Gotta drink 8 glasses of water each day. Smile
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Thanks for the PSF HA serum recommendation! For $20, it's a great deal. I checked around the forums and it seems like people are happy with it. I also the Thalgo Immediate Bio-Soothing Mask as a free gift. It's new to EDS, so I'll have to post a review when I try it. I'm a happy camper. I love trying new products. I just have to finish the ones I already have... Smile

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Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:19 am      Reply with quote
you can feel it when you apply compact powder.
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:34 pm      Reply with quote
Two words. Crepe paper!You can see a texture to the skin.

I have seen people with really oily skin that are still dehydrated.

You have to lock that moisture in with a great moisturizer
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:55 am      Reply with quote
purpleturtle wrote:
I think keeping up with a good moisturizer morning and night is good for the skin. I've been doing it for years, but i've still have had dehydration problems. Long showers, caffeine, cold weather...all take its toll. I've cut down on mineral makeup because I think that can ruin a girls skin after using too much. Now ive switched to a concealer for dry skin and lightly dust mineral foundation on but very sparingly. I've been doing this for a few weeks now and the condition of my skin looks sooo much healthier. My pores look smaller and any small dehydration lines I used to have are fading away.


Confused Confused Confused Confused I thought mineral make up was BETTER for the skin? I've just ordered a load, because everyone was raving about it!! any thoughts appreciated! Sad

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:12 am      Reply with quote
MermaidGirl is spot on with the finger/dehydration test - this is what I used to do in salon when I was a Therapist to see if a clients skin was well hydrated or not, and like has been mentioned even highly oily skin can be dehydrated - in fact dehydrated skin can produce more oil in an attempt to stop the skin becoming more dehydrated.

Drinking lots of water (or it that's too boring you can dilute fruit juice 50/50 with spring or filtered tap water) and HA under, or mixed with a good oil (such as Jojoba,Camellia or Emu) will help.
Regarding Mineral Makeup - yes it is better for the skin in that it tend to be less laden with chemicals and pore clogging ingredients, plus it has a natural SPF action. However it can make dehydration LOOK worse as it can sit in flaky bits and in lines/crepeyness - some brands are worse that others. (Shiny brands, for example Bare Essentials, I've found to be worse but brands like Aromaleigh (which is Bismuth Free - which is in the BE and can be irritating)Glissade doesn't seem to do this - the Voile is quite good too but is a 'dryer' texture. From a practical view point make sure your moisturiser has soaked in, apply your MMU *NOT* in a buffing motion but in smooth downward strokes, then take a soft flocked makeup sponge and lightly smooth it over your skin - this smooths the finish and blends any dry areas, then spritz your face with a hydrosol/facial water - rose water is great for this, this will 'meld' the makeup to your skin and give a soft focus, hydrated appearance.

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:51 am      Reply with quote
I drink lots of water, take HA oral supplements, use Hydracool (which has HA), Emu oil + Camellia seed oil, then another moisturizer on top. And while I see a bit of improvement, my skin STILL doesn't pass the dehydrated skin test. I ordered PSF HA-- hopefully this is better than the Hydracool. What else can I do? Or is my dehydrated skin hopeless?

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:57 am      Reply with quote
Hmm sounds like you're skins natural barrier/acid mantel may be compromised. If this is the case all your moisturising etc is 'fire fighting' as you are treating the syptoms rather than the cause. If it were me I would look at other things you are using particularly your cleanser - ideally I would recommend a detergent free PH balanced cleanser, however these are quite hard to get hold of but I like the Rosehip Cleanser you can get from:

www.dianayvonne.com

or

www.skincarecentral.biz

While such a cleanser may take some adjusting too if you are used to chemical laden facial washes/creams it is well worth it.

The pure HA is a great idea, and taking an internal HA supplement or a supplement with EFAs may also help.

Other things you can do are to exfoliate gently using a mechanical exfoliator (as in a scrub) but don't go mad Laughing I like Epidermx personally but what ever you use do be gentle.

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Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:30 pm      Reply with quote
i think facialist say your skin dehydrated because he or she couldn't find any flaw of your skin
maybe.
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Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:18 am      Reply with quote
Lucia wrote:
... and like has been mentioned even highly oily skin can be dehydrated - in fact dehydrated skin can produce more oil in an attempt to stop the skin becoming more dehydrated.

You have just described my skin to a T! I'm even more dehydrated now with the force air heat constantly going in my house.
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Regarding Mineral Makeup - yes it is better for the skin in that it tend to be less laden with chemicals and pore clogging ingredients, plus it has a natural SPF action. However it can make dehydration LOOK worse as it can sit in flaky bits and in lines/crepeyness - some brands are worse that others. ... From a practical view point make sure your moisturiser has soaked in, apply your MMU *NOT* in a buffing motion but in smooth downward strokes, then take a soft flocked makeup sponge and lightly smooth it over your skin ... then spritz your face with a hydrosol/facial water - rose water is great for this, this will 'meld' the makeup to your skin and give a soft focus, hydrated appearance.

Great information. I had no idea MMU could be applied properly withOUT buffing (which I've always hated doing) - will do downward strokes now and impliment a rose hydrosol to set my MMU. Thanks for posting these helpful tips! Very Happy
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Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:35 am      Reply with quote
Hi!

I am a firm believer in hydrating the skin from both the inside and outside.

For great supplement ideas check out skin health under http://wholehealthmd.com (direct link to skin health section is http://tinyurl.com/qswfh )

Some of the supplements that I take that are good for my skin include:

Vitamin C
Fish oil
CoQ10

I also really love the Ice Elements creme cleanser, anti-aging serum and normal to dry moisture lotion combination. This combination has really had positive results on my skin.

If you are looking for just one item to add I would highly suggest the Ice Elements anti-aging serum as it contains a high percentage of Antarcticine which specifically helps the skin to hold onto moisture.

I would also suggest using a couple of drops of squalane to add extra moisture to the skin. It can be mixed in with your lotion to boost up the moisture properties.

Take care.
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I'm doing all of the things mentioned above-- supplements (lots of them!), water, 5.5ph gentle cleanser, etc. Maybe I am too impatient and I need to give it more time. How long does it take to repair your mantle? I read Remergent Barrier Repair is supposed to be good, but it's expensive and I've been spending so much money on skin care as it is.

I guess I'll have to wait and see if the PSF HA helps more. I should be getting it within a few days.

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