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Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:20 am |
I got my brows done last weekat Nordstrom's in SD in the corner of the store they have Anastacia's brow salon. She does all the top stars in the world...Madonna etc...Anyway she has trained assistants to do eyebrows and I have to say I was stunned by the results. She shaped, trimmed, waxed filled in my sparse brows and wow what a difference!I have some pesky white hairs in my black brows so I try to dye them(a pain and dangerous). She introduced me to Anastacias tinted brow gel that covers all the white and lightened upy black brows. It was like getting a facelift!(I had one of those)It was the best $35 I ever spent,I have had my brows done before for only $20,and you get what you pay for. but going to her salon was amazing,it makes such a big difference I plan to go once a month. |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:08 am |
I was wondering if you had the brows done once, would you easily be able to keep them that way by daily maintenance?
That way I could get them done in the US and then keep them up myself. (once they got the shape done) I was thinking of buying the Anastasia brow kit, with how much I have spent since joining this forum, I am thinking of giving the credit card a rest.
-Nuface
-Candessence complete skin line
-Quasar sp
and I have only just joined! |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:22 am |
yes and no - i probably get my brows done professionally every 3 months or so, definitely longer than the recommended 4-6 week interval. that said, in between i tweeze out the obvious strays. the danger in going too close to the brow line though is that you might begin to overtweeze and sometimes it can be hard to grow back those missing hairs (although the ones you wish would disappear forever somehow keep growing back ). also, it can be really difficult to keep them absolutely symmetrical by yourself, so it really helps to have a professional intervene every now and then. |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:31 am |
I'd love to do this. I've looked at the eyebrowz.com site and find myself getting confuzeled about what stencils to buy.
kimberly |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:37 am |
I think you get it once and then maintain on your own...to a degree. I asked her about stencils and she said to just do it freestyle.Next time I go I am going to ask her about putting the brow pencil on,when she does it it looks fantastic.I want to go once a month because the waxing makes it look so clean,I have WAY too many hairs to pluck. Try one of her salons once and you will be hooked! |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:41 am |
i really think it's important that if you're going to touch your brows and alter them in a noticeable way (more than just plucking out a few strays) to go to a professional. stencils are sort of one-size-fits-all, and a good brow shaper should be able to figure out what works best for your own individual face, bone structure, etc., regardless of trends. i personally prefer tweezing and threading (an indian hair removal method) to waxing since they're gentler on the skin and don't have any interactions with skincare products (retinol, for example, can be a bad combo with waxing), but whatever method you choose, research the person first since as much as a good brow shaping can change your look, so can a bad one, ande there's nothing worse than super skinny, over-waxed/tweezed brows . . . |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:45 am |
Swissmiss: wow I thought I was a spender and you bought the Nuface and SPQUasar!And...you are just beginning! I am reluctant to use the BQ or SP Quasar because it seems like it takes too much time and its pretty expensive.My time is really important since I work 2 jobs, I did just buy the facial flex though--I am hoping once I master it I can use it in my car on my way to work-I will probably get some strange looks though:lol: |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:06 am |
Nuface does not that much time.
I just got mine and did it for the very 1st time - about 5 min.
Quasar SP does take about 30+ minutes, but once or twice a week. And you can do it watching TV. |
_________________ Early 50s, Skin: combin.,semi-sensitive, fair with occasional breakouts, some old acne scars, freckles, under-eye wrinkles; Redhead with hazel eyes |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:06 am |
Yes I think she had a ruler and was measuring the brows and trying hard to shape them and make them match,she had to do a lot of trimming because minoxidol gives you some long hairs...I too was afraid of waxing but my skin had no problem with it, I didnt even turn a little red afterwards like a lot of people. I dont really understand threading I just know that plucking would take half a day for me-I am hairy(except some parts of brow are sparse from aggressivce overplucking as a teen) I just got Yag Laser treatments for my hairy face hoping that will work, but itcant be used for the brows though and electroylsis can be painful and you can scar, so I will just get waxed once a month... |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:27 am |
threading is actually a great alternative to waxing and tweezing if you find the right person it's sort of in between the two, timewise, but has the benefits of tweezing in that it doesn't matter what you use on your skin. basically, the threader winds thread around her finger to form a loop, which she then quickly opens and closes with her fingers, wrapping it around the hairs and plucking them out. it's quicker than tweezing because more hairs can be pulled with the loop at a time than just the single hairs with tweezing. it's also usually cheaper than tweezing, and generally comparable to waxing prices (although i live in nyc, so my sense of normal pricing is probably overinflated ). hth! |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:39 pm |
I've been using the Blonde brow pencil for a while now. Its a great color and I love it!! Last week, I bought the Camille matte highlighter. Now ~ that is something to rave about. I promise to never be without that wonderful pink pencil. It really does brighten the face....I've received 3 compliments on my makeup since using it. |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:03 pm |
I'd love to have professional shaping done but I don't know anyone in the bay area of California.
BTW - I have a diagram that says describes the Golden Proportion for the eyebrow arch. The tip of the arch (towards your nose) to the arch should equal 1.1618. The arch to the end of the eyebrow (towards your ear) should equal 1. |
_________________ mid 40's, Hawaiian/Japanese, combo skin, med/dark complexion. "If life hands you lemons, throw them at your enemies" |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:20 pm |
the Nordstrum's on Market street in san francisco has an anastacia brow salon. |
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Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:15 pm |
I have been a brow waxer for a good 20 years, but finding somewhere in Japan that waxed rather than just shaved eyebrows was always a challenge, so I have been having them done just once or twice a year when I go back to Australia.
I got the 6pce Anastasia all-about-brows (stencils, tweezers, powder, gel, highlight pencil, brush) and sissors for Xmas to start doing my brows myself, but now I found out that they have recently opened a salon in Yokohama!! So rather than trying to do it from scratch myself (shaping etc), I am going into the salon for one time and then plan to maintain myself. The cost in Japan is 4500 yen (about US$37) so it is pretty much on par. |
_________________ SKIN: combination, reactive to climate changes and extremely fair. "Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself." --Roseanne |
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 5:23 am |
I was on Anastacia's website and was tempted to order the brow kit to help me maintain my brows in between appts. The esthetician did not try to push any products on me at all, except for the tinted brow gel which I really needed and love.Maybe she was afraid if I got the kit I wouldnt come back,next time I get my brows done I think I will buy a kit just so I can maintain in between appts. |
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:24 am |
if you're going to keep going to her, to maintain in between appts all you really need is a good tweezer, not really the stencils - don't go too close to the line and just pluck out the hairs around as they start growing in. tweezerman makes great ones, btw . . . |
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:26 am |
I swear by Anastasia's products.....I love and would not be without her brow gel...
Pudoodles |
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:04 pm |
Rjez wrote: |
I'd love to have professional shaping done but I don't know anyone in the bay area of California.
BTW - I have a diagram that says describes the Golden Proportion for the eyebrow arch. The tip of the arch (towards your nose) to the arch should equal 1.1618. The arch to the end of the eyebrow (towards your ear) should equal 1. |
Wow, I have no idea what you mean! Did you just speak in heiroglyphics? I am super bad at math!
I'd love to know how to figure this formula out, because I accidentally tweezed one of my brows shorter than the other, but I kind of like it. If I were to tweeze the other to match, I'd hit a sparse spot I have in that brow and it would look like crap. So, I'd love to find out if the overly-tweezed brow fits the Golden Proportion or if its the other brow that does.
Any ideas how to translate the Golden Proportions so dufae like me can figure it out? TIA! |
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Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:11 pm |
OK, this "Golden Proportion" is really just Phi (fee) which is also called The Golden Ratio. The ratio is used in math, art and architecture and is found in nature. Basically the proportions are supposed to be the most aesthetically pleasing.
Artists use it to proportion paintings and in nature you can find this proportion in the leaves on a branch (or is it branches on a stem - I cannot remember ) and even the veins on leaves. And I believe it is also found in the human body - proportion of the thigh to calf in length - so why not our eyebrows!!
I watch too much Discovery Channel.... (hey, don't they talk about this ratio in Da Vinci Code? )
But anyway, how to calculate (lets see if my pathetic ability for math gets me through this).
The total length of your brow is "A+B". But as individual numbers, if B = 1, then A = 1.618 (A is always 1.618 the measurement of B). Here is a picture of what I am trying to say
In the case of the eyebrows, the point of A is where the arch should be highest. So, if your brow is a total of 6.5cm long, the most aesthetically pleasing point for the arch to peak is around the 4cm mark. (just divide the length of your eyebrow by 1.618 to find the peak...)
Oh crap, what do I know. I am a math flunkee. I have probably just embarassed myself and displayed my hopeless lack of understanding for anything numerical other than a price tag. |
_________________ SKIN: combination, reactive to climate changes and extremely fair. "Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself." --Roseanne |
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Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:42 am |
I think its easier to go to a professional brow stylist than to try to understand your algebra. When I was in high school I had to steal the final exam in algebra to make it through the class: I just cant do math. |
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:49 am |
Does anyone RECOMMEND the brow kit for a first-timer?
That appeals to the laziness in me vs. making an appointment and driving into the city.
mermaidgirl - Yup, tiger-tim's description is right.
uh, I have these laminated training sheets at my company and it's got good and bad examples of eyebrows, etc. Unfortunately, I can't share them. |
_________________ mid 40's, Hawaiian/Japanese, combo skin, med/dark complexion. "If life hands you lemons, throw them at your enemies" |
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:02 pm |
i would definitely say no - i actually originally did my brows myself and having gone down that road, wouldn't recommend it. they were never awful, but they definitely weren't perfectly symmetrical - i just think that's so hard to get on your own and you run the risk of overplucking in order to try to match one to the other . . . |
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:12 pm |
I find that one way I can tell if my brows are symmetrical is if I use two mirrors to see my face as others do, as opposed to the mirror image I'm accustomed to seeing. Does that make sense??? I don't know how else to explain it, sorry!
When I do this, any differences in length, contour, thickness, etc. are much more apparent to me than when I simply look in a mirror. |
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:20 pm |
m.april wrote: |
I find that one way I can tell if my brows are symmetrical is if I use two mirrors to see my face as others do, as opposed to the mirror image I'm accustomed to seeing. Does that make sense??? I don't know how else to explain it, sorry!
When I do this, any differences in length, contour, thickness, etc. are much more apparent to me than when I simply look in a mirror. |
I just had a vision of myself balancing in front of the wall mirror with a handheld mirror in my left hand and a tweezer in the right ... I'll leave that to the more talented EDS'ers. |
_________________ mid 40's, Hawaiian/Japanese, combo skin, med/dark complexion. "If life hands you lemons, throw them at your enemies" |
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Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:36 pm |
Rjez - I don't tweeze while I'm doing it -- I just look for symmetry! Are you kidding? I'm not that dexterous! But it's an "eye opener" to look at yourself this way, and it's how I know if my brows are the same shape, etc. |
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