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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:22 am      Reply with quote
I have seriously thinning hair. I tried Rogaine for 4 months but gave up last November - I figured my follicles were dead and there was no hope.

About 8 weeks ago I started using Carekate's hair serum once/week. It's like an aromatherapy treatment but you do need to massage the oil in for at least 15 minutes, then let it sit for several hours, then shampoo. A great treat but obviously can't be done daily.

3 weeks ago I also started mixing sea kelp bioferment with Loma Pearatin Repairative Serum as a leave-on in the morning.

The benefits were immediately noticeable because I have very long, chemically damaged and super-fine hair. Sea kelp bioferment THICKENED my hair, made it soft with no frizzies AND took away all traces of oiliness - to the point that I only need to wash my hair once a week. (I do use Carekate's dry shampoo if my bangs seem limp)

I also comb out my hair every morning and noticed far LESS shed, including during the weekly wash.

And last week I added the SkinActives kit, KGF Hair Serum with ELS. I also added the last drops of Carekate's hair serum to this. Most people use it once or twice a week because they don't like the 'dirty hair' feel it can give. I guess because my hair is long - I didn't notice a problem and use it twice a DAY!

So yesterday, I asked my hair stylist to touch my hair. He wasn't impressed because I'm the Queen of volumizing products.

But, when he washed my hair my stylist was completely speechless. Even when clean and wet - my hair felt considerably thicker and fuller.

My hair stylist was impressed to the point that he wants to order and try it on other clients. I'm so happy ... I can't believe how great my hair is finally becoming!

So, here's my routine:
    Carekate's hair serum: weekly scalp and hair treatment.
    KGF Hair serum w/ Carekate's hair serum: twice daily as a scalp leave-in.
    Sea kelp bioferment w/ repair serum: morning leave-in to tame frizzies and redo waves.

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:34 am      Reply with quote
wow, Rjez, that is AWESOME! Unfortunately, I've barred myself from making any other overseas purchases for a while, otherwise I'd snap the SK BF right up! I am glad that we are all on aour way to shiny, thick, lustrous hair... Still patiently awaiting carekate's package... !

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:41 am      Reply with quote
Rjez, have you noticed any new hair coming in?

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:44 am      Reply with quote
Hey Avalange,

I wouldn't be surprised if you have the same results using Carekate's hair serum alone.

I think the major difference is that her hair serum for hair growth is very thick and oily - I couldn't use it as a leave-in. I'm going to ask Carrie if there's anyway to add something so I can use it as a leave-in and a weekly treatment.

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Rjez, have you noticed any new hair coming in?

I can't tell on my scalp (not coordinated doing the multiple mirror close-up) so I rely on my hair stylist. For months he'd part my hair and sort of "tsk, tsk" when I was using Rogaine. This month he just kept grabbing my hair at the roots and noting I had "more hair".

I *DID* notice that I had a number of fine, new hair at the front of my hair line. It stood out when he was highlighting my hair because it wouldn't fit in the foil.

And I swear that's gotta be new because I check out everything that I comb out....

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:05 am      Reply with quote
That really makes me anxious to get my SKB.

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:19 pm      Reply with quote
Curious: what are the active ingredients in each of these three products that are known to grow/thicken hair??
thanks.
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:21 pm      Reply with quote
That is great Rjez.
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I have ordered the hair stuff from Carrie for my Mumj.
Can you please tell me where I can get the other 2 products?

Thank you.
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:06 pm      Reply with quote
jakee wrote:
Curious: what are the active ingredients in each of these three products that are known to grow/thicken hair??
thanks.


This is the stuff I'm familar with. If you go to the site, there is much more technical info on what is included and why.

KGF as a chemical signal.
Sea Kelp Bioferment for nutrition.
chrysin - promotes hair growth
Grape seed - antiox.


Emma2006 - PM Carekate. The other stuff comes from www.skinactives.com. Look under 'kits' for Keratinocyte Growth Factor and under "most popular" for the sea kelp bioferment. Also, if you read the EDS thread "Rave for Sea Kelp Bioferment" you'll see other uses. It's the active ingredient ("miracle broth") for Creme de la Mer.

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:41 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you.

My order is winging it's way to me from carekate.
I'll look up the other site too.
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Ro, where did you buy sea kelp bioferment? What is KGH hair serum? Where can one buy Loma Pearatin Repairative Serum?

My hair is thick (each strand). Would the sea kelp make it too thick? My dad used to tell me that when I cut my hair, he could use it as a broom. lol I don't need my strands to be thicker, so I was just wondering...

Rjez wrote:
I have seriously thinning hair. I tried Rogaine for 4 months but gave up last November - I figured my follicles were dead and there was no hope.

About 8 weeks ago I started using Carekate's hair serum once/week. It's like an aromatherapy treatment but you do need to massage the oil in for at least 15 minutes, then let it sit for several hours, then shampoo. A great treat but obviously can't be done daily.

3 weeks ago I also started mixing sea kelp bioferment with Loma Pearatin Repairative Serum as a leave-on in the morning.

The benefits were immediately noticeable because I have very long, chemically damaged and super-fine hair. Sea kelp bioferment THICKENED my hair, made it soft with no frizzies AND took away all traces of oiliness - to the point that I only need to wash my hair once a week. (I do use Carekate's dry shampoo if my bangs seem limp)

I also comb out my hair every morning and noticed far LESS shed, including during the weekly wash.

And last week I added the SkinActives kit, KGF Hair Serum with ELS. I also added the last drops of Carekate's hair serum to this. Most people use it once or twice a week because they don't like the 'dirty hair' feel it can give. I guess because my hair is long - I didn't notice a problem and use it twice a DAY!

So yesterday, I asked my hair stylist to touch my hair. He wasn't impressed because I'm the Queen of volumizing products.

But, when he washed my hair my stylist was completely speechless. Even when clean and wet - my hair felt considerably thicker and fuller.

My hair stylist was impressed to the point that he wants to order and try it on other clients. I'm so happy ... I can't believe how great my hair is finally becoming!

So, here's my routine:
    Carekate's hair serum: weekly scalp and hair treatment.
    KGF Hair serum w/ Carekate's hair serum: twice daily as a scalp leave-in.
    Sea kelp bioferment w/ repair serum: morning leave-in to tame frizzies and redo waves.
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:30 pm      Reply with quote
cherisse you're too funny. Okay, so you know Carekate and her stuff...

    Sea kelp bioferment. I got mine at www.skinactives.com. There are other places but I don't know the sites.
    KGF hair serum is called 'Keratinocyte Growth Factor' and can be purchased as a 'hair serum' kit from Skinactives. Look up 'keratinocyte growth factor'.
    Loma Pearatin Repairative Serum is a leave-in serum with amino acids, apricot oil, etc. I got mine at www.creativesalon.com but it's also now carried at my salon. I'm running out and I'm going to try Oscar Blandi jasmine serum. Similar intent but it smells heavenly.


Unfortunately, I don't have the thick asian hair. I have the super-fine, thinning asian hair that is limp and stick-straight. The KGF mix contains Chrysin which is supposed to thicken hair, so it may not be a good choice for you - sorry, 'thick hair' is so foreign to me ... it's like asking someone with a row boat for a product recommendation for a yacht.

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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:38 pm      Reply with quote
Rjez wrote:
'thick hair' is so foreign to me ... it's like asking someone with a row boat for a product recommendation for a yacht.


rofl

ro, you're so funny. But you describe perfectly how I feel about my hair. Are you also using the ELS with the KGF Hair Care Serum? If not, you might find it a bit drying after a while.

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Hehehe...Ro, you are the funny one. I just PM'd carrie again asking her if she would please sell me her hair serum. I am pretty desperate. I just washed my hair with baking soda in the shampoo. I could actually feel my hair becoming ...something....well, it was something rather positive. Then I added honey to the conditioning mask I got from Best Bath Store. The stuff was so thick it was hard to get in between my hair strands. I am just waiting right now to rinse it out. Almost time! I will rinse off with purified water, and regular vinegar since I don't have apple cider vinegar, and I'll pray to God that it works the same way. (probably not since then Avalange would probably say ...or you can use regular vinegar instead). Oh well...

Thanks for sharing your tips. I am in a trial-and-error mode right now with my hair. When it's so horribly crunchy, I can always munch on it, and hope that it won't have too many calories in it.

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cherisse you're too funny. Okay, so you know Carekate and her stuff...

    Sea kelp bioferment. I got mine at www.skinactives.com. There are other places but I don't know the sites.
    KGF hair serum is called 'Keratinocyte Growth Factor' and can be purchased as a 'hair serum' kit from Skinactives. Look up 'keratinocyte growth factor'.
    Loma Pearatin Repairative Serum is a leave-in serum with amino acids, apricot oil, etc. I got mine at www.creativesalon.com but it's also now carried at my salon. I'm running out and I'm going to try Oscar Blandi jasmine serum. Similar intent but it smells heavenly.


Unfortunately, I don't have the thick asian hair. I have the super-fine, thinning asian hair that is limp and stick-straight. The KGF mix contains Chrysin which is supposed to thicken hair, so it may not be a good choice for you - sorry, 'thick hair' is so foreign to me ... it's like asking someone with a row boat for a product recommendation for a yacht.
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:54 pm      Reply with quote
Ro - how did you get carrie to sell her products to you? I have not had much success getting through to her.
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Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:07 pm      Reply with quote
You PM her - she only has limited computer access though.
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Yes, Emma. I know about her limited internet access issue. However I PM'd her a month ago now I think before Christmas. Is this normal for her to take a month or longer to respond?

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You PM her - she only has limited computer access though.
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i didn't know where to put this, but i don't think i have seen Carrie around for awhile. Where is our Carrie???

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i didn't know where to put this, but i don't think i have seen Carrie around for awhile. Where is our Carrie???

SCA, I've been wondering the same thing. I'm worried about her. Her last post was January 12. She gets really bad migraines that can lay her out for week or so and I hope its not that. I hope she's OK. I'm sure she is inundated with PMs for her products, but she usually posts at least something on Celebrity Gossip in the Lounge.

Carrie, where are you?
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I hope she's ok. Confused
My latest package arrived from her today - beautifully packaged as usual.
I hope all is well.
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I hope she's ok, too. My kids just got a bronchitis, and lots of people at work were out sick. We were dropping like flies one by one.

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I hope she's ok. Confused
My latest package arrived from her today - beautifully packaged as usual.
I hope all is well.
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I hope she's ok, too. My kids just got a bronchitis, and lots of people at work were out sick. We were dropping like flies one by one.

Emma2006 wrote:
I hope she's ok. Confused
My latest package arrived from her today - beautifully packaged as usual.
I hope all is well.


I hope your children feel better soon.
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I've been using the KGF for about 6 months now. My mom had significant hair loss at 50. I am starting to thin also and this has really helped (new hair apparent at the scalpline).

I recent started to use the biokelp product first mixed with conditioner and washed out and then also a tiny bit left in. It is wonder ful. It makes my thin hair fuller. I am waiting for Axie who has ordered a bulk amount of this to sell to all of us!

I would also like to try Carekate's product but I wish she or Wendy would make a water based leave-in product. PSF has the cucumber toner which has 15%MSM in it. That plus chrysin, KGF and green tea sounds like it would be good.
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I would also like to try Carekate's product but I wish she or Wendy would make a water based leave-in product. PSF has the cucumber toner which has 15%MSM in it. That plus chrysin, KGF and green tea sounds like it would be good.
Great idea! I'll get to work on that as soon as I receive my latest order of "raw materials"....

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sharky wrote:
I would also like to try Carekate's product but I wish she or Wendy would make a water based leave-in product. PSF has the cucumber toner which has 15%MSM in it. That plus chrysin, KGF and green tea sounds like it would be good.
Great idea! I'll get to work on that as soon as I receive my latest order of "raw materials"....

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