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Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:41 pm  |
| massaging the area between your eyebrows daily for an extended period of time could prevent 11's from getting worse? |
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Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:46 pm |
| Im not sure, I have read that a gentle massage all around the eye area several times a day will relieve tension and relax your muscles. It makes sense that it might prevent wrinkles to some extent, at least you wouldnt be flexing them all the time... |
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Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:58 pm |
| I think Weleda's Larch Comp. Resin Lotion works for that. It relaxes the area and you can really feel it. |
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Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:00 pm |
| Smoothskin wrote: |
| I think Weleda's Larch Comp. Resin Lotion works for that. It relaxes the area and you can really feel it. |
Do you still use this? |
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Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:07 pm |
| There is a product called Frownies that is supposed to be good for that area. I think some ladies on here have tried it. I need to get my hands on it if it works! |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:52 am |
Hi Anomoly
There are people who believe in special 'wrinkle rubbing' techniques for elimination.
I first saw this idea when I used to lurk on the Flexeffect forum several years ago. There was a man with a web page who claimed to have rubbed away all his wrinkles over a couple of years. There were apparantly convincing photos, but I never saw it.
I was looking again for this recently and came across another bunch of face exercisers claiming results for wrinkle rubbing.
Natural Facelift by Juliette Kando has similar techniques and I tried them for several weeks. You get some temporary plumping with it, but I never had the patience to continue with it long enough to know if it really works. |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:27 am |
I'll just explain the Kando technique from memory.
First you press down on the wrinkle a few times and hold for a few seconds. You want to draw blood to it. Then massage in small circular movements up and down it with a finger. Then place a finger lying flat on both sides of the wrinkle and push one side up and the other down - so moving the fingers in opposite directions. This supposedly breaks up the underlying tissue. You do this about 3 times, 10 movements. Then to round off you press down again to encourage blood flow.
I suppose it's like using glycolic; you invoke damage to stimulate repair. |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:38 pm |
| Bunny7475 wrote: |
| There is a product called Frownies that is supposed to be good for that area. I think some ladies on here have tried it. I need to get my hands on it if it works! |
I have them. They don't seem to do much for me. I've worn them for about 3 months, almost daily. |
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Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:44 pm |
| Molly wrote: |
I'll just explain the Kando technique from memory.
First you press down on the wrinkle a few times and hold for a few seconds. You want to draw blood to it. Then massage in small circular movements up and down it with a finger. Then place a finger lying flat on both sides of the wrinkle and push one side up and the other down - so moving the fingers in opposite directions. This supposedly breaks up the underlying tissue. You do this about 3 times, 10 movements. Then to round off you press down again to encourage blood flow.
I suppose it's like using glycolic; you invoke damage to stimulate repair. |
That's interesting. What I was thinking was relaxing the muscle would help... I seem to have a constant strain in my forehead, and after alot of stress for so long, it doesn't go away. I feel my 11's (I call it that, but it's more like a 1), I feel the tension constantly. There is a little indent there... it's not like a wrinkle so much as a permanent indentation in the underlying muscle. ??? |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:41 am |
| I know what you're describing exactly anomoly. Sounds just like what I've got. That's why I was looking into the wrinkle rubbing. After seeing what plastic surgeons do to fused forehead muscles like that, ie. they break the attachments to the bone with a knife and it smooths out, I thought I wonder if I can break those attachments manually with really vigorous massage. I did it for about 3 weeks and made my forehead really sore. |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:22 am |
I have a very short forehead, which my derm in Florida used to call "extremely mobile"  . I have very deep 11s and horizontal lines, and have pretty much given up on botox as I'm not getting good results here in the UK so I might just have to give this a try! |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:24 am |
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| I have a very short forehead, which my derm in Florida used to call "extremely mobile" . I have very deep 11s and horizontal lines, and have pretty much given up on botox as I'm not getting good results here in the UK so I might just have to give this a try! |
There are some people online doing this along with facial exercises they believe you also need to reset the connections. I don't have time to try and find them again, but you could. You have to really dig into the muscles in a punishing way with your fingertips I reckon. Might try it again too |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:58 am |
| I'm still considering getting the NuFace to work on some of my lower face sagging issues (I sound like I'm just melting away, don't I ), I wonder if it would help this area more if combined with this technique. Hmm.... |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:34 am |
I don't think it would help for that Fifi. That tends to be characterised by muscle atrophy AKA droop, whereas the seriously lumpy forehead tends to be characterised by over-developed muscles.
I think the same; the more I post the uglier I must sound. I actually look very nice, honest  |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:37 am |
| Ah joy, I have over-developed muscles and atrophy all at the same time!! It's a miracle small children don't run away in the street . |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:12 am |
| aha, sounds interesting! |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:56 pm |
| Molly wrote: |
| I did it for about 3 weeks and made my forehead really sore. |
The things we do to look younger! |
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Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:12 pm |
| anomaly wrote: |
The things we do to look younger! |
No! In the interests of science - that's what I'm telling them |
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