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Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:19 am  |
i'm using IPSA cleansing oil and La Pairie foam cleanser now. The IPSA cleansing oil is coming to an end and i can't decide what to try next!
So far, i've shortlisted these:
1) Sisley cleansing milk (sage or lily?)
2) Babor Hyol and Phytosensitive
3) Dr H. cleansing cream
4) Erno laszlo soap
i've normal to combination skin that is sensitive, most SAs tell me "dehydrated on the outside, oily on the inside". cheeks have pretty large pores and flushes very easily.
any advice and input would be very very much appreciated!
thanks! |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:29 am |
I suggest the Babor hy-öl with the phytoactive combination (at lest you should try the combination). I have some of the same problems as you (sensitive and combination skin) and found that Babor really make my skin normal. It is the one cleanser I cannot do without.  |
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Live in Switzerland, age 32, dehydrated combination skin, sensitive to climate changes, some food and cosmetic products. Very fair. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:37 am |
I'll second the Babor cleansing oil. I guess you are using your oil at night and La Prarie foaming in the morning? In that case, and if you are planning on using for make-up removal, then go with Babor.
If you can afford it, also get the Dr. H. Cleansing cream as it is nice to use at night if not wearing make-up (that was my personal experience with it, anyway) |
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SKIN: combination, reactive to climate changes and extremely fair. "Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself." --Roseanne |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:20 am |
| I have the same skin type as you, in fact I could not have described it better, and I have had great success with the Sisley Cleansing Milk with Lily. It takes off all my make up including mascara and leaves my skin feeling clean (not tight), balanced and glowing. I follow up with the Floral Toner which smells heavenly. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:41 am |
I would say to pick the one that EDS is selling so you can get samples of other lines. Who knows, you may discover another brand that is better.
With Sisely, it is full of botanicles but I think their line is waxy and could cause blackheads. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:06 am |
| Schnee wrote: |
| I suggest the Babor hy-öl with the phytoactive combination (at lest you should try the combination). I have some of the same problems as you (sensitive and combination skin) and found that Babor really make my skin normal. It is the one cleanser I cannot do without. |
dear Schnee, thanks for your input. i would not have even considered the combination if not for you! reason being the shu oils were always too drying for me.
do you use the Babor Hy-ol Cleanser or the Soothing Hy-ol Cleanser? ( i read the reviews on MUA and couldn't tell which Hy-ol the girls were raving about).
thanks! |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:11 am |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
I'll second the Babor cleansing oil. I guess you are using your oil at night and La Prarie foaming in the morning? In that case, and if you are planning on using for make-up removal, then go with Babor.
If you can afford it, also get the Dr. H. Cleansing cream as it is nice to use at night if not wearing make-up (that was my personal experience with it, anyway) |
hey tiger_tim, you got it almost right on! i use the foam cleanser in the morning but i double cleanser at night with either a oil and foam cleanser or a milk and foam cleanser. grin. i don't use make-up normally either.
do you use the Babor Hy-ol Cleanser or the Soothing Hy-ol Cleanser?
for the Dr H. cleansing cream, do you think it's ok that i use this and stay with my other LP productS? i was told that if we wanted to see effect for Dr H products, we would have to use their entire line!
ps. i was told that the UK Dr H. website shows us the "rolling and pressing" method of cleaning but never managed to find it. please do let me know if you come across any articles that describe the rolling and pressing method.
thanks! |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:13 am |
| Smoothskin wrote: |
| I have the same skin type as you, in fact I could not have described it better, and I have had great success with the Sisley Cleansing Milk with Lily. It takes off all my make up including mascara and leaves my skin feeling clean (not tight), balanced and glowing. I follow up with the Floral Toner which smells heavenly. |
hey smoothskin, it's good to know that my skin type is pretty "normal"! grin.
i tried a sample packget of the sisley cleansing milk with sage - SA recommended it since she determines that i have combination skin due to the large pores!
i'll see if i can find a sample of the lily to see which one is better. i loved the sage cleanser but ouch! sisley is even worse on my pocket than Lp! |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:14 am |
[quote="Skincare"]I would say to pick the one that EDS is selling so you can get samples of other lines. Who knows, you may discover another brand that is better.
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hehe! i didn't think of that! i hope i don't find more lemmings! it'll take ages to finish all the products i want to try as it is! |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:23 am |
| snowstar wrote: |
do you use the Babor Hy-ol Cleanser or the Soothing Hy-ol Cleanser? ( i read the reviews on MUA and couldn't tell which Hy-ol the girls were raving about).
thanks! |
Snowstar, I use the normal hy-öl, but I'm thinking about trying the soothing one. You can also alternate the hy-öl with different phytoactives.You should try to get some samples, it isn't the cheapest of cleansers.  |
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Live in Switzerland, age 32, dehydrated combination skin, sensitive to climate changes, some food and cosmetic products. Very fair. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:33 pm |
grin, i know! it's hard to get samples here in singapore. i believe they are only 1 or 2 salons they carry them  was thinking of ordering of EDS. |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:56 pm |
| i've oily to combination skin that is sensitive too.I used Sisley cleansing sage milk twice a day .My friend who has normal to combination skin recommend me to try Dr H. cleansing cream |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:21 pm |
| snowstar wrote: |
| tiger_tim wrote: |
I'll second the Babor cleansing oil. I guess you are using your oil at night and La Prarie foaming in the morning? In that case, and if you are planning on using for make-up removal, then go with Babor.
If you can afford it, also get the Dr. H. Cleansing cream as it is nice to use at night if not wearing make-up (that was my personal experience with it, anyway) |
hey tiger_tim, you got it almost right on! i use the foam cleanser in the morning but i double cleanser at night with either a oil and foam cleanser or a milk and foam cleanser. grin. i don't use make-up normally either.
do you use the Babor Hy-ol Cleanser or the Soothing Hy-ol Cleanser?
for the Dr H. cleansing cream, do you think it's ok that i use this and stay with my other LP productS? i was told that if we wanted to see effect for Dr H products, we would have to use their entire line!
ps. i was told that the UK Dr H. website shows us the "rolling and pressing" method of cleaning but never managed to find it. please do let me know if you come across any articles that describe the rolling and pressing method.
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I used the Hy-ol cleanser, paired with the Reactivating phytoactive.
As for Dr. H CC. I would not go using the LP foaming right after it. But you would have no trouble just using it alone at night 2-3 times a week. I found it a good cleanser to use if skin was a bit dehydrated (and in summer I probably could have gone without moisturizer)
In your case, since you do pretty intensive cleaning at night (oil + foam), why dont you try replacing your morning foaming cleanse with teh Dr.H. It would be much gentler on your skin I think and you would enjoy benefits of the cleanser long-term.
I dont believe that you have to use the full line of Dr. H to see the full benefits, but I think it helps if your entire routine was made up of those kind of natural products |
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SKIN: combination, reactive to climate changes and extremely fair. "Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself." --Roseanne |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:07 pm |
| snowstar wrote: |
i'm using IPSA cleansing oil and La Pairie foam cleanser now. The IPSA cleansing oil is coming to an end and i can't decide what to try next!
So far, i've shortlisted these:
1) Sisley cleansing milk (sage or lily?)
2) Babor Hyol and Phytosensitive
3) Dr H. cleansing cream
4) Erno laszlo soap
i've normal to combination skin that is sensitive, most SAs tell me "dehydrated on the outside, oily on the inside". cheeks have pretty large pores and flushes very easily.
any advice and input would be very very much appreciated!
thanks! |
I have tried all of the above cleansers & I would have to agree with the majority & also say go with either Dr H or Babor...both in terms of quality & price! The Sisley cleansers are quite nice, especially the cleansing milk with sage as it rinses off well & leaves no residue, the lily one is quite rich & it left my skin greasy. But they are both too expensive for a cleanser imo!  I didn't like Erno Laszlo at all.  |
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Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:31 pm |
Safire, thanks soooo much for a review!!! i can't believe my luck that someone has tried all the 4 cleansers i narrowed down!
thank you so much! i'm more than happy not to try the Sisley first 
i'll think of someway to incorporate Dr H in the routine since the LP foam cleanser lasts a life time. hehe. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:47 am |
| hehe... I was wondering next for my cleanser too. Good to know this thread. I did try Dr.H and I love it. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm |
| i don't know which one is good, but i do know sisley is not suitable for u. it's better for normal to dry. |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:17 pm |
| queenmary wrote: |
| i don't know which one is good, but i do know sisley is not suitable for u. it's better for normal to dry. |
oh, the SA recommened the cleansing milk with sage for combination/oily skin. thanks for the reminder though  |
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:18 pm |
thanks tiger_tim
i'm also glad this thread helped someone else! |
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:12 am |
| snowstar wrote: |
| queenmary wrote: |
| i don't know which one is good, but i do know sisley is not suitable for u. it's better for normal to dry. |
oh, the SA recommened the cleansing milk with sage for combination/oily skin. thanks for the reminder though |
sage more bad, i think u'd better use some foam cleaner, from some japanese brands. |
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:25 am |
| queenmary wrote: |
sage more bad, i think u'd better use some foam cleaner, from some japanese brands. |
hi, why is the sage even worse? i was told the cleansing milk is one of their best seller products. MUA always has great reviews.
Isn't it lily for dryer skin and sage for the oily/combi skin? |
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:56 am |
| snowstar wrote: |
| queenmary wrote: |
sage more bad, i think u'd better use some foam cleaner, from some japanese brands. |
hi, why is the sage even worse? i was told the cleansing milk is one of their best seller products. MUA always has great reviews.
Isn't it lily for dryer skin and sage for the oily/combi skin? |
sure it is, but when i use it, i feel sage is very oily, it like sage is for more dryer skin. i think u can get some sample from the store, just try it first, if it's good, ok. if not, save money for others. |
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:01 am |
| Try Ifeelprettyproducts.com. Kim just created 2 new face cleaners that I too want to try. So far, her products are awesome! |
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:34 pm |
I am currently using the Sisley (Lily) cleanser, and love it. It leaves my skin clean, feeling very soft and supple. While some of the Sisley products have cause breakouts for me, this one does not. It is, however, pricey for my tastes and I will try a different cleanser simply based on that fact.
I have tried the Dr Haushka, but find it a bit thick and feel it does not rinse off well.
Primavera Natural Balance makes a nice cleanser - I find it just ok...
My next try will probably be Sothys. Anyone out there familiar with their cleansers? |
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Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:01 pm |
Catspaw,
i've tried their soothing cleanser, and found it decent but nothing wonderful. they are very generous with samples and i suggest you try one out first.
like most milk cleansers, it is creamy and has no foaming properties. after rinsing with water, i feel there is a layer left on my skin. after sometime, i got used to it. phytomer cleansing milk didn't give me this feeling. i like the scent of darphin cleansing milk better |
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