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Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:39 pm Reply with quoteQuote
After a few days of using JMO/using non-sls/cones for the very first time, I've noticed that even though the shampoo feels alot more stripping on the mid lengths and ends than normal ones, my roots are still pretty greasy the next day after washing, which is very surprising and not what I expected. I've read that this is because the hair has to adjust to no SLS and hence will be come greasy for a period of time. Is this true/has anyone experienced this?
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When I quit using shampoo due to the sulfates and switched to (silicone-free) conditioner-only washing, my hair did go through an adjustment period. It looked a bit greasy for the first 3-4 weeks, and I was CO washing every day. One of the things that was key to adjusting to no sulfates with CO washing was doing thorough but gentle scalp massage. This helped reduce scalp debris and distribute sebum further down the hair shaft. From what I've read on various forums, the adjustment period typically lasts from 2-4 weeks; always your results may vary. IME, I am so glad that I stuck it out through the greasy phase (it looked worse than it felt) because it was the best thing I have done for my hair.
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Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:15 pm Reply with quoteQuote
That is a good tip Marci65.

I still feel I need a few cones in my hair products for my hair to behave properly. This gives me hope that I can try to abandom them forever.
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Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:20 pm Reply with quoteQuote
Thanks for the tip. Glad to know this is normal will try the massage.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:48 am Reply with quoteQuote
I'm in the same boat as Faith and I've also found that my hair looks dull, even with conditioner, is this due to the fact that I'm not using silicones/SLS on it now?
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Seconding Marci65's scalp massage tip. I've been pretty amazed at how well this works. My hair gets rather greasy at the crown but tends to dry out at the ends. (It's fairly long, below my shoulder blades.) I massage my scalp in the evenings, run a large-toothed comb through it, and go to bed. When I wake up, my hair seems to have a lot of body and with no obvious greasiness.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:21 am Reply with quoteQuote
So the massage is supposed to be done when your hair is dry or when you shampoo? How long do you massage for?
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FaithTruth wrote:
So the massage is supposed to be done when your hair is dry or when you shampoo? How long do you massage for?

I do scalp massage on both dry (when I remember) and wet hair. I don't use shampoo at all, so when I am using conditioner, I wet my hair thoroughly from scalp to ends, apply conditioner from scalp to ends (I use a generous amount of conditioner because this works very well for me; others who CO wash tend to use less on their scalp, but more conditioner there helps my fingers move smoothly over my scalp and hair), massage scalp with fingertips only (no nails!) and rinse well.

When I do scalp massage on dry hair, it's usually when I am sitting at the computer at night reading EDS posts. Laughing I just gently move my fingertips all along my scalp to loosen whatever scalp stuff might be there -- it's relaxing and supposedly also helps stimulate the scalp which can encourage hair growth. I only do dry scalp massage if I know I'm in for the night, in case flakes get disrupted -- not to mention that my hair gets messed up.

I massage for about 2-3 minutes and that works for me; I don't use a timer or anything, just goes by what feels okay. YMMV. I don't think you can hurt anything my doing it gently for a longer period of time, but not massaging for long enough may not help with cleaning your scalp and distributing oils.
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