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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:27 pm      Reply with quote
i know taning makes your skin really really bad, i already have a little bit of photoaging skin...but still, when i look back at my pix from the summer...i just look so good i think,i generaly think ppl look so much more sexier when they are taned...i really miss it, but i dont know what to do about it...i know there are fake tanning creams and stuff but they dont look good at all when you putt them on right?
what do you guys think?what do you guys do about this
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:33 pm      Reply with quote
this is my Fake tan, no UV at all - What do you think?? Smile Does it look fake to you? (other then the fact no redhead gets this dark!!)

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If done correctly - they don't look fake. Visit the messageboard at www.sunless.com for lots of help.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:46 pm      Reply with quote
OMG, you look amazing!!!!!!
that even looks better then my natural summer tan! thank you!
BTW, is this bad for the skin?
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:47 pm      Reply with quote
also, what products do you use?
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:48 pm      Reply with quote
hang on - we had a past post on this where I detailed lots of info - it will help. Let me find it.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:48 pm      Reply with quote
No it is not bad for the skin. Wink
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:50 pm      Reply with quote
See this link,

http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=19437&highlight=
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:55 pm      Reply with quote
I am a skin type 2, so my fake tan is much better then when I UV tanned. I am of a skintype that has a hard time getting much color, and the damage is not worth it in my opinion.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:02 pm      Reply with quote
That was an airbrush solution, hand applyed with a spray bottle and velour pad. That was Vani-T Tan. But I can also get that exact color with other products.

Tampa Bay Tan
AYU International
React Cosmetics are other that are nice and do well on me.

Current fav is Tampa Bay Tan TanFastic. But the AYU is nice to start with for a beginner because you can buy a sample bottle cheaply, and it works well also.

Links for each of those and how to apply are in the other post I linked to above.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:10 pm      Reply with quote
waw, thank you so much for you great help!
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:39 pm      Reply with quote
lipglossbaby wrote:
i know taning makes your skin really really bad, i already have a little bit of photoaging skin...but still, when i look back at my pix from the summer...i just look so good i think,i generaly think ppl look so much more sexier when they are taned...i really miss it, but i dont know what to do about it...i know there are fake tanning creams and stuff but they dont look good at all when you putt them on right?
what do you guys think?what do you guys do about this



I'm guessing you are pretty young still. Anyone here over 30 who has been a regular sun worshiper will tell you that it's just not worth it if you want to maintain young looking skin. My mum has been in the sun all her life. She loves it and she doesn't care that her skin looks like a rhino's scrotum. I don't want to look like that at her age so I minimise sun exposure especially in summer

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Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:02 pm      Reply with quote
You look fabby Tangirl.
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:20 pm      Reply with quote
thanks. Smile
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:54 pm      Reply with quote
Wow, Tangal, you are so pretty! Such smooth, clear skin, and your lips look fab! I like the color of your hair, too.

Tell me, what is "type 2" skin? Also, do the sunless products you use have varying levels of pigment ... meaning a product to use if you are naturally fair vs. one to use if you are naturally darker? I think Neutrogena has different products for fair and darker skin.
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:30 pm      Reply with quote
Laughing Laughing Laughing rhino's scrotum Laughing
..............okay, enough of my immaturity...ahem

Whatever you do lipglossbaby, do not go tanning. You'll regret it later like I do. I mean, it literally ruined my skin. I have pigmentation issues now, on my face AND my chest, and large pores from the sun damage and I hate the looks of my chest, a couple years ago my youngest sister said it looked "leathery" so that goes to show ya.
The thing is, you look healthier and have a nice glow to you when you tan, but its really just hiding the damage its doing, and one day, in the tanning lights(they highlight every crappy thing about you) I looked at my face and it was all reddish veiny, if that makes any sense, and my pores looked sooooooooooooo horrible, I finally stopped, but I miss it alot. Now, I'm trying to fix the damage, but I still look like hell 80 percent of the time. Very Happy

Btw.. I don't mind the fake tanner, but one time I had it sprayed on me at my hairdressers, and it made my pores fill in with the stuff and they looked even bigger, and when I went to exfoliate I would get patched on my forehead where it would be lighter..do you know why that is Tangal?
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:43 pm      Reply with quote
yep - had to do with the product ypu used.

Not all do that.

Personally I ONLY use a clear untinted products on the face, to prevent this.

I also recomend you use a BHA product regularly and Jojoba Oil regularly to start to get those pores down to a more normal samller size. This will prevent self tanner from pooling in them.

The I Feel Pretty Product BHA/AHA spray solution is excellent for enlarged facial pores. I used to have them badly also. Not now though.
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 3:48 pm      Reply with quote
Mermaid - Thankyou. Wink Taken a bit to get there, but I have found products and routine that works well for me.

See this for skintypes.
http://www.sunless.com/choosing/skintype.php

Self Tanners come in different darkness/depths. And the label info (light, medium and dark) is not always an accurate gage alone.

So you normally need to go by the DHA (Dihydroxyacetone) percentage and or placement on the label, in each product. (thats the active ingrediant that creates the tan) www.sunless.com has lots more info on that part.

But Airbrush Solutions usually list the % as 5%, 8%, 10%, 12% etc. 8% works well for most, though many of our boardmemebrs buy 12% products and dilute to their specific ppreference.

Drugstore products dont list %. Most drugstore products are about 5%. Gradual Daily Tanners are usually 3-5%. Some are only 1%

Roughly in drugstore lines:

Light- 3-4% DHA
Medium 5%-6% DHA - majority of DS products.
Dark 7-8% DHA

But many Drugstore lines labeled dark, are really more of a medium in actual use, some are even lights.
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:00 pm      Reply with quote
RazinKane, pre tanning prep, how you mintain, and how you do your final exfoliation before reapplying- can alter haow well your tan fades quite a bit.

Most people do it incorrectly, many spas/salons don't clearly understand or explian these steps correctly.

This may help a bit.
http://www.sunless.com/phorum/read.php?f=3&i=32970&t=32970

(I am Vicki)
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:34 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks Tangal. I do use the bha from ifeelpretty but not the bha/aha combo. I use mandelic acid on top of the bha every other night as per your suggestion I think. Next time I order from ifeelpretty I may order the bha/aha stuff though. I have jojoba oil but don't use it very often. I forgot why. Can I mix it with the advocado, rosehip and emu mix I have been doing, or atleast mix it with rosehip?
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:36 pm      Reply with quote
you can mix jojoba with your other oils. Jopjoba help regulate skins oil production, and also helps pores to shes debris better, helping them return to a more normal size.
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:40 pm      Reply with quote
you may be able to bump BHA upto nightly use, if skin tolerates it. At least on the enlarged pore areas. Smile

Mandelic is fine also as your AHA. You can use it instead of the lactic AHA if you prefer and it works well for you.
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:45 pm      Reply with quote
Tangal wrote:
Mermaid - Thankyou. Wink Taken a bit to get there, but I have found products and routine that works well for me.

See this for skintypes.
http://www.sunless.com/choosing/skintype.php
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Tangal, thank you for the (as usual) fabulous information.

Question: Would you classify me as a hybrid between Type 2 and 3? I am fair with pink undertones and I always burn first and then eventually tan later when in the sun (I never go in the sun now!). My Pa is Scottish, English, Irish and Native American (he's more light/medium skinned and as an adult had dark brown hair, but was a towhead as a child, and he has light brown eyes) and my Mom is 100% Italian (northern Italy - she is fair-skinned, blonde and has hazel eyes). In spite of my light color and that of my parents', somewhere in my background there is someone who had lots of melanin because if I spend enough time in the sun, I can get very, very, very dark. Is this just a function of being in the sun for long enough that I basically blacken (destroy) my skin or am I some sort of Type 2 - 3 combo?
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Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:11 pm      Reply with quote
You are probably a Skintype 2/3 or a 3A.

The "real" Fizgereald Skin Tone catagories that is based on actually are 2A, 2B, 2C, 3A, 3B, 3C and so forth.

But they are not broke down so far on that guide. To confusing. Wink

So for all intents and purposes, use the info for both 2 and 3 and see which applys better to you, as both probably will apply to an extent. Wink

The main difference, Skintype 2s use lighter products, and have more issues turning golden or yellow with self tanners, so need to make adjustments for that.

Skintype 3s rarely turn yellow or orange, yet have more difficulty finding a self tanner that gets them as dark as their UV tanning days. Most drugstore self tanners are two light. But you can use darker products then a skintype 2.

So you may lean more toward either direction, or be smack dab in the middle.

I am a Skintype 2C, but call myself 2/3 because I can get very dark with a self tan, darker then I can UV tanning.

I need darker products, lighter ones don't do well on me, or produce little color. But I can get a bit yellow/golden if not careful. Wink
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