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HairMax Laser Comb? Looks Like a LightStim
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Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:03 pm      Reply with quote
Somebody sent me a link for the HairMax laser comb which apparently has been approved by the FDA as a hair restorer. http://www.lasercomb.net/ (I think FDA approval is for the safety of the laser, not necessarily for the results, though.)

It looks very much like a Lightstim LED. Price is different - $595 vs. $169.

Has anybody used a handheld red/near infrared home device for stimulating hair growth on her head?

Has anybody noticed beard growth stimulated by a Lightstim or other similar device?
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:19 pm      Reply with quote
I am also interested in HairMAX Laser Comb.

I received an email about it from Spalook, it sells for $545 and you can get a 20% discount of you use "HOLIDAY20" code.

Does anyone know anything about this product?

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The Leimo Hair Laser has been getting allot of press in Australia, price AUD$1,295 - but I've had no first hand experience with it so don't know whether these devices are effective or not. I presume that they're based on the same technology that they use in hair loss clinics.

http://www.leimo.com.au/

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. Regrow your hair. The LEIMO Laser is listed as a Class IIa medical device on the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods.
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. Cost effective unlike some clinic-based treatments which will cost $5,000 to $10,000 per year!
. Equally effective for both men and women.
Can be used in the privacy of your own home so no need to find time to visit a hair loss clinic.
. Obtain Real results with over 90% of all users satisfied with the results achieved within the first twelve months of use.
. Easy to use with an inbuilt timer automatically and conveniently shuts off the laser after each treatment.
. Can be used anywhere and anytime due to its unique cordless handheld design.
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Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:35 am      Reply with quote
I can't link to the website because I am new, but if you google OverMachoGrande it will take you to a website that has the technical data on LaserBrushes. There is plenty to read, but if you scroll down on the left hand side and go to The Original Laser Brush Instructions, it will show you how to build your own brush for about $50. Cool

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Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:34 am      Reply with quote
Keliu and Dazed, thank you very much for your help. I went to OverMachoGrande website and also researched the Leimo Hair Laser. Thank you.

However, I am still looking for first hand experience with these devices.

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Here is a quote from OverMachoGrande, "Should *you* be doing high-powered laser therapy?? I’ve been using my laser helmet that gives roughly 5 joules/cm2 per session as a part of my regimen since December 6th, 2007, and the results are amazing. I have never seen anything like this in the more-than-a-decade that I’ve been fighting hairloss. It’s working *exactly* like the often-ignored studies involving clinical lasers say it should be, and it’s paralleling the results touted by laser clinics. I’ve said this in forums before, and I’ll say it again here: Seeing what has occurred after such a short time would make me VERY NERVOUS if I ever had to fight hair loss without my laser helmet ever again!"
You may not be inclined to build one of these yourself, but almost everybody knows a TechnoNerd who would gladly build one for you at a fraction of the cost of a store bought one.

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Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:27 pm      Reply with quote
I would be very interested to find out the difference, if any, between hair lasers and LED devices such as the Lightstim and Baby Q.
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Keliu, "What is the difference between LED's and LASERS?

Light Emitting Diodes (LED's) are another form of light therapy that is a relatively recent development of the laser industry. LEDs are similar to lasers inasmuch as they can emit the same light but differ in the way that the light energy is delivered.

Lasers are focused beam single-wavelength light emitters that can be intense enough (a 'hot' laser) to burn/cut tissue or 'cold' enough to only have light therapy effects. LEDs do not deliver enough power to damage the tissue, but they do deliver enough energy to stimulate a response from the body to heal itself. With a low peak power output but high duty cycle , the LEDs provide a much gentler delivery of the same healing wavelengths of light as does the laser but without the same risk of accidental eye damage that lasers do.

A significant difference between lasers and LEDs is the power output. The peak power output of LEDs and low level lasers are measured in thousandths of a watt, while that of “hot” lasers is measured in watts. However, this difference when considered alone is misleading, since the most critical factor that determines the average amount of energy delivered is the duty cycle of the device. LED devices have a 85% duty cycle. That is, the LED pulse is ON for .85 seconds and OFF for .15 seconds, versus the .2 millionths of a second burst from a laser at 1 hertz, which is ON .0000002 seconds and OFF for .9999998 seconds. This is a .00002% duty cycle. In short, the LED diodes can emit at least 33% more 'average' energy than a comparable powered laser diode because of the substantially longer duty cycle, even though the peak output is much less.

Moreover, LED's allow the light beam to spread out instead of being a pinpoint light beam and they generate a broader band of wavelengths than does the single-wavelength laser. The wide-angle diffusion of the LED confers upon it a greater ease of application, since light emissions are thereby able to penetrate a broader surface area. Moreover, the multiplicity of wavelengths in the LED, contrary to the single-wavelength laser, may enable it to affect a broader range of tissue types and produce a wider range of photochemical reactions in the tissue.

If LED light disperses over a greater surface area, this results in a faster treatment time for a given area than laser. The primary reason that we chose the LEDs over lasers is that LEDs are safer, more cost effective, provide a gentle but effective delivery of light and a greater energy output per unit of surface area in a given time duration."

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Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:58 pm      Reply with quote
I used my LED on my scalp for 2 months and saw no improvement.

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Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:16 am      Reply with quote
Check the very long baby Q thread. There was at one time, information in there about using it for hair loss. I didn't have any luck, however.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:44 pm      Reply with quote
I thought I'd resurrect this thread since I see New Beauty has a full-page ad on the HairMax laser comb. Has anyone tried it? Had good results? Any results? Know anyone who has used it? It looks like a regular LED red light device. The reviews I've seen on Beauty Products Reviews aren't exactly positive. I'm guessing the regular ol' BQ and AALS would do the same job.

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Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:53 pm      Reply with quote
Several of us bought the laser max home device that is 90 lasers. The reviews I saw for the laser combs weren't very good. The supplier that I bought the lasermax from also sells the laser combs but I think he mainly recommends them for people that have a home unit and just use the comb when they are traveling. It seems the combs don't have enough lasers in them to really get things going with hair growth. Others may have more information that can share here.


Also LED lights and low level lasers for hair growth are very different.

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Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:43 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks Toby... I hadn't realised that this was somewhat complicated. It looks just like a light device with comb teeth on it.

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Wondering if anyone who bought Jeff's 90 laser unit ever got it?? I ordered mine a couple (few?) wks ago, and supposedly my credit cards won't go through. Totally baffled by this, and still waiting for my unit. Anyone else had a problem with their purchase? If not, how is the unit working?

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I ordered off ebay but I think it was indirectly from Jeff. Anyway my unit came within a week and so far I am very pleased. The directions say to use it daily for two weeks, then every other day for two weeks, then three times a week. My hair stylist that has low level laser treatments for clients says it will help improve hair that is already there as well as promote new hair growth and thicken the diameter. My situation is terrible breakage from a bad perm and color done at another salon. I have been told by two sources that the laser treatments can prevent further breakage and strengthen the hair that is there now. So my review for the short time I have had mine is very good. I can tell the condition of my hair is better. Now would this happen on it's own given time, possibly. I will give a decent review at four months down the road.
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I am very interested in thickening the diameter... I look forward to your feedback Smile

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mountaingirl wrote:
Wondering if anyone who bought Jeff's 90 laser unit ever got it?? I ordered mine a couple (few?) wks ago, and supposedly my credit cards won't go through. Totally baffled by this, and still waiting for my unit. Anyone else had a problem with their purchase? If not, how is the unit working?


I got mine very quickly, but one of my little arms had come unattached at 2 places and could not be popped back on so I had to get a special pair of loc-line pliars (Jeff offered to send me a pair, but I just bought a set in case I needed them in the future).

I hope to use mine (and my STOP!) tomorrow.

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