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Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:08 pm      Reply with quote
This winter with all the cold temps in my area, I have noticed my face becoming VERY dry. I am EXTREMELY sensitive to oils any heavier than jojoba and emu oil. However, to my dismay, these two oils were just not doing enough to moisturize.
I have just recently incorporated pure vegetable glycerine into my routine - thick at night then diluted with at least equal parts water for day (applying under makeup as my moisturizer)... In three days, my skin has all but stopped peeling, and my face looks and feels soft and glowy. Hope this helps anyone struggling with the same problem.
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:19 pm      Reply with quote
Interesting!

Do you order it online or do they sell it at drugstores?

I've noticed glycerine is an ingredient in many serums and have been meaning to get some for my DIY serums.

No clogged pores or breakouts?

Wow!!! I want some! Very Happy

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Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:26 pm      Reply with quote
Wow.. Sounds like what I need for my super dry skin. Where do you get yours?
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:19 pm      Reply with quote
Hi everyone, wave

You should be able to buy regular glycerin in any drug store. I even saw it at WalMart.

But the vegetable glycerin DIY Girl is talking about is usually found in health food stores. That's where I bought mine.

I use it to make my vitamin C serum and love what the serum does for my skin. I do find it rich, so I use very little.

The brand I have is Now, and it's 100% pure.

I just check for you ladies, and you can get it online through vitaminshoppe:

Here's the link:

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=vegetable+glycerin&x=0&y=0&intsource=main

They probably have it instore, too. And there might be other online stores that carry it also.

hth
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:04 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks montrealgal. I love Vitamin Shoppe!! Got one nearby, too! Do you think I can use it on my eczema?
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Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:48 pm      Reply with quote
poohlisey wrote:
Thanks montrealgal. I love Vitamin Shoppe!! Got one nearby, too! Do you think I can use it on my eczema?


You're welcome, poohlisey. I like VS, too - especially with their rebate program. I discovered it on my last trip down to the US.

Re: using the veg glycerin on your eczema, you might want to check with your derm. I do have eczema, but not on my face (for me it's breasts and wrist area). I've only started using the veg glycerin a few months ago and I haven't had an eczema outbreak in that time (although I don't know if I would have thought to try it!). The symptoms I get are itching and flaking skin.

But imo, I think it should be ok. My face is just recovering from a reaction to a product I used (see my thread 'Reaction to copper peptides?'), which made my face rough and dry and flakey. Once the roughness abated, I used a gentle scrub and then my homemade vitamin C serum that I make with the veg glycerin. It really helped with the flakiness. My skin is almost back to normal.

Maybe someone else using it on their eczema will weigh in. And you might want to try it on a small area first.

Btw, I rarely have eczema outbreaks anymore. The solution for me is watching my sugar intake. I also heard acidophillus helps, which I take anyway.

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p.s. if you try it, I'd love to hear how it worked for you.
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:09 am      Reply with quote
I used a 30% mixture of vegetable glycerine mixed with water when my Zenbiotic moisturiser ran out. Glycerine is extremely moisturising, and the DIY mixture left my skin feeling slightly heavy - but it did wonders for softening the skin on my body.

If anyone needs a deep oil free moisturising ingredient - glycerine is the way to go!
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Vegetable glycerin is also an excellent solvent for some of the harder to dissolve active ingredient powders, eg. ferulic acid, chrysin, pomegranate extract powder, grape seed proanthocyanidins, but I have found that it can liquify a cream if I add too much.

On its own, or mixed within an aqueous solution or lipid serum beyond a concentration of 10%, I have found it starts to feel sticky and tacky on the skin.
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nyonyakay wrote:
Vegetable glycerin is also an excellent solvent for some of the harder to dissolve active ingredient powders, eg. ferulic acid, chrysin, pomegranate extract powder, grape seed proanthocyanidins, but I have found that it can liquify a cream if I add too much.

On its own, or mixed within an aqueous solution or lipid serum beyond a concentration of 10%, I have found it starts to feel sticky and tacky on the skin.


I second that about the stickiness. I had forgotten that the first time I made my c serum, I used it with distilled water in a 1:1 ratio. It was terrible -- I ended up throwing it out. I think I use about a 12.5% concentration now, but my skin is on the dehydrated side, so it works for me.

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He he, I made the same mistake with my first Vitamin C + Glycerin + Distilled Water. Didn't want to waste that, so I slapped it on my arms and legs - for some reason, it was much less tackier on those appendages - 30 minutes before my shower. Then I washed it off - boy, did I have smooth arms and legs. That's when I realised I should be using it (the Vitamin C that is) wherever I was spotty.

I have made errors with my DIY mixes before, which have wound up plastered over my arms and legs - nothing gets wasted, and I think I have better skin all round. Smile
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:02 am      Reply with quote
try mixing 10% vegetable glycerine with 90% aloe vera gel for a lovely light summer moisturiser, or mixing it with between 70% to 90% rosewater for a moisturising toner. This is fantastic for dry skin. I have normal skin with an oily t-zone but find my skin loves glycerin in small doses.
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poohlisey wrote:
Thanks montrealgal. I love Vitamin Shoppe!! Got one nearby, too! Do you think I can use it on my eczema?


You're welcome, poohlisey. I like VS, too - especially with their rebate program. I discovered it on my last trip down to the US.

Re: using the veg glycerin on your eczema, you might want to check with your derm. I do have eczema, but not on my face (for me it's breasts and wrist area). I've only started using the veg glycerin a few months ago and I haven't had an eczema outbreak in that time (although I don't know if I would have thought to try it!). The symptoms I get are itching and flaking skin.

But imo, I think it should be ok. My face is just recovering from a reaction to a product I used (see my thread 'Reaction to copper peptides?'), which made my face rough and dry and flakey. Once the roughness abated, I used a gentle scrub and then my homemade vitamin C serum that I make with the veg glycerin. It really helped with the flakiness. My skin is almost back to normal.

Maybe someone else using it on their eczema will weigh in. And you might want to try it on a small area first.

Btw, I rarely have eczema outbreaks anymore. The solution for me is watching my sugar intake. I also heard acidophillus helps, which I take anyway.

hth
montrealgal wave

p.s. if you try it, I'd love to hear how it worked for you.


Maybe I can try to mix glycerin with aloe vera gel. I still get eczema breakouts.. And I get it easy if I don't moisturize myself. Sad Glycerin is sticky? Shock
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:39 am      Reply with quote
It may not be on your skin - try a teensy weensy bit straight and see.

DIYers please note this from wikipedia: " When used as an emollient, glycerol (i.e. glycerin) should never be applied undiluted to the skin. The same powerful hygroscopic property that draws moisture out of the air to moisten the skin will draw moisture out of the skin if the glycerol is too concentrated. A minimum of two or three parts water should be added to one part glycerol." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerin
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nyonyakay wrote:
It may not be on your skin - try a teensy weensy bit straight and see.

DIYers please note this from wikipedia: " When used as an emollient, glycerol (i.e. glycerin) should never be applied undiluted to the skin. The same powerful hygroscopic property that draws moisture out of the air to moisten the skin will draw moisture out of the skin if the glycerol is too concentrated. A minimum of two or three parts water should be added to one part glycerol." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycerin


That's good to know, nyonyakay. I also found this link that says roughly the same thing:

http://www.pioneerthinking.com/glycerin.html

(See the section: But what is glycerin, really?)

The author includes this footnote:
(1) The pure chemical product is called Glycerol (which shows that it is an alcohol), while the impure commercial product is called Glycerin. This is a technical complexity, so for this article, I'm sticking to the more familiar term, Glycerin.


But since we're talking about veg glycerin here, I don't think the caveat applies. I have a bottle of NOW(r) Vegetable Glycerin (100% pure), and the labels says it is "derived entirely from vegetable oil." The label also says it is "safe for both topical and internal use."

From the label: "(VG) may also be used as a natural low-glycemic sweetener [I did read that years ago on another forum] or as a base for herbal extracts. For soft, moisturized skin, simply massage a few drops of Now(r) Vegetable Glycering on desired areas, as intended. Discontinue use if rednes or irritaton occurs."

(this is the first time I read the entire label!)

hth
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:48 am      Reply with quote
montrealgal,

According to the pioneerthinking link you just posted:

"Glycerin is also highly "hygroscopic" which means that it absorbs water from the air. Example: if you left a bottle of pure glycerin exposed to air in your kitchen, it would take moisture from the air and eventually, it would become 80 per glycerin and 20 percent water.Because of this hygroscopic quality, pure, 100 percent glycerin placed on the tongue may raise a blister, since it is dehydrating. Diluted with water, however, it will soften your skin."

I understand that "glycerin" and "glycerol" are two different products, for which the names are often used interchangeably. This is largely because "Glycerin, whether recovered from triglycerides or synthesized, is principally used as a highly refined and purified product, with a very high concentration of glycerol." http://www.cleaning101.com/oleo/whygly2.cfm

Therefore, I would still err on the side of caution by diluting vegetable glycerin as advised.
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Vegetable glycerin is also an excellent solvent for some of the harder to dissolve active ingredient powders, eg. ferulic acid, chrysin, pomegranate extract powder, grape seed proanthocyanidins, but I have found that it can liquify a cream if I add too much.

On its own, or mixed within an aqueous solution or lipid serum beyond a concentration of 10%, I have found it starts to feel sticky and tacky on the skin.


I'd be interested to know what other forum members have managed to dissolve with glycerin. Question
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I got my glycerin from a local craft store in the soap-making section. In the past I have also gotten it from drug stores (sometimes you have to ask the pharmacist). I used it in my sugar scrub, but don't know why I never thought to use it as simply a facial moisturizer - glad it finally occurred to me!!

OH - ADDITIONAL BENEFIT : I have also noticed that the fine lines under my eyes have also reduced (probably finally correctly moisturized) - which nothing else that I have tried has been able to acheive. (oils, commercial moisturizers, steam treatments, etc.) YAY!!
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:36 pm      Reply with quote
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montrealgal,

Therefore, I would still err on the side of caution by diluting vegetable glycerin as advised.


Hi nyonyakay,

I think erring on the side of caution is good advice. Thanks for your explanation (above) - I learned something!

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nyonyakay wrote:
Vegetable glycerin is also an excellent solvent for some of the harder to dissolve active ingredient powders, eg. ferulic acid, chrysin, pomegranate extract powder, grape seed proanthocyanidins, but I have found that it can liquify a cream if I add too much.

On its own, or mixed within an aqueous solution or lipid serum beyond a concentration of 10%, I have found it starts to feel sticky and tacky on the skin.


I'd be interested to know what other forum members have managed to dissolve with glycerin. Question


I find that it emulsifies with water very well, I just shake it in a bottle and it completely dissolves.
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Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:58 am      Reply with quote
Hi!

Although I have not tried it myself, it is my understanding that Stevia hydrates the skin significantly more than glycerin.

I have used glycerin in the past and liked it and have meant to try using Stevia for many months now but just haven't gotten around to it. I am not sure how it would be used... but if anyone has or does try it I would be interested in your results...

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BIG TIP HERE!!

You want ultimate moisturization with the benefits of glycerin and jojoba oil? Go out immediately and buy a tube of Gold Bond Ultimate Healing Lotion. Our company helped to create the "moisturizing effect" of this product. We found that glycerin, combined with a derivative of jojoba oil is EXTREMELY moisturizing. Hence, the "24 Hour Moisturizing" claim that the Gold Bond people are quite truthfully able to advertise. This formula also has jojoba esters in it which we have proven to be extremely occlusive (traps water underneath). Therefore, not only does this product have ingredients that draws moisture skin, but it is also able to trap that moisture at the skin surface for extremely long term moisturization.

This product is inexpensive, can be found at Walgreen's, Target, WalMart, etc. etc.

Once you try it you won't go back to anything eles, it is that good at healing and moisturizing dry skin. You will know you have the right product when you look on the ingredients list and see "glycerin", "hydrolyzed jojoba esters" and "jojoba esters" in the list.

...by the way, "glycerin", "glycerine" and "glycerol" are all the EXACT same thing. There is no difference, except to different chemist in different fields of chemistry such as an organic chemist, versus a USDA agricultural chemist. They have their own conventions for naming things, and these three names are commonly used and often interchangeably.

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Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:03 pm      Reply with quote
I agree with John. This is the BEST body lotion I have ever used.

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Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:08 pm      Reply with quote
Will look for Gold Bond ultimate lotion. I love how jojoba hydrates my skin.

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I went to pick up the Gold Bond ultimate lotion on a trip to the US (don't know if it's available in Canada yet) but unfortunately it contains propylene glycol, which triggers asthma attacks for me, so I cannot use it. Any other suggestions?

I especially need something for my hands. I'm using Eucerin calming cream now and it's pretty good but not sure if it's a HG for me.

Thanks!
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Hi montrealgal,

I was wondering if you could post your Vitamin C Serum recipe using glycerin I'm interested in measurements so I can attempt to make it.

How do I make a 20% vitamin C Serum do you just use less glycerin & distilled water?

Thanks in advance if you can help me I'm really excited to start to attempt to make my first vit C Serum.
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