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Confused about PH Balance!
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:55 am      Reply with quote
I'm confused about this whole PH balance thing. I hear a lot about it and that products need to be a certain PH for the skin, for the hair etc. Does this apply to every product you use, or just the cleanser? What about acidic products? What about toners? What about moisturizer? Oxygen Products? What about shampoo/conditioner? What about body cleansers? Is there a difference in the skin on the face as the rest of the body? Why do people seem to be ok with soaps as long as they are used on the body only and not on the face? Or does it all have to be the same? And the majority of products do NOT say what their PH is, so how do you know?

OK, so I was already confused about that, what is usually said and thought about the whole PH then.

Then I have to start reading about that company that so many seem to rave about here since I first mentioned them, Zenbiotic! They claim that Alkaline is what is healthy for the skin and hair and provides oxygen and that Acidic or lower PH stuff is what is bad for the skin and actually robs it of oxygen or whatever! What gives? With people saying the opposite thing is what is bad for the skin, how do you know what the right thing for the skin is? A lot of people seem to like the Zenbiotic line and it is all alkaline!

"High PH Value and Oxygen Presence - the Acid vs. Alkaline Argument

Oxygen is the most crucial element our skin needs to perform metabolic processes, which directly relates to healthier looking skin. Our products have a pH value between 7.5 to 8.5, which indicates alkalinity and, therefore, oxygen abundance. Why is Zenbiotic alkaline , when most other skin care formulations are acidic-based, which is oxygen deficient by nature?

Skin has many important functions, one of which, is waste elimination. Skin actually breathes in oxygen and expels carbon dioxide, poisons, toxins, and metabolic by-products, all of which have an acidic pH value. The acid mantel of skin is therefore naturally acidic.

Skin cells, however, do not reflect this pH value and rely heavily upon nutrient-enriched water and oxygen, which are alkaline by nature. A ph of 7.01 or higher, which is alkaline, indicates oxygen abundance; acids (pH 6.99 and lower) are oxygen deficient. Without oxygen, skin cells would experience degenerative effects and age prematurely.

Our technology naturally attracts an abundance of oxygen and indeed the ingredients within our formulations reflect the alkaline nature of herbs and vegetables, nutrition as prescribed in a healthy diet. Because our technology delivers oxygen and nutrition directly to skin cells, the use of chemicals, alcohol, and other acid-based substances would cancel out the health effect.

So if Zenbiotic is to supplement how the body sustains skin cells via the blood delivery system, which has to be alkaline to carry oxygen, our topically-applied formulas reflect the pH of this natural system."
http://www.zenbiotic.com/skinadvantage.htm
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:05 am      Reply with quote
Be confused no more, it was all explained here: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=18360
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:35 am      Reply with quote
Zenbiotic just wants to frighten consumers into buying their products.

I would be particularly wary of any product or treatment that delivers additional oxygen to the skin over and above what we are exposed to environmentally because singlet oxygen molecules = free radicals that cause ageing!

Within the mitochondria oxygen free radicals are continuously being formed. The rate of formation depends on the amount of oxygen flowing through the mitochondria at any given time.

So don't get sucked in by Zenbiotic's marketing spiel!
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:30 pm      Reply with quote
BYRG wrote:
...A lot of people seem to like the Zenbiotic line .....


Whoaaa....I've just seen this thread: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=21056&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It seems a number of EDS members would disagree.
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