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Dandruff/flakes-- how to get rid of it?
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:13 am      Reply with quote
OK- I just recently noticed that i have flakes (dandruff type) on my hair. I don't know, how i got it, I wash my hair with shampoo (2 in 1 pantene,the green bottle) EVERY day. I don't know how to get rid of it? The only method recently i tried is clarifying shampoo (Suave Daily Clarifying) which kinda didn't see much change, still have flakes. I don't know why my hair has flakes i haven't changed my routine, the only thing has changed is i'm kinda eating more healthy (2 apples and about half a bag of baby carrots a day). This "flakes" (dandruff) has happened VERY recently in the last 6 months. I don't know how to get rid of it, tried head n shoulders. I have black hair, which makes it even MORE noticeable, especially when the sun is out. I just noticed about a week ago my hair, when i touch the scalp part of it, it is oily and my scalp gets itchy, which makes me wanna scratch it but, i restrain myself. This is new to me the itchy-ness, the flakes, the oily-ness has just 2-3 weeks ago just occured.

Any good advice will definitely appreciate.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:26 am      Reply with quote
You can try an EO blend. Using some carrier oils to mix in Rosemary and Ylang Ylang EO's which help with dandruff and flaking. Use that to massage into the scalp before you shampoo. Also you can add about 6 drops of each into your shampoo.

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Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:32 am      Reply with quote
I found when I change my diet (I have allergies) it can affect my scalp and skin. Also winter (dry) weather. A dermatologist recommended Ginger shampoo from the body shop.It helps with various conditions. Also found the shampoo I used for years suddenly didn't agree. Sometimes ingredients change. Again, one more thing it could be seborea, dermatitis. That you would have to check with a dermatologist.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:47 pm      Reply with quote
Without having to change my shampoo or conditioner (I use an el cheapo Aussie brand called Decore), I got rid of years of flaking by adding two Ayuverdic herb powders to my conditioner - Amla extract (very very rich in Vitamin C), and Bhringraj extract.

At only 1% concentration each, they turned my conditioner a dirty brown and banished my dandruff. It's nice, I didn't have to spend more $$$ trying out different more expensive shampoos.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:38 pm      Reply with quote
For me, any simple dandruff shampoo with zinc in it gets rid of the problem. I only get this during the winter and a couple of times each week I use the dandruff shampoo. Works like a charm.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:53 pm      Reply with quote
Selsun Blue won't work on my dandruff and neither would Head and Shoulders or Neutrogena T-Gel. However I changed to non-SLS shampoo, and added Rosemary and Lavender EO in both shampoo and conditioner. My scalp feels clean and no more flakes. Lavender EO has an anti-fungal property. I cannot use Tea Tree Oil because it's too drying on my poor dry hair. So if your hair is dry, forget Tea Tree oil.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:01 pm      Reply with quote
OK, I know I'm blur and deserved to be laughed at, but I kinda have the same issues, only it's not severe, and I'm trying to understand - is dandruff/flakes caused by a dry scalp? In that case how come people like us who get flakes also have an OILY scalp?
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:08 pm      Reply with quote
FaithTruth wrote:
OK, I know I'm blur and deserved to be laughed at, but I kinda have the same issues, only it's not severe, and I'm trying to understand - is dandruff/flakes caused by a dry scalp? In that case how come people like us who get flakes also have an OILY scalp?


Your scalp is not so different from the skin on your face or body. It has a lipid barrier and it needs nutrients. When the barrier gets continually stripped away from harsh shampoos (think alkaline non-pH balanced, sulfate surfactant-based shampoos), it tells you it's unhappy by getting oil/dry/flakey, etc.

You can compensate for it by ensuring you use a nice nutrient-rich CONDITIONER, and massaging this into your scalp after every shampoo.

I know lots of people like getting expensive nutrient-rich shampoos, which is all well and good, but shampoos are by and large ANIONIC in nature. That is to say, they are designed to wash away, rather than deposit chemicals/substances.

Conditioners on the other hand are CATIONIC in nature - they are designed to deposit and coat the hair shaft and the scalp, if you massage it well in.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:27 pm      Reply with quote
comptom--i dye my hair with henna and this always helps to control oil and dandruff for a couple weeks. i know many people won't henna their hair just for that benefit though.

i find that dandruff isn't just caused by a dry scalp but by an oily scalp. I add oil regulating carrier oils like jojoba into my shampoos and recently the addition of liquid beta glucans had been great at controlling dandruff for me. i shampoo and leave my hair for about 2-3 minutes and i find that my scalp has been behaving very well lately.

i also recently found that avalon organics uses beta glucans in its tea tree shampoo and conditioner line:

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"Beta glucan demonstrates immune-enhancing properties interntally as well as when applied topically. Scalp irritation is frequently caused by inflamed cells and beta glucan can help reduce this.

Product description: This shampoo balances the scalp's delicate chemistry and gently cleanses, as restorative beta glucan helps reduce dryness and irritation.



http://www.avalonorganics.com/index.php?id=88&pid=30

Interesting that adding beta glucans into my shampoo has been helping me scalp tremendously and now I find avalon organics does the same.

i don't really recommend rubbing conditioner into your scalp unless it's a conditioner designed to do so or as nyonyakay suggested, if special herbs or other additives are included.

HTH, Kristen

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Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:33 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for explaining - however my scalp is oily so I could never get away with massaging a conditioner into my scalp - I get flakes and itchiness even though I put my conditioner on the ends only, so I agree that for me at least, the flakes are caused by oily scalp. I am using Avalon with the beta glucans now - am absolutely in love with their shampoos. Am hoping that the SLS and cone-free routine which I only switched to a few weeks ago will help my scalp get better eventually.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:36 pm      Reply with quote
FaithTruth wrote:
Thanks for explaining - however my scalp is oily so I could never get away with massaging a conditioner into my scalp - I get flakes and itchiness even though I put my conditioner on the ends only, so I agree that for me at least, the flakes are caused by oily scalp. I am using Avalon with the beta glucans now - am absolutely in love with their shampoos. Am hoping that the SLS and cone-free routine which I only switched to a few weeks ago will help my scalp get better eventually.


The point is, it is a matter of massaging the RIGHT conditioner into your scalp, leaving it for 2-3 minutes, and then washing it off. Think ingredients, think Anionic (wash-away), think Cationic (deposit).
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:30 pm      Reply with quote
I find that cade oil (from the juniper) is very effective in dealing with dandruff, which is often caused by a yeast type infection of the scalp. So I use a solid shampoo inpregnated with cade oil once a weekto keep my dandruff banished. The one I use is Lush brand Soak and Float--used once a week a bar lasts me for about a year.

In the past I've also used Nizoral once or twice a week and found the non-prescription drug store strength works also.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:32 pm      Reply with quote
My ex-husband swore by using straight apple cider vinegar for dandruff. Put it in a spray bottle to make it easier to apply.
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Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:22 pm      Reply with quote
I had the dandruff problem once before. So did some of my friends.

Try selsun blue shampoo. You can get it at Ulta.com or drugstore.com. It worked like magic for us. One of my friend's dermatologist recommended it when she first had dandruff problem.

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Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:02 am      Reply with quote
skincareaddicted wrote:

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.....Interesting that adding beta glucans into my shampoo has been helping me scalp tremendously and now I find avalon organics does the same.

i don't really recommend rubbing conditioner into your scalp unless it's a conditioner designed to do so or as nyonyakay suggested, if special herbs or other additives are included.

HTH, Kristen

Ohh, now I know why the shampoos have this in there. I looked up beta glucan, but didn't really know why it would be in a hair shampoo.
I love the Avalon organics tea tree shampoo. It's helped with that a lot these last few weeks and my scalp feels better. Also, I've been alternating with the wen cleansing conditioners.

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Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:06 am      Reply with quote
I second using apple cider vinegar for this! I had originally been using it to help maintain my hair color longer and keep it shiney.....I had no idea that it would eliminate drandruff but it did. I massage it into the scalp prior to adding my shampoo and then I'll mix the 2 together, rinse, followed by a great hair mask.
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:47 am      Reply with quote
Just chiming in to third the apple cider vinegar recommendation. My husband used to notice some scalp flakes in the winter. He started rinsing with the vinegar and the problem completely disappeared.
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:43 am      Reply with quote
OK thanks for all the replies, you don't know how much i appreciate all the good information.
Question:
First, for the apple cider vinegar should i mix it with %50 water and %50 apple cider vinegar in a spray type bottle? with no shampoo or shampoo? then how long would you guys estimate for me to live the apple cider vinegar in my hair for? like 2 minutes or like 3 or 4 minutes?


Also the EO blend- can i find those ingredients at like shop rite or stop and shop (Rosemary and Ylang Ylang) or will i have to go to a specific health store
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Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:46 pm      Reply with quote
Compton, I use the dilution you mentioned (50/50). Before my husband started using it, I mixed it right before I used it, usually just in a cup or tumbler. For my husband, though, it proved to be more convenient to pre-mix in a squirt top bottle (e.g., a shampoo bottle). Now I use that as well and really like it because it's easy to get the cider mix right where I want it. (I have thick, curly hair so getting product down into my scalp can be a chore.) For straight or fine hair, I'm guessing a spray bottle would work very well.

Hope this helps!
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