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Private vs Pubic school:DDfinally hitting her ceiling in Uni
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Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:00 pm      Reply with quote
DD is pretty bright and as a consequence didn't have to work too hard in school. No amount of lectures on my part had any effect on her. Her high school grades were ok with a minimum amount of effort, though not spectacular. 31 ACT, 4.43/5 weighted, 3.5/4 GPA, National honor society, Illinois State scholar. Took 5 AP courses, I think she's an AP scholar as well. She pretty well "slummed" throughout high school (supposedly one of toughest public high school in the state).

She chose to go to the University of Toronto in a general major (because she does not know what she wants to do) and now decided she want to get into bus school. She first grade in financial accounting was a D-. Shock She keep telling me the course is not hard and she did work at it but the exam was too long, etc etc. Rolling Eyes

I alway know the sloppy work habits is going to get her sometime. Sad But in light of her grades and her teacher's comments in elementary, middle and high school, I didn't push her as hard as I might have. I worry I am just one of those "pushy parents" who demand too much of their children.

Maybe I should have sent her to a private school. Her bff whose parents sent him to a tough private school have no trouble maintaining his straight A average in a professional major.
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I think the work / study habits depends on individual a lot. My daughter (Senior in HS) studied in public school since 2nd grade. She always finishs her home work first, plans her project ahead of time. Her GPA is very good, a varsity basketball player, and goes out almost every weekend. My son (freshman in HS) studied in public school since 7th grade. Always waits until the last min to do his home work, always "forgot" there's a quiz or test, or forgot to turn in his homework........... His GPA is ok (3.5). I raised my kids the same way but their work / study habits are totally different.

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Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:13 pm      Reply with quote
I have two kids but I can't really compare their habits. Her older brother has Learning Disabilities, only DX at 19 because it was rare and he is "double exceptional" a nice way of saying he has a LDs and a high IQ. His strengths masks his weaknesses so we didn't catch it until he was almost an adult. Sad

Compared to him, school was such a breeze.He has to study so much, well, I made him, and his grades were not as good.

DD never really have to "stretch" herself until now. So she doesn't really know how.
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I got very high grades with little effort in high school. My first 2 years of undergrad were a little more challenging, but I still got solid A's without much stress or hard work. I entered the undergrad Businesss program at the University of Michigan and suddenly I *really* had to work hard and study a lot to maintain decent grades. I think that many BBA programs are very competitive and if they grade on a curve, even more so. It was a hard blow to my confidence when an 85 was only average for the exam so the grade was a B- or C even, due to the distribution of the curve.

I hope your DD hangs in there and does the best she can do.
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Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:50 pm      Reply with quote
I don't think you should regret not sending DD to a private school. I am a teacher who did 3 univ degrees (1 x UWO, and 2 x UBC), and I have seen all kinds come through public school, and I had friends who failed out of private school.

By far, the greatest help is encouragement from the parents at home. I can always tell when parents read to kids in the evenings, take kids to the library to get books out on Saturday, help kids with writing, etc. Those kids are the ones who are always a cut above. All of that breeds a liking of reading, which only leads to success in school. After that, a little tweaking of the work habits, and it's all A+'s after that.

Tell DD to work with study groups in univ. It's a great way to socialise and study at the same time.

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I got very high grades with little effort in high school. My first 2 years of undergrad were a little more challenging, but I still got solid A's without much stress or hard work. I entered the undergrad Businesss program at the University of Michigan and suddenly I *really* had to work hard and study a lot to maintain decent grades. I think that many BBA programs are very competitive and if they grade on a curve, even more so. It was a hard blow to my confidence when an 85 was only average for the exam so the grade was a B- or C even, due to the distribution of the curve.

I hope your DD hangs in there and does the best she can do.


DD's best friend is going for the business faculty at UM. UM just changed their rules so you can go directly into the B-school from high school. I have friends whose kids attended UM and UT and they said UT and UM are similar in their difficulty. UT is very very competitive, one reason could be of the high concentration of Asian students (I am sure they have good study habits, lol) and she attends the downtown campus, which is supposedly the most difficult campus of UT.

I asked her to move to another campus and she refused. I even asked her to transfer to a less competitive college. Her dad said our world is global now and she has to learn to compete against the best. Sigh.

I am afraid she is going to fail. Well, maybe not, her other grades are very good, but she can't get into B-school with crappy grades in accounting 101. Her bus Math grade ain't so hot either. Waaaaaah Crying or Very sad
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Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:31 am      Reply with quote
My sister & I are 15 months apart (I'm older). I always breezed thru school - got very high scores on any standardized test, but just B's & A's gradewise, because I didn't have to study to get decent grades (even in AP classes). My sister, on the other hand, threw up before any standardized test and tended to choke (where they were almost fun to me), but she mostly got straight A's and had all kinds of honors when she graduated. And she knew how to study... We both went to public schools all our life (all over the country too - we moved a lot).

We both went to Georgia Tech (I went a year before her, of course). At Tech one HAS to be able to study. The 2 yrs that we were both there were horrible for me - she was making Dean's list every quarter, while I was barely maintaining a C average. Nothing like being shown up by your little sister Shock

She ended up graduating in 4 yrs, Magna * spam * Laude (last 2 yrs were at U of Mich). I dropped out for a year, went back to a different school, completely changed my major & finished in record time as an honors graduate. Once I got serious about it, I applied myself to studying etc. That said, I have never gone back for any sort of post-graduate work, because I didn't want to put myself through that again. I LOVE learning - but only when it's something I want to know about - not something someone else tells me I need to know!

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