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Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:11 am  |
I just kept eating my big toast from I got up and had eaten up one pound of that. Now I really feel a bit uncomfortable in the stomach, maybe gastrectasia. 
I think it's really a big problem for me. I have too good an appetite, in fact, whenever I had something by hand, especially bread or cake or the like, I would eaten them up. And if nothing by hand, I would kept thinking go and get some. Gluttony...err
I really know it's too bad. But just found difficult to control.  Anyone has good suggestions? Or I think I should go to see a doctor  |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:25 am |
Are you craving for Carb food only such as bread, chips, etc? Or you have appetite for everything?
I am carb fan too..
Couple things you can try:
- Start eating full meals with lots of lean meat + vegetable. That will make you full and satisfied. Thus, you can avoid junk...
- Drink more fluid, water, juice, smoothie so you always feel full ...
- Eat alot till you are bored to it...
story behind:
I used to eat sandwich for two years during college year. I live thrifty by having a loaf of bread of 79 cents and maybe couple sliced of ham 99 cents and cheese costs 1.25 that would last me at least 3 days. It is the cheapest expense back then, but I gained a lot of weight roughly 30 lb.... Now, I hate to even to finish up six inches of subway. But, I still indulge in high quality bread... I am still carb fan but I can control it |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:42 am |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:42 am |
| It's its discomfort that you feel, I've read that it helps to eat til you are "80% full" and then that's it. Of course, consume healthy meals full of good carbs and proteins so that you'll feel full for a longer period of time. Eventually, you'll get used to it. |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:47 am |
ignore katee, exercise makes you more hungry. Amphetamine sulphate is waaaay better!
That is a joke btw |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:07 am |
| If you crave carbs breads sweets etc you might want to get checked for candida...my mom struggled with that and getting a hold of it early is important. |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:22 am |
Grrr, I'm the same way. I love food and can't turn it away if I see a nice spread. If you're doing enough exercise to burn it off or you have a super fast meatbolism then great, you can even things out. If not, good luck to ya. LOL But seriously, just try to control the urges by eating many small meals during the day to curb the cravings and prevent the big binges. And drink lots of water during the day which will help make you feel more full before a meal. It's really helped me out. You'll find that the less you eat, the less you'll begin to crave as your stomach shrinks. The more you feed it, the hungrier it will be so just stay strong!  |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:43 am |
| fishzebby wrote: |
Are you craving for Carb food only such as bread, chips, etc? Or you have appetite for everything?
I am carb fan too..
Couple things you can try:
- Start eating full meals with lots of lean meat + vegetable. That will make you full and satisfied. Thus, you can avoid junk...
- Drink more fluid, water, juice, smoothie so you always feel full ...
- Eat alot till you are bored to it...
story behind:
I used to eat sandwich for two years during college year. I live thrifty by having a loaf of bread of 79 cents and maybe couple sliced of ham 99 cents and cheese costs 1.25 that would last me at least 3 days. It is the cheapest expense back then, but I gained a lot of weight roughly 30 lb.... Now, I hate to even to finish up six inches of subway. But, I still indulge in high quality bread... I am still carb fan but I can control it |
Errr.....I think I'm not craving for everything. I had full meals but I don't like them very much so I often eat "80%", but then begin to eat more bread until maybe "150%"...
I think drinking is a good way 
Eat alot till you are bored to it......I think my boreing line is a bit too high 
Thank you very much for your story~~I am wondering if high quality food would offer more satisfication.  |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:46 am |
| FrevaKZ wrote: |
| It's its discomfort that you feel, I've read that it helps to eat til you are "80% full" and then that's it. Of course, consume healthy meals full of good carbs and proteins so that you'll feel full for a longer period of time. Eventually, you'll get used to it. |
Yeah~~I am quite aware that "80% full" is best. But problem of mine...just I couldn't stop eating after I'm "150%full"or more.... |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:47 am |
| In fact, I'm very lazy>< |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:48 am |
| guapagirl wrote: |
ignore katee, exercise makes you more hungry. Amphetamine sulphate is waaaay better!
That is a joke btw |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:50 am |
| Dahli wrote: |
| If you crave carbs breads sweets etc you might want to get checked for candida...my mom struggled with that and getting a hold of it early is important. |
Errr I think I'm a little confused...What's "Candida", means I should eat them to control?   |
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Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:55 am |
| wildflower wrote: |
| Grrr, I'm the same way. I love food and can't turn it away if I see a nice spread. If you're doing enough exercise to burn it off or you have a super fast meatbolism then great, you can even things out. If not, good luck to ya. LOL But seriously, just try to control the urges by eating many small meals during the day to curb the cravings and prevent the big binges. And drink lots of water during the day which will help make you feel more full before a meal. It's really helped me out. You'll find that the less you eat, the less you'll begin to crave as your stomach shrinks. The more you feed it, the hungrier it will be so just stay strong! |
Yes Yes. I think you're right~ There is some time that I just need a little to eat and feel OK. Maybe at that time my stomach was diminished. But when I begins over-eating, it seems I could and have to eat more and more.
I'll try to drink more water to fill my stomach |
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:48 am |
Well I've always been told the trick is to eat 5 small meals instead of 3 big meals or to keep in mind the only 2 rule i.e. main + dessert or starter + main or a drink + main... I find the eat 5 small meals work best (when I remember to not inhale a big breakfast that is  ) |
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:22 am |
i think eating lots of small meals really helps, i've always been eating various food throughout the day (even at work, i munch on cheese with crackers, dried cranberries, plain biscuits and occassional chocolate treats).
After a while i find my appetite for 'normal' meals decreased significantly, I cant even eat large portions for lunch or dinner anymore and i get full quite easily. It's almost like a matter of getting your body and appetite to get accustomed to it first. And it also stops you from feeling 'I'm REALLY REALLY hungry' and accidentally end up eating loads of junk at once. |
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:35 am |
| sparkle wrote: |
i think eating lots of small meals really helps, i've always been eating various food throughout the day (even at work, i munch on cheese with crackers, dried cranberries, plain biscuits and occassional chocolate treats).
After a while i find my appetite for 'normal' meals decreased significantly, I cant even eat large portions for lunch or dinner anymore and i get full quite easily. It's almost like a matter of getting your body and appetite to get accustomed to it first. And it also stops you from feeling 'I'm REALLY REALLY hungry' and accidentally end up eating loads of junk at once. |
I think I'm just doing this...or sounds very alike.
I didn't have good appetite for "normal" meals, I just craving for Crab food maybe. I kept eating thoughtout the day, didn't stop. I don't feel hungry indeed in most ocations, but this doesn't stop me from eating. The thing it, even the feel of "very full" seems does little help to stop me from eating too.
I think things that I love(and as you mentioned), like chocalate, plain biscuits, dried cranberries may not be so healthy. Instead, what people eat as normal meals would be healthier, at least vegetables are. So I'm always trying to stop eating socks and focus myself on normal meals |
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:39 pm |
Actually I can't control appetite
But I away take a tea  |
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:49 pm |
If the problem is that you like to feel really full before you stop maybe that new CM3 supplement will help. It is made of seaweed or something and fills you up. I guess in the way fiber does but this is different somehow. Oz Garcia imports it from Germany. You can find it on his site http://www.ozgarcia.com/detail.aspx?ID=55
I was thinking of trying it myself. If you have Candida you will crave sugars and carbs and you can keep eating it and still not feel satisfied because you are having to satisfy more than your hunger. Plus the more of it you eat the more craving you have for it. I am pretty sure I have a mild form of it. I can't go through a day without some sugar or refined carb. It is hard to get rid of it. I used to have it worse and spent years taking supplements for it but I just could not stick to the diet. You need to kind of starve it out of your body and that means keep the carbs low for a while. I have gotten to the point where I totally lost my desire for flour products and that was great. I lost a lot of weight during that time. |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:26 am |
| mommydearest wrote: |
If the problem is that you like to feel really full before you stop maybe that new CM3 supplement will help. It is made of seaweed or something and fills you up. I guess in the way fiber does but this is different somehow. Oz Garcia imports it from Germany. You can find it on his site http://www.ozgarcia.com/detail.aspx?ID=55
I was thinking of trying it myself. If you have Candida you will crave sugars and carbs and you can keep eating it and still not feel satisfied because you are having to satisfy more than your hunger. Plus the more of it you eat the more craving you have for it. I am pretty sure I have a mild form of it. I can't go through a day without some sugar or refined carb. It is hard to get rid of it. I used to have it worse and spent years taking supplements for it but I just could not stick to the diet. You need to kind of starve it out of your body and that means keep the carbs low for a while. I have gotten to the point where I totally lost my desire for flour products and that was great. I lost a lot of weight during that time. |
Thank you so much~ Err, as you say, I should starve myself from sugar or crabs, maybe means then I would get used to this and finally have a less crave for them. I think this really would work if one can hold oneself and stick to this. I had tried some time as doing this, I eat really little, almost just vegetables and milk. It lasted one month or so. But after that, I began thinking why should I treat myself as this, life is short I should try to satify myself; or maybe having a little sugar or crabs wouldn't do harm. So you know, I began another round of crabs/sugar gluttony again.
However, I'm very interested in CM3 that you suggested, I would go and have a look at it. I cares most if it would do harm to my body. |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:53 am |
I don't know anything about the CM3 supplement, so I can comment on whether it's safe or not.
But, if you're really concerned about "harming your body," you really have to stop going from one extreme to the other. There are more alternatives than eating everything in sight on the one hand, and deprivation on the other.
You need to come up with some kind of balanced diet that includes LIMITED quantities of foods that you like.
You mentioned that you're lazy. I'll concede that not everyone is a workout freak and you don't necessarily have to adopt the Navy Seal Workout. But the combination of your diet (which sounds pretty awful) and the fact that you don't exercise is a MAJOR contributor to a feeling of slugishness.
You really need to come up with an overall plan of diet and exercise. You'll most definitely look and feel a whole lot better. Like any change in behavior, it WILL require exercising some discipline in the beginning. But, in general, unless someone suffers from some kind of metabolic disorder, if the plan you settle on is actually right for you, you'll be eating healthy food that you enjoy, you'll look better, and you'll feel better. Sort of makes it easy to stick with it.
Bottom line: there isn't a supplement on earth that will serve as a magic bullet. There are things that can help a little, but solving the problem - not likely! |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:23 am |
| Ok not to be mean, but is this a real question? Because if it is, you don't need a medical Dr., you truely need a head Dr. If your eating fine, till bread comes along, then you gourge yourself till it hurts, this isn't about lack of vitamins! |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:35 am |
I cut out dessert and sugar like that back in January. While I've not been perfect in that area, I can literally count the number of times I've had dessert on one hand since then.
I opt for sugar free stuff when I go out. While I've not cut out sugar completely, it was super hard.
That first week I craved sugar like mad. Even if I choose to break it and have something, the next 24 hours I'll crave it.
My best advice is to cut out what's causing you problems. If I drink too much, I need to cut out alcohol. If I eat way too much chocolate, I need to cut out chocolate. Sometimes cutting it out completely at first is the best thing to do, then try to add a little later on (a month isn't long enough). It's hard, but it might be the only way.
Like Katee said...a pill/supplement isn't going to fix it. It's going to take work on your part...but it will be worth it when you succeed! |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:03 pm |
| just eat chutty when you want to eat something! |
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:22 pm |
I saw Dr. Gullo for a while and one of the secrets to his approach is to get the stuff out of the house. I have a hard time with it because I have a kid but if you don't then just make sure the trigger foods are gone. I found it much less tempting to eat this stuff when it was just my husband and I.
I agree that eating until you are overstuffed is more of a psychological issue. It talkes 1/2 hr after you eat anyway to really feel how much you have eaten. You are supposed to eat unit you no longer feel hungry physically and just satisfied. It is not your last meal. This way you actually end up eating more frequently throught the day. Save things for the next meal. Also good idea to eat the carbs earlier in the day.
This is actually why Gullo succeeds because he is more than a diet doctor, he deals with psychological stuff foo. You could be trying to fill yourself with food to compensate for other emptiness. You are not the only one - many of us do this to some extent sometimes.
I think the exercise thing is crucial. It does not have to be sweating bullets on the ground and it can be something you find fun. I love classes and if you see the same people every week it can motivate you to go. Just get moving more and on a regular basis. Also wearing headphones and listening music you love is great. You can do that and go out for a fast walk and not even realize you have been working out. It effects your brain and sense of well being. Then you will feel better about yourself and want to do good things for body and take more control. One thing leads to another. I think the working out is much easier than dieting. Diets usually fail. They really do. It is the whole "don't think about pink elephant" idea. What will you think about? Many people are rebellious and if they are told they "can't have something" they will binge on it. Get out and move that body. Make it short. Just 30 minutes every day or most days ouf of the week. That is so short and getting there and starting is the hardest part. Once you break the initial resitance to start up then it is easy. Think of it as food. Filling you up. It will also speed up your metabolism so whenever you do give yourself a bread or cookie treat it won't show. No one ever said we can't ever have these things again for the rest of our lives. But when things are in more balance you can have it once in a while and that is enough and you don't need to binge on it. |
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