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Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:35 pm      Reply with quote
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ok great I will get the pills and the Vitamin C for the skin. Do you know where I can buy vitamin C serum/Liquid and when do I apply it?

Now I do want to save the 1.5 for intense rolls. Maybe once every 2 weeks. So therefore you are saying use the .25mm in between the intense rolls?


Here is a thread on Vit C that should have some sources for you. You will apply it once a day, or at least every other day for at least 3 weeks after you stop rolling.



You can use the .25mm in between longer needle rolls, but more gently...you only need to puncture the skin for it to be effective.


Do I have to use CP's as well? I hear alot of people talk about this but then again I also read that Vitamin A & C are enough. I just want to use whats best for my stretchmarks w/o using tons of creams.


Why not skip CPs for the moment...once you use up your other stuff, you can try CP's if you haven't seen enough improvement yet.

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I'm taking the conservative route. I have a .25mm and a 1.5mm. Reading chinachatters' tale scared me a little! I'm doing the 1.5mm on its own every fortnight, (3 more to go with the 1.5mm as I felt I wasn't very thorough before I bought pain relief!). I'll do the .25mm once a week thereafter.

My skin still gets upset using the .25mm, inflamed and red, stinging, some blood spots, though I don't have the pain that I soothe with Benzocaine after a 1.5mm session! If I didn't put it on I wouldn't get any sleep! Surprised


Isn't it amazing how some of us get such strong reactions with the short needles? I'm glad to know that I am not the only one!

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:54 pm      Reply with quote
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I always use Retin A 2-3x a week, on my face when rolling.

I decided to use the .15mm baby roller 3x a week, and applied the Retin-A after I rolled each time. However, I underestimated the impact of increasing the rolling/Retin-A combo to more than once a week, and ended up having a VERY bad reaction (extreme redness, histamine bumps, itching, etc.). Embarassed

Based on how bad I look today 3 days after I last rolled), I anticipate that it will take closer to 2 weeks before I am back to normal again. Sad


Wow! Thanks for the head's up on the RetinA/roller combo, bethany. I might have done just that.

I actually recieved my Dr. Roller 1.5 in the mail today! (Took forever, tho)

I think I still need to order some topical numbing agent - what one is good?

I may or may/not wait til that comes in to try the roller, but I don't think I'll try tonight. Wink

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:13 pm      Reply with quote
I want to try to numbing cream too but Im wondering If I can take the pain w/o it Laughing
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I always use Retin A 2-3x a week, on my face when rolling.

I decided to use the .15mm baby roller 3x a week, and applied the Retin-A after I rolled each time. However, I underestimated the impact of increasing the rolling/Retin-A combo to more than once a week, and ended up having a VERY bad reaction (extreme redness, histamine bumps, itching, etc.). Embarassed

Based on how bad I look today 3 days after I last rolled), I anticipate that it will take closer to 2 weeks before I am back to normal again. Sad


Wow! Thanks for the head's up on the RetinA/roller combo, bethany. I might have done just that.

I actually recieved my Dr. Roller 1.5 in the mail today! (Took forever, tho)

I think I still need to order some topical numbing agent - what one is good?

I may or may/not wait til that comes in to try the roller, but I don't think I'll try tonight. Wink


Foxe, many people can roll and then apply Retin-A...I just don't happen to be one of them!

Where did you buy your roller that such such a long time to ship?

Regarding numbing agents...I tried a product called Super T, and found it to be messy and lumpy, plus I had a reaction to one of the ingredients. Confused The best one I have found thus far is the 10% lidocaine "Climax Spray" from alldaychemist.

However, if you do not have sensitive skin, the Bactine Pain Relieving Cleansing Spray may be good enough....it is also good for disinfecting before and after a roll.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:14 am      Reply with quote
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Foxe, many people can roll and then apply Retin-A...I just don't happen to be one of them!

Where did you buy your roller that such such a long time to ship?


I got mine from the link suggested in the 'Discounted DermaRoller' thread - it's from EU and Kaia said it would take 10 days (took about 13). mailto:kaia@dr-roller.eu

[/quote] Regarding numbing agents...I tried a product called Super T, and found it to be messy and lumpy, plus I had a reaction to one of the ingredients. Confused The best one I have found thus far is the 10% lidocaine "Climax Spray" from alldaychemist.

However, if you do not have sensitive skin, the Bactine Pain Relieving Cleansing Spray may be good enough....it is also good for disinfecting before and after a roll.[/quote]

Your numbing agent isn't the one I would like to try. There's another one out there that's been mentioned. Does anyone else have a clue?

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Never mind about the numbing gel - I found the answer myself. Wow! did I get lucky on that one. Found it on pg 22 (2nd page I searched)

Scottlass has a good post about Tridocaine Gel that she got from Canadian Drug Superstore. You dont have to cover it w/ saran wrap like the Elma, nor have to wait an hour like the Elma either (wait time of 15 mins). I worry about my oily skin - so not sure I even want to try any of these numbing agents.

Think I might try the ice first, but still (in the back of my mind) would like to order this stuff so I can do a better job (little bit of a wimp here Embarassed )

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:58 am      Reply with quote
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Think I might try the ice first, but still (in the back of my mind) would like to order this stuff so I can do a better job (little bit of a wimp here Embarassed )


You are absolutely correct about being able to do a better job if you are numb!!

The more intense your roll is, the better results you will see down the road. I look at that as smart vs. wimpy. Smile

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:23 am      Reply with quote
If you use a numbing gel...is there a chance you might go too hard???
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Does anyone have the brown plastic dermarollers? I seen these on ebay for very cheap and wonder if they work as good. The seller giftstoyourdoor claims it is a good dermaroller compared to the Dr. Roller and the price. The .25 is only $19.95 and the 1.5 is $44.95. Anyone think I should give it a try?
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If you use a numbing gel...is there a chance you might go too hard???


I think one does have to use common sense...we are rolling our skin vs. resurfacing a road! Very Happy

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Does anyone have the brown plastic dermarollers? I seen these on ebay for very cheap and wonder if they work as good. The seller giftstoyourdoor claims it is a good dermaroller compared to the Dr. Roller and the price. The .25 is only $19.95 and the 1.5 is $44.95. Anyone think I should give it a try?


I have heard a couple of people say that they received sub par rollers from some ebay sellers...the needles were not all the same length, some needles were bent, etc.

Just be sure that you look at the feedback before buying, and closely inspect any roller before using.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:45 pm      Reply with quote
I used my .5 mm last night and I really noticed today that my skin looked bad. Very wrinkly looking. I was going to use the .5 about twice a week just for product penetration, but after seeing my skin today, I think I need to use is way less frequently. This is curious because when I was doing the weekly 1 mm rolls, I never had this wrinkly looking skin after the roll.
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I used my .5 mm last night and I really noticed today that my skin looked bad. Very wrinkly looking. I was going to use the .5 about twice a week just for product penetration, but after seeing my skin today, I think I need to use is way less frequently. This is curious because when I was doing the weekly 1 mm rolls, I never had this wrinkly looking skin after the roll.


I think it comes down to the level of inflammation...the more trauma, the more taught my skin looks the next day. But when the inflammation starts receeding, my skin looks a little wrinkled and loose...exactly how my hands look at the moment! Confused

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Bethany, how long do your hands look wrinkled for? Do you wait until they look "normal" before you roll again? I am thinking of just doing a light roll every 7-10 days, instead of twice a week.
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Bethany, how long do your hands look wrinkled for? Do you wait until they look "normal" before you roll again? I am thinking of just doing a light roll every 7-10 days, instead of twice a week.


When I was using the .5mm amd 1.0mm on my hands, they would look wrinkled for up to 3 weeks later. Shock However, they would look good for the first week due to the increased inflammation.

I just did a .15mm roll followed by Retin-A on my hands on 8/2, and they looked fine up until today (8/7)....now they are looking wrinkly again, and I anticipate it will last at least another week. Then the micro-inflammation will completely subside and it will all tighten back up again. Rolling Eyes

At this point, I am not planning on rolling any more frequently than every 2-3 weeks, no matter what size the needles are.

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Does anyone know if these are good for tightning the under eye area and dark circles?
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Has anyone ordered from dermaroller . us? Are they plastic or metal. I see 2 different colors/styles on there website and wondering what the differnce is.
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Thanks, Bethany. Interesting that your skin looks good afterwards and the wrinkly look doesn't hit you for around 5ish days. I never really had that reaction until this time. Maybe it has taken this long to start doing something for me. But, I had the wrinkly look the next day, so I am not sure. Today, my skin does not look quite as wrinkly, but it does not look "normal" yet. I have also noticed today that I am having some flaking going on above my upper lip.
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Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:50 pm      Reply with quote
Thychecutie - I have ordered from Dermarollers.us and these are of good quality, however, the same product is offered by ebay seller ***auctionx*** . I have purchased from him and from Jack, who sells the Dr. Roller. I'm happy with both, but like the Dr. Roller best.

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just did my first treatment and its 5 days later w/1.5. I don't see much difference. Does anyone have good experiences on the belly area for stretch marks and skin tightening..how many treatments and how far apart.?
i'd appreciate any experiences. thanks
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just did my first treatment and its 5 days later w/1.5. I don't see much difference. Does anyone have good experiences on the belly area for stretch marks and skin tightening..how many treatments and how far apart.?
i'd appreciate any experiences. thanks


Kimber, NO treatment will show improvement in 5 days, including the dermaroller. As the articles I shared explain, it takes at least 6 months for skin to remodel.

This is a multi step process...you have to break up the scar tissue bundles with the roller, and begin the wound healing cascade that sets the new collagen development in motion. Then the collagen starts to develop, and takes 8-12 months to mature.

Start reading on page 34 of this thread and you will see Catski's comments about using the roller on her stretchmarks and the process she used.

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Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:25 am      Reply with quote
Is there anything you can buy in walmart or something that can help with numbness. It seems like numbing creams are expensive and Im going to be doing large areas of my body
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Girls,

This topic becomes monstrous Shock . I'm trying to read it from the beginning to the end, but then I forget why I started to read it at all. Laughing
So, forgive me , if you already discussed it (I think you did, just want your confirmation).
Can I use Baby Q after DermaRoller? What actives are good after rolling. As I wrote in another post - after Dermaroller plus Retin A my skin became crazy. I wanna to avoid it (it's not Halloween yet to scare people Razz )

TIA

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Hi, I use the 1.5mm roller. The day after a roll, my skin, face and hands, is plump. But, in 3-5 days, I'm all wrinkly, especially my hands. Crying or Very sad

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