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Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:09 am      Reply with quote
This thread is 2 yrs old, since then the price of the rollers have come down. Does anyone know which dermaroller is the best for home use for acne scars and wrinkles? Is the dr roller any good and dont you need steel needles for it to be effective?The before and after pics are stunning, however has anyone addressed the fact that the improvement may be temporary and due to swelling on the skin disquising and filling in the scar?
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Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:03 pm      Reply with quote
go to ebay type z mart derma roller a chinses store. I buy mine for $9.99...And it works
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:56 am      Reply with quote
Hello! I am new to EDS and new to this thread on dermarolling but I must have spent hours reading this... just ordered one off Ebay and I am so excited to use it! I am wondering if it might work with the following:

-atrophic scar from stitches done a decade ago
- atrophic "dent" from too much cortisone injected
- chicken pox mark from 2 decades ago

I plan on using it with Copper Peptides, Vitamin C serum, and Epiduo. Any help would be appreciated. =)
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:49 pm      Reply with quote
None of us are doctors here. Only way you will find out is, if you do a roll yourself. I know you can't do a roll on a keloid scar.
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:25 pm      Reply with quote
Hi! I have been trying to read through this thread and it is me taking forever. Meanwhile, I have ordered a 1. mm and a .25 mm. I have some questions that I can't seem to find the answers to.

With the .25 for product penetration, when do I apply the product? Do I apply it before or after? Can I use it with either Retinol or Vitamin C? Also, will I bleed with a 1.mm and what is the typical recovery time with a 1.mm? I'm sorry. I know these questions have to be on here somewhere but 149 pages is a lot to weed through.
Thank you for your help.

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Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:23 pm      Reply with quote
With the short needled rollers, I apply the product beforehand per istructions found online.

Some people will bleed with a 1mm and some won't. Whenever I've used the 1mm, my recovery time is short - basically 24 hours and you can cover your skin with makeup anyway.

I'd like to strongly suggest something. This long hread is helpful, but not nearly as helpful as the many articles you can find online. They contain current and detailed instructions and information. See the dermarolling thread at the top of the forum for updated information and links to *current* articles. . That is your best bet for guidance.

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Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:37 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you Barefootgirl. The articles you mentioned answered my questions and gave me a lot more information. I'm still reading and probably will be for a while. There is such a wealth of information out there. I just didn't know where to start. Thanks again.

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Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:28 am      Reply with quote
I' still going through pages of this thread, but can someone tell me if it's okey to roll at my age (I'm 31)? Is anyone my age rolling their face?

And also what size of needles should I used for collagen production under my eyes? I've read somewhere someone said that they used 1.5 size needles but I'm afraid that I will damage my eyes and go blind, if that's even possible.

I ordered 1.5 and .5 size of needles.

THanks.
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Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:52 am      Reply with quote
What exactly is a derma roller and what does it do?
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kory82202 wrote:
What exactly is a derma roller and what does it do?


http://www.dawndpm.com/files/dermaroller1.pdf
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:52 pm      Reply with quote
I'm not sure if I should have started a new thread over this question. I am the vein queen. They are popping out everywhere, and my skin is so thin. I would like to roll my hands with a .5 (I have veins popping out) and some areas on my arms with a 1 or 1.5mm (I have veins popping out there, too). Has anyone dealt with this before? I don't want to puncture a vein. Thanks.
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Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:59 pm      Reply with quote
Breezy, this is my issue too. I want to roll the crooks of my arms, where I have developed very crepey (and creepy Wink) skin. However, I have a giant vein there...great for giving blood but not what I would like to see pierced by a dermaroller. It is hard to "travel" round them too. I guess you could take that white medical tape and carefully cover the veins with this if you don't have too many.You would still have to avoid it though as it could adhere to the roller.

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Hi everyone, Do you think I could use the 3 line roller to do the whole face? Would it be inefficient or just take extra time? Thank you.
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Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:38 am      Reply with quote
This is just a thought about the vein popping when rolling...if you put your hand/arm upright, the veins drain and are flat...at least mine are...if you roll with your hands in this position, would the small needles have a harder time trying to puncture the vein and if they did maybe the hole in the vein would close too quickly to let blood escape.

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Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:11 am      Reply with quote
MaryClaire wrote:
This is just a thought about the vein popping when rolling...if you put your hand/arm upright, the veins drain and are flat...at least mine are...if you roll with your hands in this position, would the small needles have a harder time trying to puncture the vein and if they did maybe the hole in the vein would close too quickly to let blood escape.

Mary

Thanks! That's a good thought. Most of mine flatten, but a few still pop out (I look like a body builder Sad ). I think I will try your suggestion when I do that area. I am working on my legs, stomach and face, and then I will tackle the arms and hands.
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olelala wrote:
Hello! I am new to EDS and new to this thread on dermarolling but I must have spent hours reading this... just ordered one off Ebay and I am so excited to use it! I am wondering if it might work with the following:

-atrophic scar from stitches done a decade ago
- atrophic "dent" from too much cortisone injected
- chicken pox mark from 2 decades ago

I plan on using it with Copper Peptides, Vitamin C serum, and Epiduo. Any help would be appreciated. =)

Yes, it will definitely help an atrophic dent from a cortisone shot. I rolled mine and it was plumped back up in 5-6 wks. It was a while back and I posted about this somewhere in this enormous thread but i wouldn't know what page its on and I don't remember how often I did rolled. You might do a search on my name: mountaingirl ...and look through my postings.

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Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:22 am      Reply with quote
packratmack wrote:
Hi everyone, Do you think I could use the 3 line roller to do the whole face? Would it be inefficient or just take extra time? Thank you.


I would not use a 3 line roller for the whole face. Yes, its inefficient.

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angel06 wrote:
I' still going through pages of this thread, but can someone tell me if it's okey to roll at my age (I'm 31)? Is anyone my age rolling their face?

And also what size of needles should I used for collagen production under my eyes? I've read somewhere someone said that they used 1.5 size needles but I'm afraid that I will damage my eyes and go blind, if that's even possible.

I ordered 1.5 and .5 size of needles.

THanks.


OUCH! Not the 1.5 under the eyes. I would gently try the .5 but even tho' I've rolled MUCHO times, I never went right under the eye!

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Tonia wrote:
Hi! I have been trying to read through this thread and it is me taking forever. Meanwhile, I have ordered a 1. mm and a .25 mm. I have some questions that I can't seem to find the answers to.

With the .25 for product penetration, when do I apply the product? Do I apply it before or after? Can I use it with either Retinol or Vitamin C? Also, will I bleed with a 1.mm and what is the typical recovery time with a 1.mm? I'm sorry. I know these questions have to be on here somewhere but 149 pages is a lot to weed through.
Thank you for your help.


You apply the product afterwards. Vit C will sting, and I wait until the next day for that. Retin A might be preferable right after the roll. You can bleed with a 1mm if you press hard, but I think you get more bang from your buck with a 1.5mm. Using your 1mm, if you do a hard roll, you will be a bit red and splotchy the next day, but within 48 hrs, it should be gone. Everyone's skin is different, but that has been my experience.

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Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:40 am      Reply with quote
I thought I read this once - in fact I went out and bought aloe.

After I roll with my 2.0 I use aloe... from CVS (it says its pure 100%)

It doesnt bother my skin - i just want to make sure it IS ok to use.

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Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:01 pm      Reply with quote
Hi Mountaingirl! Thank you for your reply. I haven't tried the 1.mm yet because I got serious acne after the .25mm roll. I'm not sure why my skin reacted so badly. I never get breakouts like that. It's been almost a month since the two rolls and I still have a terrible case of the uglies. I want to try it at least one more time just to make sure it was the roll and not something else.

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Has anybody experienced post inflammatory hyperpigmentation from dermarolling? I've been putting it off for fear of having a face full of hyperpigmented dots from the needles.
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Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:33 pm      Reply with quote
No, but I have tiny red dots all over my face for a couple of days that I have to cover with makeup.

After the dots clear, my regular complexion returns.

It sure would be great to get some feedback from long term rollers. I have only been rolling for 4-5 mos, so too soon to tell.

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Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:32 pm      Reply with quote
I got some information on the Environ roller (the cosmetic one). Thought I would share in case anyone was interested.

There are 108 needles 18 row x 6 needles per row
The needles protrude 0.2mm. The needles are solid steel and are 0.3mm in length with a tapered point so that the section that goes into the skin is about 0.15 in diameter.
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re-posting for CharL

CharL wrote:
Hi everyone, i am new to the board. i have horrible pigmentation marks on my face and have started using Danne beta gel and direct delivery vitamin c and also Meladerm cream about 4-6 weeks ago and i am starting to see results. my beauty therapist is suggesting that i use the dermaroller to also help fade away the pigmentation marks. does anyone have any advice on this, will it work? I know this post is for stretch mark removal, but i hope i can get some answers. Thank you!
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