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Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:46 am      Reply with quote
Miracally,

Thank you for sharing your story here. It helps us to hear all viewpoints. It's hard to tell whether the problem was caused by the length of the needle, the before & aftercare protocol or prolonged inflammation? or maybe all three?

I am also surprised by the comments about Dr. Fernandes. Like rileygirl, my exchanges with him have all been helpful and he is not "promotional" at all with me.

It is important to understand the implications of inflammation in the skin - both short term and long term. We have threads here that discuss that. As well, you can contact Dr. Thornfeldt's aesthetician (Krista Bourne, I think her name is) for questions regarding inflammation. He is located in Idaho and has a website for further details.

Do you mind sharing the name of the person who performed the procedure on you?

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Bethany thanks for all your research and the links - I've got some reading to do Very Happy

Since I usually roll in the a.m. I think the glass of wine suggestion is out of the question - I'd be pie-eyed by lunchtime Laughing


How I can buy directly from "backstrecords" ? Does anyone have contact phone , email or store webpage ? Please provide.
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How I can buy directly from "backstrecords" ? Does anyone have contact phone , email or store webpage ? Please provide.



Maybe this will help:

bethany wrote:
Try his email address: backstrecords2@yahoo.com
http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewthread.php?p=548695#548695
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:43 pm      Reply with quote
Wow, Miracally what a nightmare!

Would you be willing to share photos?

This makes me more reluctant to try my 1.5mm dermaroller.

I would suggest that anyone dermarolling take EFAs
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Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:02 am      Reply with quote
Coconut - Miracally's procedure was with a 3mm roller. Your 1.5 is nowhere near that length. And, you can control the pressure. (Still, it's understandable to be reluctant!)

What would the EFAs be beneficial for with rolling?

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Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:21 pm      Reply with quote
l'm thinking the doctor pressure has been so heavy, l've also notice that he used general anesthesia! l'm wondering wich kind of roller was that roller... l do not know... l've roller my face with mm 2 , without feel any pain, with out use emla cream... maybe he use a very strong pressure so that the trauma has been very deep...
l'm not a doctor , but l do know that hyperbaric therapy is very helpful in inflammation situation , sometimes it is used after plastic surgery too
ask for a god hyperbaric centre near your town!
take lipoic acid and omega... l'm really very sorry for what happened to you, but you'll work out, l'm sure about this, and this is my wish for you

sorry for my english
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Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:36 am      Reply with quote
I was looking for more info on dermarolling spider veins and I found this on the NOVA Clinic site under their Q&A.

Q. Can the derma roller be used on veins and broken blood vessels or spider veins?
A. Yes you can use the derma roller on veins close on the surface of face and body - Derma rolling helps to break up larger blood vessels. A derma or skin roller is like a rolling pin to which many, tiny, thin, acupuncture-like needles are attached, can be used to crisscross the dilated blood vessels. Disrupting them like this promotes their disappearance. Healing is usually complete in a few days and treatments may be repeated at monthly intervals as needed.


It does seem like if you broke up the veins they would go away much like sclerotherapy. I'm concerned that it also might cause more spider veins. Anyone have any experience rolling spider veins?
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Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:56 pm      Reply with quote
MaryClaire wrote:
I was looking for more info on dermarolling spider veins and I found this on the NOVA Clinic site under their Q&A.

Q. Can the derma roller be used on veins and broken blood vessels or spider veins?
A. Yes you can use the derma roller on veins close on the surface of face and body - Derma rolling helps to break up larger blood vessels. A derma or skin roller is like a rolling pin to which many, tiny, thin, acupuncture-like needles are attached, can be used to crisscross the dilated blood vessels. Disrupting them like this promotes their disappearance. Healing is usually complete in a few days and treatments may be repeated at monthly intervals as needed.


It does seem like if you broke up the veins they would go away much like sclerotherapy. I'm concerned that it also might cause more spider veins. Anyone have any experience rolling spider veins?


DO NOT roll your face if you are prone to getting spider veins. I'm 27, and I made that mistake. It definitely made the condition worse. I used a 1.5 mm roller after doing a lot of research on dermarolling; a lot of articles I read claimed it actually improved the condition by disrupting the veins. Yea, it does disrupt the veins, so much so that they worsen or new ones form. I wasn't even agressive with using the roller. I applied enough pressure for the needles to go into my skin; not enough to draw a lot of blood. In fact, I didn't draw much blood at all; a few pin pricks here and there.

Unfortunately, a few veins formed on my cheek, which is an area that I've never had spider veins before. It took about a week for the damage to show. I do have a spider vein issue on my face, but not on my cheeks. It's very upsetting to me. SIMPLY DO NOT ROLL YOUR FACE! Needle scars individually, if you are trying to tackle scars. Also, check out skinbiology's products by Dr. Pickart. I've been using the products for a couple of months now, and they do work. My face is more plump, and skin is generally more even toned, except for what the rolling did to my skin. UGH! I hope, via diligent application of SRCPs, that the damage the roller caused will heal with time.

Hope this helps,
sanguine

P.S. Please disseminate my response wherever it's appropriate to, to save people from damaging their face.
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wow this thread has very many pages! I just got my new 1.5 Dr. Roller in the mail and am planning on using it soon for my cellulite on my butt and thighs. The pamphlet that the Dr. Roller came with didn't provide me with step by step procedures on how I should use the Dr. Roller on butt/thigh cellulite and how often and how much pressure... I am planning on reading through this whole thread but it will take me months before I get through it all since I'm busy at work

Can anyone give me recomendations as to how much pressure to apply, how many rolls should I do on cellulite, should I apply anything on after the treatment such as Retin A or Vit C (to absorb into the open skin)

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Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:46 am      Reply with quote
Hi everyone,

First of all, what a terrible experiences Miracally and sanguine! Thank you so much for sharing them with us and I very much hope that your skin conditions will improve. I have tried derma rolling twice but your posts will make me very cautious about trying ANY other new cosmetic interventions or blindly trusting the so called industry “specialists”. After all every skin can react differently plus there is always so much unexplored – especially at the beginning. In Miracally’s experience the use of 3mm needles is just criminal! I have had my derma rolling done by a nurse in a beauty clinic and she used 1mm roller. We even had a discussion at the beginning to determine whether to use 1mm or 1.5 mm needles. I was a little scared and since it was my first time we settled on 1mm. I didn’t have much bleeding but my face was red and looked like I had sunburn for about two days. I don’t remember seeing much else just a little bit of peeling but everything was back to normal in 5 days. In terms of improvement of my skin – I didn’t really see any amazing results. I thought that it’s because the procedure needs to be repeated several times. The second time I did derma rolling was probably about 3 months after the first experience but the reaction was much more dramatic. It was a different nurse and she used 1.5 mm needles and on the top of that applied more pressure. My face was bleeding a little and was red for longer. After that my skin felt like a sand paper for a week, that’s how much it was peeling! I was really worried that it’s scaring so I bought Bio Oil and kept applying oil all the time. After about ten days my skin was back to normal – no scars, no more peeling but again I don’t remember any amazing results...I was just relieved that my skin was normal again!
Maybe I am a little too scared and panic but at the end of the day things happen and everyone’s skin can react differently. As for the future, I am not completely against it but I would only use 0.5 mm or 1mm needles and don’t put too much pressure.
Somebody asked whether to apply some special products after wards. Yes, you have to be very careful what creams etc. you use on such highly irritated and sensitised skin and rule number one – stay off the sun!!
I think that if I do it in the future I would only use the home kit with short needles, no pressure and apply vitamin serums afterwards to deliver more nutrients to the skin.

Sorry for my loooong note – I’m just a bit obsessive and want to be precise in my recount of the experience 

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Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:50 am      Reply with quote
A ringing endorsement from the Huffington Post, my apologies if this has been posted previously:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/suzanne-aaronson/whats-worth-it-environ-sk_b_489299.html

Now, if I could only find a local Ionzyme DF machine/esthetician Sad

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Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:35 am      Reply with quote
@BCgirl

May I ask where you ordered your Dr. Roller from? If you can't publish it openly you could send it to my in a private message. How much did it cost you?

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@BCgirl

May I ask where you ordered your Dr. Roller from? If you can't publish it openly you could send it to my in a private message. How much did it cost you?

Good luck


I ordered it from amazon.com

It was about $76 US

haven't used it yet, but planning on today

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Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:13 am      Reply with quote
Hi girls, I'm new here! Smile
I have a question for you all about the dermaroller ( and please excuse my english because it is not my first language Confused )

Ok...I bought a dermaroller 3 weeks ago ( 0,5mm ) and I've been using it 5 days a week since, with a good moisturising cream.
Now I'm a bit scared because it has made my NL-smile lines look worse! Confused ( well, one of them in particular is definitely worse than EVER! ) Is it normal? Can it make things worse before it gets better?
Please, answer me!
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Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:52 pm      Reply with quote
I just wanted to pop in and share my dermarolling experiences, which have been extremely positive. I started dermarolling after reading this thread about 2 years ago, and I am so grateful to all the posters who gave such thorough information.

I've been rolling my whole face and neck area with a 1mm and the eye area/deep wrinkles with a 1.5. I use a 3 mm on the thighs and buttocks. (I did it once on my face, too, though that is pretty risky and I wouldn't advocate it for anyone else.)

All in all, I have had amazing results. My wrinkles are greatly diminished, my skin is tighter, and it really does seem to help with cellulite and stretch marks.

I don't roll with any actives, but I do put them on after rolling (copper peptides in particular. )
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The results aren't immediate, but over time and with regular rolling (about every 6 weeks on the face at first, now about every 3 months or so) I have seen a definite improvement. Like pretty much everyone else here, I also do other things to my skin, but I am pretty sure the dermaroller is the thing that has made the most difference.

I went into my dermatologist's office recently, after not having been there for over a year, and the receptionist said "Oh wow, your skin looks fantastic! What did you have done to it?"

I'm so sorry to hear about people who have had bad experiences with dermarolling -- all this DIY stuff is risky (but so is having procedures done professionally, for what its worth) -- I hope you folks find a method that works to correct any damage you've sustained.
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Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:15 pm      Reply with quote
Hello Miracally
Castor oil is a great oil to dissolve scar tissue, I have some very successful experience with it. People even use castor oil to treat adhesions made deep inside the body (known as internal scars)due to surgeries, apparently castor oil can penetrate very deep. Also, it only dissolves the bad collagen/scar tissue and is very life giving to the healthy skin. Pls don't ingets it but massage on teh skin.You can buy cold pressed castor oil, I got it from swansonvitamins. It is a very thick oil butwill absorb almost completely aftre you massage it for a while. I am sure you are overwhelmed with diffrent treatment options & suggestion but pls do give castor oil a chance, you should start seeing improvements within a week or so; I really hope it works for you. Also pls do your own reserach if you decide to give castor oil a shot, I dont want to be blamed if anything goes wrong, just a disclamier I guess!
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Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:32 pm      Reply with quote
I would like to second Daler's sentiments about castor oil .. it is great stuff! A friend of mine recommended it to me last year when I was suffering from a nightmare acne outbreak (I am talking huge, weeping sores) -- nothing was helping it.

I was willing to try anything at that point, and lo and behold, it cleared it right up! I was totally amazed. (Be aware, though, it seems to actually cause some people to break out, so this is seems to vary individually.)

I have never tried it on scars, but I think I will... I know it has worked for a lot of people. I have some scarring from a couple of piercings that healed badly, and I think I will try it on that.

I have had great results with TCA peels for scarring, though, in the past. Done correctly, that works wonders on me.
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Have any of you guys tried dermastamping instead of dermarolling?
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BCgirl wrote:
wow this thread has very many pages! I just got my new 1.5 Dr. Roller in the mail and am planning on using it soon for my cellulite on my butt and thighs. The pamphlet that the Dr. Roller came with didn't provide me with step by step procedures on how I should use the Dr. Roller on butt/thigh cellulite and how often and how much pressure... I am planning on reading through this whole thread but it will take me months before I get through it all since I'm busy at work

Can anyone give me recomendations as to how much pressure to apply, how many rolls should I do on cellulite, should I apply anything on after the treatment such as Retin A or Vit C (to absorb into the open skin)


Good choice with the Dr. Rollers! I now own 4 of them and after 5 months they are still pretty sharp.

About how often, you will hear different opinions. Usually they say once every 4-6 weeks but I think depending on how your skin responds, you can usually get away with once every 3 weeks.

How much pressure: don't worry about applying too much pressure. You cannot get the needles deeper than their lengths. If you roll a 1.5 mm , even VERY hard, they won't go beyond those 1.5 mm no matter what you do. Use Emla - it will allow you to apply more pressure without feeling much pain.

Good luck!

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Hey everyone! I am new here and have a couple of questions for those of you who single needle and use the dermaroller.

I have somewhat thin skin on my abdomen, which is the area I would like to treat. I have two visible veins in that area. Now they do not stick out or anything like varicose veins, and do not appear to be spider veins.

I was just curious if any of you have single needled/dermarolled over surface veins/veins.


Thank you so much for any advice.
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Hi, everyone! I have rolled several times over the last year and am getting good results. My skin is smoother and firmer than it was a year ago. The dark patches have lightened as well. I'm sure some of this is due to rolling but some of it can be attributed to retin a and CP's.

I did a roll with my 1mm last night and it didn't hurt as bad as it has before. I think my skin has thickened. It's time for me to replace it anyway, so I am considering moving up to a 1.5mm. Has anyone used both? Is there a big "ouch" difference?

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I had three treatments of dermaroller for full face, each a month apart, and pleaasse dont waste your money, I could see no difference at all, in fact my skin appeared to be worse.!! Crying or Very sad

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I had three treatments of dermaroller for full face, each a month apart, and pleaasse dont waste your money, I could see no difference at all, in fact my skin appeared to be worse.!! Crying or Very sad


What did you try to treat exactly?

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Hello,
I have a question about dermaroller: if it is used for the wrinkles, after the wrinkles are reduced, should be the dermaroller used regullary ? are the wrinkles 'cured' or its will became like at the begging (before use the dermaroller) ?
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