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Thu May 11, 2017 2:53 am      Reply with quote

Does any of you dermaroll for a tightening effect?
I have jowls that I really want to get rid of. I do facial exercise but they are still there! Smile
I was wondering if there is a t*i*g*h*t*e*n*i*n*g serum to use with the needeling?

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Deep wrinkles like crows' feet, the cause is in the muscles, not the skin. They're not traces of repeated creasing, they're a current event. The muscle is pulling the skin into creases. If you stop it doing that, the wrinkles disappear.

You can 'soften their appearance' with skin treatments but to eradicate them you need to address the muscle. This is why Botox works. Wrinkles from sun damage are responsive to dermaroller but proper facial exercise will gradually flatten and reshape the muscle, so that the skin lies flat on top of it. Ummm my programme Ageless tackles them in 2 minutes per week.

Acne scars, sun damage and other skin issues are greatly helped by dermaroller. Wrinkles and tightening the facial skin not so much because the skin is bonded to the muscle and isn't capable of working loose. On the rest of the body, including the neck the skin is a separate layer and can be made tighter to the underlying structure. This is where I'd use dermaroller 😎

I have not smoked in 9 years, but I still have lip lines. I have done several facial exercise programs (including yours) and still have the lines. Have had some luck with deep TCA peels. I have derma rolled, but not sure I see any improvement.
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Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:59 pm      Reply with quote
How often should one dermaroll? I get conflicting info on Google. Some say daily or every other day and some say once a month since it takes Collagen that much time to rebuild.
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:50 am      Reply with quote
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Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:35 pm      Reply with quote
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How often should one dermaroll? I get conflicting info on Google. Some say daily or every other day and some say once a month since it takes Collagen that much time to rebuild.

It depends entirely on the length of the needles.
If you want only product penetration than you could use 0.2 or 0.25 pretty frequently (such as every other day)...0.5 to 0.75 maybe every 2 to 3 weeks or even once a month. Above that 1.0 to 1.5 probably no more than every 4 to 6 weeks.And I wouldn't use longer needles than that for the face.. at least not at home.
This is all a rough estimate but generally speaking the deeper the needle the more time you need to heal. The shorter rollers like 0.2 to 0.25 don't go deeply enough to create trauma and the need for time to heal for building collagen.

We have a lot of info for dermarolling on this forum. Check it out.
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Needless to say, I've been sucked into this one - I bought the roller with the 1.5mm needles, the cheap one from Ebay. It seems perfectly fine - I definitely wouldn't be paying big bucks for one of these. Anyway, I used it for the first time last night - very cautiously AND it hurt like hell!! I really didn't press very hard as I was too terrified of doing something awful to myself. I'm also a bit worried about infection - I just poured boiling water over the roller before and after use.

It really did hurt too much to use for any length of time and afterwards my face was stinging so I immediately used my Baby Q - this calmed things down allot. This morning my face is fine but my neck is a bit red. I think I'm going to use some Emla cream next time before I use it.

Does anybody know how often you're supposed to use the roller? I might give it another go tomorrow night along with the Emla cream and will let you know how I go.

Hi i want to buy one dermo roller. Can u send me ebey link u bought dermoroller ?
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Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:55 am      Reply with quote
Hi tankeryanker (great name!)

Lip lines , like crows feet are caused by the muscle developing a distorted shape. If you flatten the muscle by exercise the crows feet are still there when you smile but disappear immediately when you relax. The problem with lip lines is that your mouth isn't at rest very much at all and every time you talk the lip muscle contracts and pronounced wrinkles appear.
The Ageless programme doesn't have exercises for lip or forehead wrinkles.

Since you can't use Botox on lip lines I'd recommend breaking down the muscle without contracting it, which means grasping your lip and pressing it repeatedly, or rotating your knuckles over the area. It won't look great in the short term precisely because the muscle will be broken down, but it will look smoother every time it repairs itself and your lines will improve. Leave plenty of time for recovery between sessions. Good luck 😎

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Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:04 pm      Reply with quote
Hi there,

I've been considering using a dermaroller for large pores. I have huge pores on my nose and cheeks from acne and oil. I was wondering what size would be appropriate and what serum to use after? I haven't found much information on treating large pores successfully with a dermaroller. Thank you!
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Hi all,

I'm reading through this thread for many days now and am being overwhelmed with information. Thanks so much to all of you who shared their experiences over the many years.

I have one specific question I was not able to find an answer for so far. As I understood inflammation is very important to trigger the cascade of collagen buildup.

I'm using a 1.5 mm derma roller on my face and using it is a pretty bloody procedure for me, I'm looking like a lobster for the rest of the day. Confused

But I'm wondering if I can use cold water or even ice to cool down my red hot face after the rolling, or does this hinder the collagen buildup? Any ideas?
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