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Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:56 am      Reply with quote
Hi,

I've been lurking for awhile now but don't post much.

I'm 52 and have been blessed with good genes in terms of my face, but my NECK look like it belongs elsewhere!!!

In any event, I know that while surgery is really the only way to get rid of this wattle, there must be a way to care for it! I use most of my normal face routine on my neck (Rosehip Seed Cleanser, Super CP serum, and emu oil/HA, but stop short of Green Cream. I find my neck can't even tolerate level 3.

What do all your middle aged lovelies do for the skin on your neck? Any miracle cures? Shock

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Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:39 pm      Reply with quote
If you can't tolerate Green Cream perhaps you should try Avene retrinal? It's stronger but less harsh on your skin. You can pick up at CVS or CVS online, or through Tubotica (from Spain).

DMAE is also for firming/tightening.

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Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:44 pm      Reply with quote
Thanks for your response! I do use PSF's DMAE and will check out the Avene retrinal for my neck.

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Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:13 pm      Reply with quote
Don't know the percentage of PSF DMAE but I've tried SAS and a couple of other brands (really having senior moments today).

Anyway, I just ordered my 2nd refill of 6% DMAE from Candy (candessence.com). It's the only one I've tried that sinks in and doesn't ball up.

I use Candessence 6% DMAE, Triple C (antioxidant)
Skinbio's Super CP serum
Avene Ystheal cream (0.05% retinaldehyde)
Avene Diacnel on oily areas (.1% retinaldehyde + 6% glycolic acid)

I have Green Cream level 9 but the ethanol often makes my skin peel ... just trying to use it up.

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i m in my mid 20s but i have notice the lines on my neck. its quite deep-set of lines Sad is there any cream that i can apply to lighten the lines?

can i apply my normal moisturizer or eye-cream onto my neck as well?

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:21 am      Reply with quote
Rjez,

Do you use the .05 on your neck? I'm thinking of trying their .25 on my neck. I use GC 6 on my face quite well and will bump it up to level 9 when I can. I USED to use level 9 and then just went to RAM .1 BIG mistake!!! My skin really does better with the GC!

Glad you found things that work for you. Our routines are pretty similar. When do you put on the DMAE? Do you put it on first after cleansing? I'm still trying to figure out what's the best timing etc. for the various things I use. I ALSO love being as efficient as possible! Shock

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:47 am      Reply with quote
The Gatineau one is supposed to be fabulous. I cannot really comment personally as i am only 19 but i am thinking of starting to use a neck cream as i like to think that prevention is better then cure so when i do decide to buy one i am going to go with the gatineau one. They praise it a lot on qvc uk
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4sons wrote:
Hi,

I've been lurking for awhile now but don't post much.

I'm 52 and have been blessed with good genes in terms of my face, but my NECK look like it belongs elsewhere!!!

In any event, I know that while surgery is really the only way to get rid of this wattle, there must be a way to care for it! I use most of my normal face routine on my neck (Rosehip Seed Cleanser, Super CP serum, and emu oil/HA, but stop short of Green Cream. I find my neck can't even tolerate level 3.

What do all your middle aged lovelies do for the skin on your neck? Any miracle cures? Shock


Hi 4sons,

Do you think your neck is responding to the Super CP serum? Could it be a part of the "uglies"?
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i m in my mid 20s but i have notice the lines on my neck. its quite deep-set of lines Sad is there any cream that i can apply to lighten the lines?

can i apply my normal moisturizer or eye-cream onto my neck as well?

I just apply my normal moisturizer for face and neck!
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Hi 4sons,

Do you think your neck is responding to the Super CP serum? Could it be a part of the "uglies"?


I wish ... Sad

I've used CPs for well over a year now and I think the CP induced uglies are past. I just have a flabby neck! Thank you, former generations! LOL Embarassed

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Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:14 pm      Reply with quote
helenzwl ~ but somehow, the moisturizer that i am using for my face doesnt seems to help in lightening the marks for my neck. Sad

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wickawer wrote:
The Gatineau one is supposed to be fabulous. I cannot really comment personally as i am only 19 but i am thinking of starting to use a neck cream as i like to think that prevention is better then cure so when i do decide to buy one i am going to go with the gatineau one. They praise it a lot on qvc uk

Wickawer, its a good idea to at least use something you think will work. I say this because I have a friend who is in her mid-40s, who was religious about applying neck cream starting when she was in her 20s, and she has NO LINES on her neck AT ALL! She has had a full face lift (way too prematurely as far I was concerned!), but the doctor didn't even need to go near her neck because it still looks like she's in her 20s! Her experience speaks loads for prevention. Its one of those things that you won't really notice the improvement or prevention until you hit your 40s I guess and can compare yourself to your friends.
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Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:33 am      Reply with quote
I've never ever ever used anything on my neck, because anything I used would break me out. Neck spots! Eugh!

And my neck looked great till just this last year, and I'm, 47. I think aging doesnt happen on the neck untill about my age. Could others chime in on this? Am I getting it early because of all these years of no neck cream?

I think I'd like to make a hydrating DMAE cream for my neck - anyone done this?

I do put cp serum on my neck at night when I do my face, but I hadnt thought of using eluage on my neck...?
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I've never ever ever used anything on my neck, because anything I used would break me out. Neck spots! Eugh!

And my neck looked great till just this last year, and I'm, 47. I think aging doesnt happen on the neck untill about my age. Could others chime in on this? Am I getting it early because of all these years of no neck cream?

I think I'd like to make a hydrating DMAE cream for my neck - anyone done this?

I do put cp serum on my neck at night when I do my face, but I hadnt thought of using eluage on my neck...?


My neck just fell apart as well. Literally one year it was FINE and the neck? Disaster. I do get a lymph drainage massage w/my facials every other month. Apparently by 52 (at least) the old drainage system isn't what it used to be. SUPPOSEDLY this type of massage will help things look younger, but I'm starting to believe the only thing that will REALLY do the trick is surgery (which ain't happenin' any time soon!). My neck isn't wrinkled. It's sagging. Yes, I am living proof that gravity happens. Sad

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:04 pm      Reply with quote
4sons wrote:
skincarefreak wrote:
Hi 4sons,

Do you think your neck is responding to the Super CP serum? Could it be a part of the "uglies"?


I wish ... Sad

I've used CPs for well over a year now and I think the CP induced uglies are past. I just have a flabby neck! Thank you, former generations! LOL Embarassed


4sons,

I never got past the uglies.I can only use the cp serum for a couple of times a week, then I'd have to stop because things just started looking worse.
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Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:39 pm      Reply with quote
Hi, I'm 53yo so I can relate. I have some neck rings-mild compared to what I have seen on other women my age or youger. I've been using IFeelPretty's DMAE mist and spray it on my hand and apply, then spray my chest. I also use a mix of seabuckthorn and rosehip seed oil afterwards-a few drops each, it doesn't take much. Truly I think that this has helped but after a certain point the only thing that really helps is a neck lift. Good luck.
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Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:40 pm      Reply with quote
Check this out ... this is soooooooo tempting to my 52 yr. old neck.

But not my single mom wallet!!

http://www.quickliftmd.com/doctorbio.cfm?providerid=6&practiceid=2111&zip=&searchtype=mapmw

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Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:55 pm      Reply with quote
4sons wrote:
Check this out ... this is soooooooo tempting to my 52 yr. old neck.

But not my single mom wallet!!

http://www.quickliftmd.com/doctorbio.cfm?providerid=6&practiceid=2111&zip=&searchtype=mapmw


Yup, that's just what I need and now wouldn't be soon enough. Nice before/after pictures. Does anyone live in Wisconsin, I will need a place to recouperate?

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Frodo ...

Sooooooooooo good to see you!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

My brother lives there ... I'm going to save my bucks and beg him for a "vacation" at his house! But then I suppose I'd have to tell him what I'm doing!!!

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Frodo ...

Sooooooooooo good to see you!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

My brother lives there ... I'm going to save my bucks and beg him for a "vacation" at his house! But then I suppose I'd have to tell him what I'm doing!!!


Maybe we could schedule appointments back to back and then heal together. I'll be glad to pay him rent. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

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I use Ice Elements serum and Carole Maggio facial exercises.
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4sons - Yup, I use .05 on my neck (and eyes). I have the one specific for the eyes but Avene Ystheal is so gentle, I pretty much use the cream everywhere.

Green Cream has ethanol and is one chemical transformation process further away than retinaldehyde. Hence, it's more irritating and has less retinol than Ystheal.

In the mornings I use C serum after cleansing, then DMAE, then moisturizer.

HTH

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Hello everyone Smile
After reading about Avene and it's mild properties, I went online and this is what I found:
http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/detail?prodid=238748&previousURI=/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/search?page=3^Query=avene^ActiveCat=65^startLink=1
Rjez, is this the product you are using? I've noticed it's a lotion and from what I understood it's for the body. Can I still use it on my face and neck?

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4sons - Yup, I use .05 on my neck (and eyes). I have the one specific for the eyes but Avene Ystheal is so gentle, I pretty much use the cream everywhere.

Green Cream has ethanol and is one chemical transformation process further away than retinaldehyde. Hence, it's more irritating and has less retinol than Ystheal.

In the mornings I use C serum after cleansing, then DMAE, then moisturizer.

HTH


Wow ... thanks for getting back to me! Green Cream does make my skin more sensitive to other actives. I think I'm having trouble with the PSF DMAE and Vitamin C because of that! I use both the DMAE and the Vitamin C on my neck with NO problems and it's more sensitive than my face! So the Green Cream must be making me more sensitive.

Do you use PSF's DMAE?

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Has anyone tried the neck cream from Clarins? I heard it has pretty good results on some people's neck.
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