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Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:07 pm      Reply with quote
Preach it, sharky ... seriously.

It's enough to make me run to the nearest PS for a peel!!

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Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:11 pm      Reply with quote
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Preach it, sharky ... seriously.

It's enough to make me run to the nearest PS for a peel!!


I'm right there with you.

On another note, is there a supplement that will help with collegen, i.e. tighten up the skin a bit? I am so stupid when it come to vitamins. I take a few but I am sure at my age I should be taking more.

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Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:37 pm      Reply with quote
Frodo, there are a number of supplements that can help with building collagen. Among the most important are an Amino Acid Complex that's high in L-Arginine (if you can't find one with at least 1000mg., supplement with a 500 mg. Tablet twice daily), a Mega Vitamin B supplement, an Omega-3 supplement that also includes Borage and Flax Oils with the Fish Oil and an Ester C supplement.

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Ladies,
I am 46 years old, but perimenopause is hitting me HARD!!! Right until my early forties, I was often told that I looked incredibly young for my age..not any more! Confused So can I please join the club? Very Happy I already have crows feet, horizontal wrinkles at the top of my nose, AND the dreaded 11s. Shock That's what I get for being a beach babe all those years in Hawaii.Rolling Eyes

CPs will always be a staple for me. I'm still using regular CP serum full-strength. I noticed when I dilute it, it makes my skin dry and crepey. On the other hand, using it full-strength makes my skin hydrated, plump, and glowy! I only discovered this when I decided to try an "uglies" experiment...imagine my surprise when it had quite the opposite effect!

Frodo, thank you for this thread! It has been both inspirational and educational.

Nadine

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Hi all, I'm so glad someone thought of us over 50s. I'm 54 and my skin has aged alarmingly in the last 3 years.Don't know if it's because of menopause or going off the Pill 3 years ago or not using the right skin creams? Living in the harsh Australian sun hasn't helped either I know. Sad I used to use Dior skin creams but they just seemed to stop working so have been on a quest for anti wrinkle/canyon creams not to mention landslide(sagging) creams ever since and have been following this forum for the past few months. I purchased Alpha Derma CE, Derma Excel 7 and the AD Prep a month ago and can see some improvement - a long way to go yet though. Crying or Very sad I am using these twice a day. I cleanse and tone with Loreal, also use their ReFinish Micro-Dermabrasion once or twice a week. I wonder should I be using any of the other JB range to really improve my face. People still say I look younger than I am but YES those magnifying mirrors give you one hell of a fright every morning! OR should I be using LE ULLE CP's SKB BQ - got to say I'm totally confused as to what these all are???????????? Will go check out some of the web sites for them when I've posted this.
I am still working - teach art to 3-5year olds and love it. I have 3 children of my own 16, 25, 29 and am very happily divorced.I'm too much of a coward to have a face lift though have contimplated getting Botox if nothing else works. I hope you guys can help me out - I really need HELP!
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Hi Marina - yes definitely I do think that because I have nothing I have to do now I have gotten unmotivated and just lost my desire to do anything. I have time to go to the gym every day but I don't. When I was working I was at the gym 6 days a week. I am older now too and I have a chronic back problem and that wears me out. It is not pschological it really is a physical thing. When the pain is gone for a few days I have more energy. I am probably going to change careers for a while at least and was thinking of volunteering just to get back out into the world to see where I fit in. To tell you the truth I think I have been in a state of mild depression for the last 7 years, since Perimenopause hit me. The world used to so full of possibilities. I want that back. I know many women my age who have this. It is all in my head. I have not had my period for months and I hope the end is near.I don't like this transition time. I have some other friends in their late 40's early 50's who are going through similar things too.
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Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:47 pm      Reply with quote
I'm glad this topic came up. Just because you are over 50 does not mean you're going to fall to pieces. There are many things you can do to fight back. I'm talking about good eating habits (not necessarily a diet), supplements, exercise, reducing your stress and just living for the moment. Mental has a lot to do with it. And of course, good skincare and gadgets help too Very Happy, and I have learned so much from this forum as far as that goes.

I hit perimenopause about 4 years ago and had a brief stint of hot flashes and sleeplessness, but it all stopped eventually by itself. Maybe I'm the exception, but it does happen. I'm been in menopause for 3 years now, and I have never taken HRT, and never had a drastic decline in my skin or body. My weight is always around 130, which is healthy for my height. I still wear size 4/5. I try to eat healthy (cheat now and then) take supplements with the guidance of a nutritionist, exercise at least 3 times a week, and most of all, don't stress about everything or worry so much about the future.

My skin is actually looking pretty damn good for my age. Partly because of genetics (oily) I don't have a single wrinkle and no age spots. No discernible sagging yet. I have a decent libido and no aches or pains except minor knee pain from the drug I'm taking for breast cancer (I'm in remission). I sleep well. I feel like I'm in my 30s and most people think that I am too. They are usually shocked when I tell them I'm 51 (52 in June). So I'm proof that HRT is not always necessary.

Of course, it's a personal choice, but you need to weigh the risks/benefits, especially if you are prone to breast cancer:

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Frodo, there are a number of supplements that can help with building collagen. Among the most important are an Amino Acid Complex that's high in L-Arginine (if you can't find one with at least 1000mg., supplement with a 500 mg. Tablet twice daily), a Mega Vitamin B supplement, an Omega-3 supplement that also includes Borage and Flax Oils with the Fish Oil and an Ester C supplement.

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Thanks a bunch, I am taking everything except the Amino Acid one. Will see if I can get it locally tomorrow.

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Ladies,
I am 46 years old, but perimenopause is hitting me HARD!!! Right until my early forties, I was often told that I looked incredibly young for my age..not any more! Confused So can I please join the club? Very Happy I already have crows feet, horizontal wrinkles at the top of my nose, AND the dreaded 11s. Shock That's what I get for being a beach babe all those years in Hawaii.Rolling Eyes

CPs will always be a staple for me. I'm still using regular CP serum full-strength. I noticed when I dilute it, it makes my skin dry and crepey. On the other hand, using it full-strength makes my skin hydrated, plump, and glowy! I only discovered this when I decided to try an "uglies" experiment...imagine my surprise when it had quite the opposite effect!

Frodo, thank you for this thread! It has been both inspirational and educational.

Nadine


You're welcome. I am learning quite a bit. This forum/topic is for everyone, I just started this thread because I want to know what those that are close to my age are doing. And quite frankly I believe the "youngin's" might learn something too. Most of them here already know how important SS is, not like some of us growing up in the 60's.

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I have problems with amino acids sometimes - does this have to be taken on an empty stomach? That is the issue with me. I think the Flax and Fish Oils are great for skin and hair.

Hey how do you attach the post you are referring to at the top of your own?
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I have problems with amino acids sometimes - does this have to be taken on an empty stomach? That is the issue with me. I think the Flax and Fish Oils are great for skin and hair.

Hey how do you attach the post you are referring to at the top of your own?


Use the quote key up to the right of the post you want to quote.

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I have problems with amino acids sometimes - does this have to be taken on an empty stomach? That is the issue with me. I think the Flax and Fish Oils are great for skin and hair.

Hey how do you attach the post you are referring to at the top of your own?


mommydearest, what kind of problems? I know if I take my supplements on an empty stomach, I get nauseated with in an hour of taking them. If the supplements themselves are a problem you might want to look into getting a Protein Powder mix and making a smoothie twice a day.

Amino Acids are the building-blocks of protein and our need for them increases as we get older since our bodies don't process dietary protein as efficiently anymore. And, I read a study awhile back on dietary protein deficiency in the aged. (I'm trying to find it again so I can post it.) So, if our need for protein increases and we don't get enough in our diets, supplementation is our only recourse.

Just as an example, since all aminos are necessary and nine are deemed "essential", supplementation of L-Arginine alone makes a huge difference in skin and hair vitality and is a major factor in lean muscle development. Personally, I consider it the "youth" amino acid because I see an increase in line-development when I'm off of it for any length of time. When I start taking my using 7 gms a day the lines go poof within 6-8 weeks. I recently made up my mind that, no matter what, I'll not let myself run out of it again.

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mommydearest, what kind of problems? I know if I take my supplements on an empty stomach, I get nauseated with in an hour of taking them. If the supplements themselves are a problem you might want to look into getting a Protein Powder mix and making a smoothie twice a day.

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Hi Ari-

Yes I feel sick to my stomach and it lasts all day even after I eat. Just taking amino's on empty does it I guess. I do take a protein powder 2 times a day but I am not getting as much of that Arginine as you are. That is a lot. I only get 800 mg with the two. The only wrinkles I have are the 11's between brows and NL's. Does this amino acid take those away on you?
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Hi, mommiedearest

I don't have the 11s or the NLs, so I don't know if L-Arginine will take them away. Sorry.

The lines I'm currently fighting are the curves over my eyebrows from constantly raising them and a line at the corner of each eye that goes all the way to my hairline. This is caused my sleeping on my side and "scrunching" my face into my pillow--can't break myself of the habit since trying to sleep on my back makes me dizzy and nauseated. LOL

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Hi Ari-

Have you ever tried that crescent shaped pillow women are using to keep their face from scrunching? I have one but I move from back to side and don't like the feeling of it when I am on my back. If I find I am getting wrinkles from when I side sleep though I will have to try and deal with it.
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I've been thinking about getting one (and have a site bookmarked) but I'm just not sure if I want to invest that much in a pillow I might not use. Confused

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Re: pillow ... those silk/satin pillowcases are also said to prevent "sticking" and therefore, wrinkling. It was a relative inexpensive investment ...

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Hi, 4sons,

I use one of those silk/satin pillowcases but I really scrunch my face into the pillow at night. I was just telling someone to use scotch tape at night. Gotta remember to take my own advice. Laughing

Thanks

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Everyone needs to choose their own path but aging does present special challenges. It is not real to say that appearance and aging do not matter for women in the workplace. Very few women make upper management and most TV achor women are retired at menopause (that doesn't happen to men). I think Barbara Wawa is the only old female on TV news/interviews).Several years ago I was looking much older and was heavier. I was doing well in my job but was getting the aging response (i.e. invisibility). I lost 40 pounds, had a cyst on my eyelid removed and in the process removed the folds, did peels and rid my face of wrinkles (almost completely).

It was a godsend. Agencies no longer thought I was too old to start new things and my funding went to the highest in my department. This is obviously not all due to appearance but I do not think it would have happened without the changes.

Like it or not men are allowed to age but women are not. If you do not agree why are all those talented women reporters retired at 45-50. There are no female Cronkites, Rathers.......


Sharky, I guess we'll just have to disagree on this one. But, I DO agree that aging presents special challenges. You just have to decide whether you're up to them or not. Also, we boomers are in the majority and we're more active than our parents and grandparents were at our age. And, of course, we're going to live longer as a group. Our society is as youth-oriented as it's ever been, if not more so. But, we are a resource that business is finding increasingly harder to do without.

And, to me, it really depends on what you call “old”. Take a look at Helen Mirren (62 years old), for example, or:

Leslie Stahl (66 years old), or
Katie Couric (50 years old), or
Diane Sawyer (62 years old)

All of whom are still at the top of their game and will probably retire only when they get good and ready. And, these ladies are the pioneers of women in broadcasting! It's only been within the last 20 years or so that women have had a real presence in broadcasting.

I still say it has everything to do with the attitude you project, and not only how well you take care of yourself. If you expect to be taken seriously and treated well, you will be. If you expect age to be a handicap, it will be because that's what you'll project. Either way, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Project competency and vitality and you will be taken seriously in the workplace. The 34-year old office “stud” might not make a pass at you but so what? But, then again, he might. It does happen. Laughing

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Frodo, there are a number of supplements that can help with building collagen. Among the most important are an Amino Acid Complex that's high in L-Arginine (if you can't find one with at least 1000mg., supplement with a 500 mg. Tablet twice daily), a Mega Vitamin B supplement, an Omega-3 supplement that also includes Borage and Flax Oils with the Fish Oil and an Ester C supplement.

A


I need help please. Arielle, can you recommend an Amino Acid Complex? I got totally confused at the HFS today and just walked out. I just threw up my arms and said to myself "I haven't a clue".

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Frodo, do you live near a GNC? I take their "Amino Burst 3000" for athletes (which I'm not. LOL) This is the only one I've found that has the perfect amount of all essential aminos and branched-chain aminos except L-Arginine. I still have to supplement that.

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Frodo, do you live near a GNC? I take their "Amino Burst 3000" for athletes (which I'm not. LOL) This is the only one I've found that has the perfect amount of all essential aminos and branched-chain aminos except L-Arginine. I still have to supplement that.

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We have a very small GNC store so I will check and see if they have it. On the L-arginine, sorry to be pita but what should I look for like in strength?

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Good Lord, child, you're not a pita! You're only likely to find 500 mg. caps. But, that's okay 'cause they're cheap (especially at WalMart). But, if you can find 1,000 mg. get those as there are fewer to take.

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Arielle wrote:
Frodo, there are a number of supplements that can help with building collagen. Among the most important are an Amino Acid Complex that's high in L-Arginine (if you can't find one with at least 1000mg., supplement with a 500 mg. Tablet twice daily), a Mega Vitamin B supplement, an Omega-3 supplement that also includes Borage and Flax Oils with the Fish Oil and an Ester C supplement.

A


I need help please. Arielle, can you recommend an Amino Acid Complex? I got totally confused at the HFS today and just walked out. I just threw up my arms and said to myself "I haven't a clue".


I was about to ask the same question!

I note that a few of you use HA and emu oil. I have tried using these but I must say I am not fan of them. I tried mixing HA+emu, applying HA first and then emu etc. but just does not work for me. I feel a film of oil on my face even though I have put it for an hour or so and patches of my face still looks dry. Any suggestions?

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