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Vit C - PSF 15% versus Alpha Derma C&C
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Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:02 pm      Reply with quote
Hello,

I'm interested in trying a new vit C product. It's been a while since I posted and I miss you guys!!

I've learned that PSF is now only selling their newest 15% Vit C that no longer has glycerin in it (after EDS runs out of their old stock of emergen, they will also only be selling the 15% stuff)

Firstly, does anyone find the new glycerin free Vit C 15% to be drying? It should be ok for me in the summer, but in the winter, I tend to have tight feeling skin.

Secondly, how does PSF compare to the Alpha Derma C&C stuff. AD is more expensive for half the size, so I'm wondering if it is better because I've read good things about it.

Is the difference in the magnesium ascorbyl (AD)versus L-ascorbic (PSF)?

All opinions greatly welcomed THANKS!!

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Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:09 am      Reply with quote
anyone??

Or can someone lead me to a link that discusses/compare the 2?

thanks!

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Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:31 am      Reply with quote
Hi Cautious
I can't think of a link that compares the two.

I've used C&C and I've used L-Ascorbic serums (though not PSF's)

There are big differences between C-ester products and L-Ascorbic.

C-esters (apart from the latest one, Tetra) are not proven to stimulate collagen production so really it's just the anti-oxidant protection you're getting from them. They're gentle because they're neutral.

L-Ascorbic - well proven collagen stimulator and UV anti-oxidant, BUT acidic so slightly exfoliating and can be irritating.

If you liked the results L-ascorbic serums have given you before I'd go for one of those again.
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Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:25 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you so much for the info.

I didn't know that c-esters don't help with collagen.

I was just concerned with the new PSF 15% because they took out the glcyerin and I'm scared my skin will be dried out or irritated without it.

Thanks.

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Sorry, just looking at the JB website, they do indicate that their C&C boosts collagen levels...so is this just misinformation or is it because of the sodium ascorbate.

It's all very confusing...everytime I decide to buy new products, I go through this Rolling Eyes

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Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:39 pm      Reply with quote
Cautious - Maybe I should have said 'not as proven' to promote collagen production or not as effective at it as L-Ascorbic.

Have a read over here; I can't remember all the particulars of each ester.
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitcderiv.html
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Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:46 pm      Reply with quote
Have anybody used it both?
I would like to know the really result.
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Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:49 pm      Reply with quote
Molly wrote:
Cautious - Maybe I should have said 'not as proven' to promote collagen production or not as effective at it as L-Ascorbic.

Have a read over here; I can't remember all the particulars of each ester.
http://www.smartskincare.com/treatments/topical/vitcderiv.html


Your link was broken.
Please revise it.
I love to know more information before I press my new order.
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Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:06 pm      Reply with quote
Noname - the link isn't broken. If it doesn't work for you go towww.smartskincare.com and look under recent articles "Anhydrous vitamin C combo. Making the best of vitamin C skin care."

Also have a look through the antioxidants part of the forum and you'll see they are less proven to stimulate collagen production.

I've tried various L-ascorbic products and various C-ester ones (including the C&C) and find none of the ester ones live up to the promise including Tetra, which makes sense considering the serious tests of that were using it combined with L-ascorbic and not alone.
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