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REVIEW - BOOTS SOLTAN 50+ ANTI-AGEING SUN DEFENCE CREAM
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BOOTS SOLTAN 50+ ANTI-AGEING SUN DEFENCE CREAM

This is really more of a partial review, as because my skin is very pale, I avoid the sun when at all possible. So I can't really give good advice on whether it's effective at protecting your skin from the sun.

However, it has been given 5 stars on the UVA protection rating system, with a photostable SPF of 50+.

I have been using Clarins UV40 for facial sun protection during the cooler months because of its lightness and, as avalange so eloquently puts it, cosmetic elegance. Worrying that the Clarins won't be enough for summer, I decided to experiment a little with other brands, and this is the best I've yet tried.

Soltan is Boots' own brand of suncare. It's very reasonably priced and comes in a 50ml tube.

The blurb states that, as well as "photostable UVA & UVB filters" and "five star ultra protection against UVA", this also contains a "patented antioxidant complex and Optisol to reduce radical damage to the skin."

It's also supposed to provide the following benefits: "Light, non-greasy formula helps protect against long term skin damage - Water resistant - Non pore-blocking - Dermatologically tested - Can be used under make-up - Adds a hint of radiance."

The directions tell you to apply 15 mins before sun exposure, then re-apply 15 mins later, followed by subsequent 1 to 2 hourly applications.

Ingredients:
aqua, C12-15 alkyl benzoate, glycerin, octocrylene, butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane, isotridecyl salicylate, isononyl isononanoate, C-18-36 acid glycol ester, polyglyceryl-3, methylglucose distearate, polysilicone-15, methylene bis-benzotriazoyl, tetromethylbutylphenol, bis-ethylhexyloxyphenol, methoxyphenyl triazine, butyrospermum parkii butter, dimethicone, titanium dioxide, diethylhexyl butamido triazone, sorbitan stearate, phenoxyethanol, cetyl alcohol, polysorbate 20, mica, decyl glucoside, tocopheryl acetate, parfum, xanthan gum, acrylates/vinyl isodecanoate, crosspolymer, sodium ascorbyl phosphate, vitis vinifera, sucrose cocoate, dimethyl oxazolidine, glycol, propylene glycol, panax ginseng, manganese dioxide, aminomethyl propanol

Verdict:
As I said earlier, I'm not likely to give this a full workout until I go to Ontario later this year, so I can't vouch for how this stuff works in really hot, sunny climes. However, it's been absolutely fine so far in reasonably sunny (with cloudy/rainy intervals) England.

Texture-wise, this feels like quite a rich cream, but spreads nicely and easily on the skin. Whilst it doesn't completely absorb, it doesn't feel anywhere near as greasy, sticky or heavy as other creamy sunscreens. It's not completely shine-free, but the initial shine does wear off considerably after a little while, leaving what I feel to be an acceptable "glow". In fact, it really doesn't look bad at all on bare skin. You may, though, want to dust some powder on top if you prefer a more matte look. There was no discernible white cast whatsoever, but, as I wrote earlier, my skin is very pale.

My make-up goes on fine over the top - although I do use a spray foundation (SK II Airtouch), rather than MMU or cream/liquid.

I'd say that, despite the seemingly rich texture, the lovely avalange herself might agree with me that this is quite a cosmetically elegant product.

Unless I find anything superior, I reckon I'll probably be sticking to this over the summer months.

Now I'm just waiting for someone more knowledgeable than myself to tell me that the ingredients list is horrendous, and was probably created by all the devils in Hell. (Keeping my fingers crossed that there's nothing too nasty in there - but really looking forward to hearing your views on whether it's a goodie or a baddie, recipe-wise.)
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:26 am      Reply with quote
I bought this during my recent holiday in England after reading about it in another forum. It has a good protective formulation that includes avobenzone stabilized by octocrylene as well as Tinosorb M and S. For the price, it's fantastic value and the UVA protection is estimated to be at least as good as Avene sunscreens. I also found it to be less heavy in texture than the Avene products. Only drawback is that you probably shouldn't use it under mineral make up because the minerals could reduce the effect of the avobenzone. In any case, you should also wait about 20 minutes before applying any make up.
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:31 am      Reply with quote
The other drawback is I can't get it in Canada. Confused
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I bought this during my recent holiday in England after reading about it in another forum. It has a good protective formulation that includes avobenzone stabilized by octocrylene as well as Tinosorb M and S. For the price, it's fantastic value and the UVA protection is estimated to be at least as good as Avene sunscreens. I also found it to be less heavy in texture than the Avene products. Only drawback is that you probably shouldn't use it under mineral make up because the minerals could reduce the effect of the avobenzone. In any case, you should also wait about 20 minutes before applying any make up.



Wahey! Thanks for that good news. I was worried that I'd picked a dud. Very Happy
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The other drawback is I can't get it in Canada. Confused


Just sent you a PM. Very Happy
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majorb majorb majorb!!!!

did I hear that I might like a sunscreen??? Thank you SO much for this review--I was just on the very verge of giving up, having finally tossed all my avene and having bought two new ss yesterday that didn't even measure up (Vichy ecran ultra fluide sechage express--LIES!!! and Galenic creme visage anti age 50+...). Sad Sad I decided that I'm totally sick and tired of getting clogged pores from the Avene, despite more assiduous cleansing. I was almost ready to forgo my quest for adequate uva protection all together, and now, your post! Please keep us updated on all your trial runs, and if you come back from ONT with thumbs way up, I'll have to score me some!

Thanks again

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I too have found the Avene quite heavy, I do have a thing against buying Soltan mainly as when I was young my mum would not buy Soltan as everyone on holday who was burnt used Soltan sunscreen but I expect it has been re-formulated since those days.
Am also trying Garnier alongside the Neal's Yard so will post a review soon.

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:33 pm      Reply with quote
I thought the Galenic sunscreen was not bad too, actually. Somewhat less shiny than the Avene ones.
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:33 am      Reply with quote
I do hope you like it!

Only thing is that I won't be in Ontario until September. Hopefully, someone experiencing hotter weather might give it a workout before then and post their results.

I did try a couple of the L'Oréal facial sunscreens (both SPF 50+) and wasn't impressed. The tinted one was rather dark, and both were supposed to be anti-shine, but I found them to be extremely shiny indeed.

I'm just so glad to have found this one. Very Happy


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majorb majorb majorb!!!!

did I hear that I might like a sunscreen??? Thank you SO much for this review--I was just on the very verge of giving up, having finally tossed all my avene and having bought two new ss yesterday that didn't even measure up (Vichy ecran ultra fluide sechage express--LIES!!! and Galenic creme visage anti age 50+...). Sad Sad I decided that I'm totally sick and tired of getting clogged pores from the Avene, despite more assiduous cleansing. I was almost ready to forgo my quest for adequate uva protection all together, and now, your post! Please keep us updated on all your trial runs, and if you come back from ONT with thumbs way up, I'll have to score me some!

Thanks again

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I too have found the Avene quite heavy, I do have a thing against buying Soltan mainly as when I was young my mum would not buy Soltan as everyone on holday who was burnt used Soltan sunscreen but I expect it has been re-formulated since those days.
Am also trying Garnier alongside the Neal's Yard so will post a review soon.


They're supposed to be ever so good these days, rosebud, and now have 5 star ratings. I'm sure they must have improved their formulas.

Time will tell, though, if someone can maybe give it a try under tougher conditions than over here in the UK.
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You need to get the latest version of the Avene emulsion formulas. They have *dramatically* improved.

You must check that the pack says **ultra-fluide**. There seems to be some confusion during this cross-over period as some of the shops have been selling off old stock.

I've now had both versions side by side to compare (Kathleen sent me samples of the old ones) - the ingredients are different and the textures are quite, quite different.

This is the state of play
Tubotica is now selling the NEW SPF50, but still the OLD SPF20
www.skincarecentral.biz is now selling the NEW SPF50, but the OLD SPF20 (sample sizes too)
http://www.monguidesante.com
is selling the NEW versions of both, but it's slow, they take at least 5 days to post the stuff.

The SPF 20 is virtually matt, virtually colour free; I'm using it on my neck and ears!! because my hair doesn't get stuck in it.

The SPF 50 has marginally more sheen, colour but again sheer, sheer, sheer. I can't use mineral SS because of colour issues (I'm medium toned) but this just gives a hint of evening and actually makes me look better.

It washes off really easily and it *improves* the moisture balance of your skin with daily use. The only negative I can find is that I can't use it on my inner eye area - the sebum regulating ingredient makes them water.

I love, love, love it.
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Molly wrote:
You need to get the latest version of the Avene emulsion formulas. They have *dramatically* improved.

You must check that the pack says **ultra-fluide**. There seems to be some confusion during this cross-over period as some of the shops have been selling off old stock.

I've now had both versions side by side to compare (Kathleen sent me samples of the old ones) - the ingredients are different and the textures are quite, quite different.

This is the state of play
Tubotica is now selling the NEW SPF50, but still the OLD SPF20
www.skincarecentral.biz is now selling the NEW SPF50, but the OLD SPF20 (sample sizes too)
http://www.monguidesante.com
is selling the NEW versions of both, but it's slow, they take at least 5 days to post the stuff.

The SPF 20 is virtually matt, virtually colour free; I'm using it on my neck and ears!! because my hair doesn't get stuck in it.

The SPF 50 has marginally more sheen, colour but again sheer, sheer, sheer. I can't use mineral SS because of colour issues (I'm medium toned) but this just gives a hint of evening and actually makes me look better.

It washes off really easily and it *improves* the moisture balance of your skin with daily use. The only negative I can find is that I can't use it on my inner eye area - the sebum regulating ingredient makes them water.

I love, love, love it.


Molly,

I'm in France and saw the change over, replete with the signs that said "new" and promotional displays. I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest formula... Yours has curcurbita extract, too? I tried three different kinds and absolutely cannot wear any of them! Ah well, to each her own...


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I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest formula... Yours has curcurbita extract, too? I tried three different kinds and absolutely cannot wear any of them! Ah well, to each her own...


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I'm hoping you have got the old version by accident. If it doesn't suit you, which is of course possible, then I'm afraid you're missing out on a treat IMHO.
The previous versions also had the curcurbita extract so that's no indication.

I've previously used the Lait, the creams, the sprays and the two previous versions of the emulsions 20 and 50.

These are definitely and radically different to anything I previously tried (except the old SPF20 emulsion which was also very sheer).I find pores on nose which could get cloggy with the other versions are now refined.

As you know I've tried almost every other; Sofina, Bioderma, Sunkiller, Vichy, Clarins etc and this is the best yet. It's also Kathleen's (formerly of theskincareboard now skincarecentral) new HG (unlike me she is acne prone) and she's tried 'em all and hated the previous Avenes.

Here's the packshot
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Dear Molly,

Yep, that's it! I haven't tried the 20 on my face, to be fair, but I've tried to stick with both the 50 and the new and improved cleanance emulsion for about a month... I love the idea behind it and am just crushed I can't use it. I've literally developed slight acne and badly clogged pores, which never went away for the past two months. Finally, now with three days on creme minerale, my skin is clearing up. I figured it was the ss and not my cleansing method because the bumps would would pretty much surface a couple of hours after application. It must be their formulation because the Bioderma SS doesn't do that to me... Anyways, I'm letting my skin calm down for a week and then it's back to the parapharmacies to see what else is new... Will keep you posted, and so glad to hear that SOME poeple have found their HG ss!

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Molly wrote:
avalange wrote:
I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest formula... Yours has curcurbita extract, too? I tried three different kinds and absolutely cannot wear any of them! Ah well, to each her own...


--avalange

Avalange
I'm hoping you have got the old version by accident. If it doesn't suit you, which is of course possible, then I'm afraid you're missing out on a treat IMHO.
The previous versions also had the curcurbita extract so that's no indication.

I've previously used the Lait, the creams, the sprays and the two previous versions of the emulsions 20 and 50.

These are definitely and radically different to anything I previously tried (except the old SPF20 emulsion which was also very sheer).I find pores on nose which could get cloggy with the other versions are now refined.

As you know I've tried almost every other; Sofina, Bioderma, Sunkiller, Vichy, Clarins etc and this is the best yet. It's also Kathleen's (formerly of theskincareboard now skincarecentral) new HG (unlike me she is acne prone) and she's tried 'em all and hated the previous Avenes.

Here's the packshot
[img]http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k87/kang
uolai/Avene20SPF.jpg[/img]


I got a sample of the spf 20 sunscreen from Kathleen recently, well its probably a month ago. Im wandering if I got the old version or new now?? She sent it in a little jar. Its not bad - better than other Avene's Ive tried but prefer the Bioderma still. I also got a sample of the 50+ which I havent tried yet. I dont know if thats the old version either??

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My own experience so far using the Boots Soltan SPF50 sunscreen compared to old formulation of Avene Emulsion SPF50. The Boots one has a nicer finish, more cosmetically elegant and gives face a bit of radiance. And it doesn't feel so heavy on the skin as the Avene emulsion. But it stings my eyes a bit, especially after a few hours. I don't get any irritation of my eyes at all with the Avene emulsion. You have to be careful not to get the Boots sunscreen to near the eyes when you're applying. Both protect well from the tropical sun.
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Yes, on a couple of occasions recently, I've put the Soltan a wee bit too close to my eyes and it didn't sting, but did make them watery and a little irritable for a while.

Otherwise, I'm still very pleased.
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Molly wrote:
avalange wrote:
I'm pretty sure I'm using the latest formula... Yours has curcurbita extract, too? I tried three different kinds and absolutely cannot wear any of them! Ah well, to each her own...


--avalange

Avalange
I'm hoping you have got the old version by accident. If it doesn't suit you, which is of course possible, then I'm afraid you're missing out on a treat IMHO.
The previous versions also had the curcurbita extract so that's no indication.

I've previously used the Lait, the creams, the sprays and the two previous versions of the emulsions 20 and 50.

These are definitely and radically different to anything I previously tried (except the old SPF20 emulsion which was also very sheer).I find pores on nose which could get cloggy with the other versions are now refined.

As you know I've tried almost every other; Sofina, Bioderma, Sunkiller, Vichy, Clarins etc and this is the best yet. It's also Kathleen's (formerly of theskincareboard now skincarecentral) new HG (unlike me she is acne prone) and she's tried 'em all and hated the previous Avenes.

Here's the packshot
Image


Molly, Ive been using my sample of the 50+ cream this week and am really liking it. No shine, no oiliness. The texture is really nice, my skins just soaking it up. My skin is dry atm from the cold weather and retin a.

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is it hard to clean? is cleansing oil needed?
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I couldn't find the Soltan SPF 50 here, so I bought the SPF 15 one instead just to see if my skin would react to it or how I'd like the texture. It's an OK product. Nothing impressive about it at all. It's quite runny and smells awful, but I like the fact that it isn't as greasy as Avene. For the price though, it's really a good option. Does anyone know if I can wear MMU on top of it?

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is it hard to clean? is cleansing oil needed?


It comes off fine with my St Ives Radiant Cleanser. I haven't needed to use anything stronger than that.
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I couldn't find the Soltan SPF 50 here, so I bought the SPF 15 one instead just to see if my skin would react to it or how I'd like the texture. It's an OK product. Nothing impressive about it at all. It's quite runny and smells awful, but I like the fact that it isn't as greasy as Avene. For the price though, it's really a good option. Does anyone know if I can wear MMU on top of it?


The texture sounds very different to the 50. The 50 is quite creamy and not at all runny. As you say, for the price, it is a good option - especially for that amount of protection (in the 50).
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I heard it is really good too, and was really excited that boots's coming to canada. but I have not seen any boots sun products on the shelf though. Question
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I heard it is really good too, and was really excited that boots's coming to canada. but I have not seen any boots sun products on the shelf though. Question


Maybe one or two of the ingredients aren't allowed under the regulations over there?
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