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Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:27 pm      Reply with quote
what are the diffrent brands of stable or good vitamin c serums and the pros and cons versus diy l-ascorbic acid in terms of price, skin bioavalaibility, skin type & tolerance.. you name it.

I'm much obligued to you for the ins and outs of this topic matter.

PS: can we posibly cover all the relevant info in just one topic so we all can lookup easily, and thus ease trouble especially for members who are overwhelmed by the yielded results of their search. hmm
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Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:28 pm      Reply with quote
Hi, bciw

I'd like to start off by clearing up what I think is a misconception. Not all DIY topical vitamin C preparations are solely L-Ascorbic Acid, which is the most unstable form of vit. C. The more stable forms of vitamin C, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (MAP) and Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, are also now available to DIYers. All three of these are very bioavailable.

L-Ascorbic Acid, mixed with distilled water, starts to degrade quite quickly so it doesn't store well. I use a fresh mix of this each morning while still in the shower and pat it all over. Put too much L-Ascorbic Acid and too little water and you're gonna dance! Laughing

My favorite of all purchased topical Vitamin C serums is Candessence's Ultra Triple C Serum, which has all three of the forms of vitamin C that I mentioned. It keeps very well and gives my skin a glow of health unlike any other topical C I've used.

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:30 am      Reply with quote
bciw wrote:
what are the diffrent brands of stable or good vitamin c serums and the pros and cons versus diy l-ascorbic acid in terms of price, skin bioavalaibility, skin type & tolerance.. you name it.

I'm much obligued to you for the ins and outs of this topic matter.

PS: can we posibly cover all the relevant info in just one topic so we all can lookup easily, and thus ease trouble especially for members who are overwhelmed by the yielded results of their search. hmm


EDS has quite a large list of product lines, many of which contain a Vitamin C product. On the front page of EDS, there is a search field and if you put in something like Vitamin C then you should receive a list of all the Vit C products. Many of the products list ingredients and the suitability to different skin types. There are also links to forum reviews and discussion. I think you should do a little investigation yourself on the products available as 100 forum members would name 100 different products as their favourite.
I would also say that you should probably become more familiar with the types of Vit C available before going the DIY route or products like Candessence as DIY is truly going into untested product territory. The reason why commercial manufacturers of product lines including Vit C cost more is partly due to conforming to regulations , ensuring quality control of products, product testing and control over ingredient mix and preparation.

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The more stable forms of vitamin C, Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate (MAP) and Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate, are also now available to DIYers. All three of these are very bioavailable


I heard that these are less potent, cos the skin can only convert a limited amount to a usable form for absorption. so are these the vitamin C derivatives that come encapsulated or else in order to make them stable?
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and it confuses me more, the fact that the terms ascorbic powder and crystal are used interchangeably. some say, (maybe it was all in my mind) they take a pinch of crystals and mix it with water right in their hands so it is applied fresh each time. wao! but i think they probably meant a form of vit c powder, to be mixed like that and not the pure l-ascorbic acid powder or crystals from the healthfood shop right? anyone, please enlighten me in layman terms.
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Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:45 am      Reply with quote
bciw, I know nothing about DIY Vit C but you may find the answers to your questions in the DIY forum section rather than here.

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Hi, bciw

It can be a bit confusing. There is a discussion on this going on now on the "55 and Over Skin Care Issues" Thread.

Ari


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and it confuses me more, the fact that the terms ascorbic powder and crystal are used interchangeably. some say, (maybe it was all in my mind) they take a pinch of crystals and mix it with water right in their hands so it is applied fresh each time. wao! but i think they probably meant a form of vit c powder, to be mixed like that and not the pure l-ascorbic acid powder or crystals from the healthfood shop right? anyone, please enlighten me in layman terms.

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