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Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:43 pm      Reply with quote
If making the vitamin c serum with glycerine - is there a way to stop the stickiness? add more water?
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Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:41 pm      Reply with quote
Use propylene glycol instead of glycerine. 8-) I just read the recipe for C serum in the recipe section here.
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Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:40 am      Reply with quote
Thank you for recommending the propylene glycol.

Does anyone know if you can add the ascobic acid and distilled water to a carrier oil?
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:33 am      Reply with quote
You can only do that successfully if you include an emulsifier to the oil and water mix you are contemplating.

Examples of some DIY emulsifiers are lecithin, polysorbates (20, 60, 65, 80), glyceryl cocoate, emulsifying wax NF, etc. etc. etc.

With L-Ascorbic Acid, I recommend you stick with the cold process emulsifiers i.e. the Polysorbates and glyceryl cocoate.

But I am sure the very many EDS bright sparks can think of many many more emulsifiers for you.
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:43 am      Reply with quote
Can you recommend any more emulsifiers for my vitamin c serum and possibilty one I can purchase at a whole food store?
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:57 am      Reply with quote
I'm afraid I don't do the whole food store thing at all, but Sepiplus 400 seems like a sleek and elegant cold process emulsifier for beginners:
http://www.bulkactives.com/gelmakerplus.htm
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:46 am      Reply with quote
I am going to try the Lecithin. Will see if it works!

Thanks! I love experiementing!
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:23 pm      Reply with quote
I bought liquid lecithin and my serum is cloudy - is there a way to get rid of the clouds??????????
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:24 pm      Reply with quote
Oh my goodness gracious me.

All emulsions are naturally cloudy (think mayonnaise, and early science experiments in high school). It does not in anyway detract from the activity of your potion.

You cannot join oil and water together and achieve a clear potion, unless you buy and add another chemical specifically for the purpose of clarifying the potion. This chemical will add nothing in terms of activity.

If potion clarity is of critical aesthetic importance to you, then don't go to the trouble of creating emulsions. Layer the carrier oil over your ascorbic acid solution.
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Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:42 pm      Reply with quote
Thank you so much for "clearing" this up for me. Very Happy

I have used the "cloudy" version for two days and all seems okay!

I am a beginner and trying my best to feel my way through....

Thanks again for your help!
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Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:57 am      Reply with quote
Don't mention it! BTW lecithin was actually a very good choice - while it doesn't make "pretty-looking" emulsions in and of itself, it adds great moisturising activity to your potion - plumps up your skin cell membranes or so I am told.

I always use lecithin in my emulsion potions, mixed with other emulsifiers such as a Polysorbate, or Emulsifying Wax NF, more for its moisturising activity than anything else.
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