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Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:17 am |
So far nothing at all has changed, but I am diluting it well because it seems a bit harsh for my skin. I'm using it morning and night so we will see. I'll give it a week and then go back to my Obagi gentle. My scalp is loving it though. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:53 pm |
So curiousity got the best of me and I bought some Nizoral. I tried it this morning in the shower and it really irritated my skin. My skin was really red and burned after I washed it off. I only used a little bit and mixed it with water. I don't believe I will be trying it again. I wish everyone else luck with it though. |
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Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:19 am |
Does anyone have experience w/ Garden of Wisdom? Some of their finished products look nice. |
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Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:51 pm |
When using Nizoral for rosacea, wet the affected areas (rosacea) with warm water, put a drop or two of Nizoral shampoo (straight, not diluted) on the dampened areas and massage until it foams up...leave on about 3-5 minutes and rinse thoroughly with cool water. For the first two or three treatments the skin may seem worse (redder, drier) but this will resolve. I think the dryness seen after the first few treatments is the fungus damaged skin being shed.
Remember, the Nizoral is used to kill the fungus causing rosacea, so give it a few treatments to work! If the Nizoral seems too strong for your skin, don't do daily treatments and try every other day or biweekly treatments instead. It does work. |
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Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:45 am |
I had the exact same experience as cathy_jean, except for me the product that worked was Metrogel. I still keep a tube on hand in case there is a flare up, but I haven't needed to use it for a while.
I also saw marked improvement when using Dr. Irene Eris's Eris Cleansing Lotion Arnica Flower for Dilated Capillaries. EDS doesn't have it in stock right now, but when they get more in, I will definitely be reordering. This cleansing lotion also worked great on my chest below my collar bones where I was developing some broken caps and redness.
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For me, using prescription Noritate cream made the biggest difference in my rosacea. After I was diagnosed with mild rosacea, I used it faithfully for years.
Now, with my rosacea pretty much fully under control, I seldom use the Noritate.
Everyone's individual triggers are different. I have found that exfoliation and over cleansing are what I need to be careful with. I exfoliate using Epidermix II and also with my Clarisonic, but I can't overdo it or I will trigger a mild flare (which the Noritate brings under control). |
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_________________ Best, Jeannine (40s, fair skin, hazel eyes, sensitive skin). To fight the dread lemming sickness, I promise not to rave about a product until I have used it for a long while. |
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Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:53 am |
Jeannine wrote: |
I also saw marked improvement when using Dr. Irene Eris's Eris Cleansing Lotion Arnica Flower for Dilated Capillaries. EDS doesn't have it in stock right now, but when they get more in, I will definitely be reordering. This cleansing lotion also worked great on my chest below my collar bones where I was developing some broken caps and redness.
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Hi there. Did the improvement stick around when you had stopped using the product, Jeannine?
I have some broken caps on one side ofmy nose that I would LOVE to get rid of... |
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Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:30 pm |
Interesting. I wonder if arnica gel (available at most drugstores and/or healthfood stores) would do as well....I bet it would, and at less expense. |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:03 pm |
AnnieR are you still using the Nizoral? If so have you seen any improvement? |
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:42 am |
I have been using the Nizoral for almost one month now together with my rx for metrocream and I am continuing to see results. No more bumps, redness continues to decrease slightly, and the peeling on my nose has greatly subsided. I use it once a day in the morning. |
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:02 pm |
stovetop wrote: |
I have been using the Nizoral for almost one month now together with my rx for metrocream and I am continuing to see results. No more bumps, redness continues to decrease slightly, and the peeling on my nose has greatly subsided. I use it once a day in the morning. |
Thanks stovetop. Did you experience irritation when you first started using it? |
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:39 am |
Broken_Princess - There was some irritation. It is now 4 weeks and I am using it daily now - but only for 30 - 45 seconds. Initially, I started every other day and then only on specific spots. I am peeling considerably now and the new skin is much clearer. I have also noticed my pore size decrease but additionally I have also been using cellbone's Vitamin C with 10% glycolic for approximately 6 weeks now. Perhaps a combo result? |
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:20 pm |
I should have mentioned this in my first post about Nizoral. My apologies for the omission. Yes, you will indeed have irritation when first using Nizoral on rosacea areas. You see, rosacea (i.e. the fungus causing the rosacea) has already damaged your skin. While Nizoral kills that fungus upon application, the fungus has already done damage to some layers of the skin. After starting Nizoral, you will get peeling and increased redness, but only for a short while, as the previously damaged skin is shed. The new skin beneath the damaged layers will be smooth and healthy, and not red nor irritated. Have patience, keep up with the Nizoral treatments, and most people should see a dramatic improvement. But yes, do expect about a week of increased peeling and redness as part of the deal! If your skin remains red and irritated beyond a week of Nizoral, perhaps it isn't the right treatment for your skin.
Nizoral has been a godsend for me, though!
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:54 pm |
Thank you both. I'm trying to get up the courage to use the Nizoral again. I just hate the idea of my skin being irritated. Wish me luck! |
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Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:51 pm |
What about using an anti-fungal cream instead of Nizoral? Would that be just as effective? And then you could wear it longer (overnight). |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:55 am |
Broken Princess-I stopped using the Nizoral, just too irritating for me. I really have to keep my skin more hydrated and this seems to dry me out, but I have REALLY sensitive skin so it doesn't surprise me me. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:10 am |
Could I get some feedback- what is the best type of laser treatment for the beginning stages of rosacea with flushing? Is it IPL? What is a good product to keep pigmentation away that does not contain Vit C? (This seems to aggravate it.) |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:34 pm |
IPL is the only laser procedure I know of for specifically targeting rosacea.
DHC Platinum Silver Nanocolloid Cream is wonderful for my rosacea skin and keeps the flushing down for me and the pigmentation even. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:11 pm |
Thanks Annie-
Where do you get the DHC cream please? |
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Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:51 pm |
http://www.dhccare.com/dhc/
I love it. |
_________________ Joined the 50 club several years back, blonde w/ fair/sensitive skin, Texas humidity and prone to rosacea, light breakouts and sunburns, combo skin type, starting to see sundamage and fine lines |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:15 pm |
AnnieR thanks for updating. I never tried the Nizoral again. I just knew it would be too irritating & drying for my skin. My skin is already dry enough as it. Thanks for the rec on the DHC cream. I'll look into it.
I've been testing a new product this week: Hope's Relief Cream. I'm not sure if it's helping or not. I'll give it some more time. I've heard good reviews so I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:23 pm |
Annie:
Thank you- DHC does not ship to Canada (where I live) but I order a sample kit of this line from ebay and I'm looking forward to trying it. It's nice that it is a reasonable price as well.
I'm thinking about doing IPL treatments. Any difference that you know of between cold laser and IPL? Gosh, it's so hard to know who is good here and who is not. I don't know anyone here that has had this done. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:02 pm |
Hi Broken Princess,
There are many topical products, yet none will completely reduce or "cure" rosacea.
I too was diagnosed 8 years ago and basically told I would NEVER have clear skin again. I watched the problem get worse..regardless of the products, such as if you stop using a product yoru skin evenually resorts to its red, rosaea like state.
I recomend going to a holistic practitioner who specializes in skin, like a Naturopathic doctor.
I did a LOT of cleansing, diet modifications, etc and my skin is 90% clear..minus the yearly freak out, but that because I have eat things that I have sensitivities too.
Rosacea can also be strictly a topical problem, if you are continually exposed to extreme temperature's, wind, etc..like a sailor. There is also genetic predisposition...that would be me!
If you find you start getting acne or little pimples I HIGHLY recommend IS Clincial Proheal serum...it is my HG for keeping my skin under control on a topical level.
Apologies this is long, just wanted you to know that its good to look into internal issues as well. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:22 pm |
Feliz wrote: |
Hi Broken Princess,
There are many topical products, yet none will completely reduce or "cure" rosacea.
I too was diagnosed 8 years ago and basically told I would NEVER have clear skin again. I watched the problem get worse..regardless of the products, such as if you stop using a product yoru skin evenually resorts to its red, rosaea like state.
I recomend going to a holistic practitioner who specializes in skin, like a Naturopathic doctor.
I did a LOT of cleansing, diet modifications, etc and my skin is 90% clear..minus the yearly freak out, but that because I have eat things that I have sensitivities too.
Rosacea can also be strictly a topical problem, if you are continually exposed to extreme temperature's, wind, etc..like a sailor. There is also genetic predisposition...that would be me!
If you find you start getting acne or little pimples I HIGHLY recommend IS Clincial Proheal serum...it is my HG for keeping my skin under control on a topical level.
Apologies this is long, just wanted you to know that its good to look into internal issues as well. |
Thanks Feliz. I have considered internal issues. I've actually been trying to change my diet by eating less sugar and more fresh fruits and veggies. I have also read reasearch recently that MSM and Silymarin (milk thistle) might benefit rosacea. I'm considering taking these supplements. |
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Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:03 pm |
MSM is a very good anti-inflamatory product, same with Curcumin (extract from tumeric)this also helps the liver.
Rosacea is a very chronic disease that takes a long time to manifest on the skin, and if not attended to can further advance to more acne,etc.
The main issues I have seen with R are related to toxins in the intestines and poor functioning of the liver.
The most effective thing is to do a bowel cleanse, just buy one from the health food store, also Triphalla in capsules would do the trick...its a combo of three Indian herbs that you can use permanently as they cleanse the intestines. Milk Thistle is also a great liver products, but for you the Curcumin is the best. You can also take evening prime rose oil in 4,000mg a day or black current seed oil.
These are things I do on a regular basis and let me tell you how effective they are. Ofcourse I stop for long periods of time,and my body has the tendency for skin disease so in time I start to break out again....stick with what works, and every thing I listed you can use long term.
Dont worry, I have worked with supplements/herbs for a long time, but I also encourage people to do a little of their own research to understand why I recommended these particular items.
Hope this helps. |
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Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:35 am |
I will look into the Curcumin... seems like I've heard of this on the rosacea forums. Again thanks so much for the info. I'm constantly reaserching and learing new things about rosacea. |
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