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Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:57 am  |
I want to buy the 70% kit (from make up artists choice)with the acid reducer but am wondering if the acid reducer is something I can make myself? has anyone ever used this product before?
Dr. Strength Glycolic Full Kit
Included with your kit:
1.01 oz 70% glycolic acid
2 oz pH prep,
2 oz acid reducer
mixing bowl
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:35 am |
I've got this kit and although I haven't used it lately, I like it very much. It looks like it will last forever. I don't mix up quite as much solution per peel as it directs because I had a lot left over the first time.
The ingredients for the acid reducer are listed as water, witch hazel, essential oil of lavender, metylparaben, and propylparaben. |
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32 years old, combination skin, working on lots of age-related changes (fine lines, dull skin, hyperpigmentation) since I hit the big 3-0. Loving the 302 line. |
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:42 am |
thank you for that! I can live without the parabens and dont think they do much to reduce the acid its probably the witch hazel and water diluting the glycolic.....thing is I dont need the prep and would rather just buy 2 bottles of the glycolic for the same price as that kit...but I should get that kit for the first time I suppose for the recipe...otherwise dont know how much witch hazel solution to add to the glycolic to reduce it.....
what percentage do you use on your face?
have you ever used the 70% anywhere (arms etc) |
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:06 am |
I'm not sure of the proportions of water and witch hazel in the acid reducer. You could probably make your own pretty easily but I don't know how to figure out how much water and witch hazel to use to make an acid reducer similar in strength to the one that comes in the kit.
The recipe for how much acid reducer to add to the glycolic acid is pretty simple. Equal amounts of acid + acid reducer cuts the strength of the acid by half to 35%. For higher strength, use less acid reducer; for weaker strength, use more acid reducer. The instructions do come with a chart specifying how many drops of acid + how many drops of acid reducer to make exact strengths from 20% to 70% but this is based on using their included acid reducer. I'll be glad to give you those numbers if you want to try and make your own reducer but they will only be accurate if you can make a reducer the same strength as their's.
I've only used this on my face in strengths of 20% - 35%, never tried it any stronger than that anywhere. I may try it stronger on my hands though, they're looking pretty rough lately.  |
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32 years old, combination skin, working on lots of age-related changes (fine lines, dull skin, hyperpigmentation) since I hit the big 3-0. Loving the 302 line. |
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:46 pm |
| I noticed on the instruction sheet that the glycolic acid solution itself has water in it so I would think that the proportions of water to witch hazel in the reducer probably aren't that important after all. I'd had the idea that adding straight water to glycolic acid somehow renders it ineffective but apparently that's not the case since the acid solution itself contains purified water as the second ingredient. You could probably just use water alone as a reducer but I'm not sure. |
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32 years old, combination skin, working on lots of age-related changes (fine lines, dull skin, hyperpigmentation) since I hit the big 3-0. Loving the 302 line. |
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:18 pm |
wow water in the mix...I didnt realise....Yeah I was thinking whichever acid reducer I cook up it wont be accurate anyway...
I will buy the kit ...at least at first....did you see the 2 bottles of 70 % are cheaper than the kit....
I want to use the stronger percentage for my paws which look so crappy! and my arms...want to get it done before summer so that I can repeat the process and keep my hands and arms covered to lessen sensitivity from the sun....
thank you for all that info!!!!
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Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:39 pm |
My question to you is what is the ph of the 70% glycolic? Ph is one of the most important things. You can have a 70% glycolic and have it be a ph of 4.0% and a 35% glycolic and a ph of 2.5% and the 35% is a lot stronger. Also, anything below 1.0% ph should be done by a doctor, I am not even legally allowed to do it being an Aesthetician. You can really burn yourself.
The preps and acid reducers are VERY necessary. They are both alkaline to prepare the skin for an acid and then once you are done peeling balancing the skin back to the correct ph for the skin. If not used the ph is off and can either make you break out, or dry out your skin. I always recommend using a hydrating calming mask after a peel, even if you are oily. It helps lock water in the skin, not oil. Water neutralizes glycolic, that is why it is in the acid reducer. How I like to peels is use the prep, glycolic peel, cotton pads with water to neutralize, acid reducer to balance.
You can use glycolic on the body, but make sure you use sun protection daily, even on the face sun screen is absolutely necessary. Glycolic dissolves 3 layers of dead skin cells. Also, darker skin, should NOT use glycolic at all. You can hyperpigment the skin. It’s best on people with fairer skin.
Also, after 6 months, glycolic peels loose their strength. So it won’t last forever. |
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Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:08 pm |
thank you TheSkinGirl82
thats great info!
I want the higher % for my body...I use 30% on my face and only a few minutes (once a week)
Whats the highest percentage you can go on your face and is there a way to do a deeper peel that takes a week to recover from using glycolic acid? I seem to remember having one here in tokyo (and it wasnt TCA) and it peeled for about 5 days and then the skin look great!.....was in glycolic and what would the percentage have been? |
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Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:03 pm |
| 70% is it too strong? |
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Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:40 pm |
Well like said in my other post it all depends on the ph of the glycolic peel. The lower the ph the stronger it will be. Anything that would take a week to recover from I would recommend seeing a medical Aesthetician at a Doctors office or having a doctor do it.
As a licensed Aesthetician I can’t even buy a 70% glycolic peel. A medical Aesthetician can’t even do it. It HAS to be done by a doctor. So my guess would be that is this particular product is VERY buffered. |
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