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dleonard
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Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:39 am      Reply with quote
any reviews on dermal fx?? it's new at the shopping channel and claims to remove wrinkles
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:07 am      Reply with quote
Hi, I have been using the day/night cream and eye serum for a few months now. I really like it, esp. notice my skin looks more plump. I just re-ordered some (which is a feat for me, as I love to try new products , never stick with one line too long, lol!)
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Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:40 am      Reply with quote
How old are you?? I'm 46 yers old. they also have other products on their website.
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:23 pm      Reply with quote
Mid 30's. Very Happy
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Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:15 pm      Reply with quote
Their products contain nanoparticles and this really concerns me.

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Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:47 am      Reply with quote
Antonia wrote:
Their products contain nanoparticles and this really concerns me.


Can you share your concerns on the nanoparticles?
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:54 am      Reply with quote
Hi Lipglossdoll,

How long have you used these products, and have u noticed any firming, or lessening of wrinkles? I assume you are happy with them - to buy them again Very Happy, but I would love to hear any more you could say on them. thanks
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:57 am      Reply with quote
Hello Rileygirl, There is a lot of concern in the scientific community about nanoparticles in sunscreens and other cosmetics. The issue is, they are incredibly tiny at 1/10,000 mm, and can travel through various membranes in the body. This means that they can penetrate to the dermis and beyond. It is the "beyond" that is troubling. If you Google nanoparticles cosmetics, you will come up with a few hits where the concerns are well covered. For example, this one on titanium dioxide nanos in sunscreens:

Washington, Nov 17 (ANI): Researchers have found that nanoparticles found in everything from cosmetics to sunscreen to paint to vitamins can cause genetic damage, which increase the risk for cancer.

The study conducted on mice showed that Titanium dioxide (TiO2) nanoparticles triggered single- and double-strand DNA breaks, causing chromosomal damage as well as inflammation.

The University of California Los Angeles study is the first to show that the nanoparticles had such an effect, said Robert Schiestl, a professor of pathology, radiation oncology and environmental health sciences, a Jonsson Cancer Centre scientist and the study’s senior author.

The TiO2 nanoparticles accumulate in different organs because the body has no way to eliminate them.

And because they are so small, they can go everywhere in the body, even through cells, and may interfere with sub-cellular mechanisms.

“The novel principle is that titanium by itself is chemically inert. However, when the particles become progressively smaller, their surface, in turn, becomes progressively bigger and in the interaction of this surface with the environment oxidative stress is induced,” he said.

“This is the first comprehensive study of titanium dioxide nanoparticle-induced genotoxicity, possibly caused by a secondary mechanism associated with inflammation and/or oxidative stress.

“Given the growing use of these nanoparticles, these findings raise concern about potential health hazards associated with exposure,” he added.

These nanoparticles can also be found in toothpaste, food colorants, nutritional supplements and hundreds of other personal care products.



More at : Nanoparticles in common cosmetics, paints may cause genetic damage http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/nanoparticles-in-common-cosmetics-paints-may-cause-genetic-damage_100275973.html#ixzz0gYWVpsFf

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Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:02 am      Reply with quote
Thanks, Antonia. Yes, I have seen that information and I am leery of the nanoparticles, as well. I wasn't sure if there had been any new findings on the subject or not.
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:06 am      Reply with quote
Nothing new as far as I can see... of all the trends, I think that of nanoparticles is the most dangerous. There are many ways to effect deeper penetration of products, as you know. I prefer the mechanical torture way with the dermarolling.

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Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:08 am      Reply with quote
Antonia wrote:
There are many ways to effect deeper penetration of products, as you know. I prefer the mechanical torture way with the dermarolling.


And even that we are not sure is "safe" depending on what one is rolling in!
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Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:12 am      Reply with quote
That's true. Rolling in parabens, TEA etc. is likely not a good idea.

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Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:04 pm      Reply with quote
Hi all Smile
I see its been awhile since this product has been discussed & I'm not surprised as unfortunately its not lived up to its hype.
I purchased a bundle pack containing cleanser, toner & moisturiser. I used all three until they ran out. (It lasted about 4 months.)
PROS
The products smell gorgeous and are silky smooth.
My pores tightened.
My face became even toned & had pearly lustre.

CONS
The last two pros were temporary at best. I've gotten similar results from Vit C & Retin A.
Its done nothing for any lines or wrinkles. Derma rolling has done more & is heaps cheaper.
It's so hyped to work like restylane injections but fails completely in my view.

If its worked for others ... great. Personally I'd recommend derma rolling or save for proper restylane injections.

Cheers Harlo Smile
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